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Marvel Cinematic Universe |OT2| Discussion on released and future projects (spoilers)
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On Infinity War I & II:
Avengers: Infinity War Parts 1 and 2 Will Be Very Different Movies
I had assumed it was a true part one and two story. I'm really interested in seeing what those movies are going to be about.
Avengers: Infinity War Parts 1 and 2 Will Be Very Different Movies
I had assumed it was a true part one and two story. I'm really interested in seeing what those movies are going to be about.
I remember them saying something like that before - that it wasn't a single movie they split in half, but two completely separate movies that, in the end, tell one complete story. They weren't conceptualized as "Infinity War I and II."
Which pushes me to think that Part I is, in fact, Thanos Quest with appearances by Thor and the Guardians and a few others. It being titled "Avengers" is just an easy way to market it.
Which pushes me to think that Part I is, in fact, Thanos Quest with appearances by Thor and the Guardians and a few others. It being titled "Avengers" is just an easy way to market it.
http://collider.com/black-panther-movie-ryan-coogler-script-filming-dates/
Kevin Feige has confirmed that Ryan Coogler is co-writing the Black Panther screenplay.
Kevin Feige has confirmed that Ryan Coogler is co-writing the Black Panther screenplay.
Beginning of next year is when filming begins. Nice!
XiaNaphryz
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From that article:
Hmmm...that quote alone may be thread-worthy, lol. Someone go make it. ;P
I was going to point that out when I posted the article but I remember that whole "infinity war has like, 67 characters" thing and figured it had been talked about enough.
Final count is likely 20-30
Probably a better place to post this:
'Inhumans' is still happening, just not for 2019
So maybe Infinity War pt. 2 will stay as their last Phase 3 film after all?
'Inhumans' is still happening, just not for 2019
So maybe Infinity War pt. 2 will stay as their last Phase 3 film after all?
Yeah, people took that comment literally which brought about a ton of random speculation.
It's always fun to make a list and try to guess what the shot is going to look tho (you know what I'm talking about).
With rumors that the Guardians are getting bigger (Nebula, Yondu, etc.) it's still going to be a pretty large number I think.
Even this "number" is just a rough guess on their part. It's kinda non-news to me.
"The Russos reveal how many characters will be in Infinity War. You won't believe how large the cast is. Click Here"
Feige, don't you mess with my Captain Marvel movie any more.
It's safe, casting and director should be set this year.
BrokenFiction
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Captain Marvel Director Announcement Soon, Black Widow Movie Still A Possibility
(The Civil War press junket producing lots of gems)
(The Civil War press junket producing lots of gems)
YES!
I mean, I don't buy that they'll ever make a BW movie, but at least it seems as if they're not going to push back Captain Marvel any further.
Phase 4. Black Widow confronting her past and taking down the organization that created her.
Despite the Captain Marvel movie sounding like an origin story, I really hope she shows up in Infinity War I if not sooner. I don't care if they go back and fill in the blanks of how she became CM with the solo flick but I just don't want to wait another three years for her to show up. I know Marvel generally doesn't go backwards and do origins after the fact but 2019 seems so far away.
I don't buy it, especially not after Feige's previous comments. If they didn't make one after Lucy grossed $460m they're not going to make one in four or five years. He's all about dodging the critical questions.
They should've asked him about the lack of female superheroes in MCU instead.
I wouldn't be surprised if she only gets her powers as a side effect (or consequence/result) of Thanos wrecking shit on Earth. I doubt they'll go the Kree route. That said, there's this blonde actress cast for GotG 2 that's unaccounted for, no?
I thought someone was on record somewhere saying no Captain Marvel in GotG2.
They currently have Scarlet Witch, Wasp, Gamora and Black Widow in the universe. With Thor 3, Guardians 2, Black Panther and possibly Spider-man adding more.
I don't see it lacking currently.
Gunn himself.
BrokenFiction
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http://io9.gizmodo.com/avengers-infinity-war-parts-1-and-2-will-be-very-diffe-1770201271
Most of the same stuff we've already read, but Feige confims a Guardians 3 in Phase 4 somewhere.
Most of the same stuff we've already read, but Feige confims a Guardians 3 in Phase 4 somewhere.
I knew it sounded familiar. I think I remember that now.
Gamora and Black Widow are hardly superheroes, Wasp hasn't even appeared on-screen yet. I mean, if that is your standard, might as well bring up Agent 13. Come on.
So Agent 13 is a superhero? Okay, I guess Black Widow has the whole manipulated/trained thing going for her. Technically Gamora as well. Sure. No indication on the screen, but I guess we can pretend that counts to feel better?
And why the hell does Gamora randomly not count?
Like, I know we certainly need more female superheroes. But just randomly saying certain Avengers (Black Widow/Scarlett Witch) dont count, or Gamora doesnt count when you are happy to consider Drax, Rocket and Hawkeye as part of the "Sausage fest" is just being straight up dishonest.
Like, I know we certainly need more female superheroes. But just randomly saying certain Avengers (Black Widow/Scarlett Witch) dont count, or Gamora doesnt count when you are happy to consider Drax, Rocket and Hawkeye as part of the "Sausage fest" is just being straight up dishonest.
I dont talk about Agent 13, she is not really a character, more someone who stood around and aimed with a weapon, but you said that Black Widows isnt a superhero and thats what I dont understand.
What? Where did I say anything about Drax, Rocket or Hawkeye? Where did I say Scarlet Witch isn't a superhero? This is just sad.
Why? She can shoot, seems to kick Bucky in one of the trailers and is Team Iron Man. Heck, she's even going to Jimmy Kimmel with the rest. That seems to be more than sufficient for many.
Gamora is mechanically modified and daughter of Thanos, Black Widow is a highly trained assassin. Both have been in battles punching Way above their weight class! I think that should count! Wasp #1 we see in action, before being trapped into the micro-verse, and the tease at the end while also being in the title of the sequel should also count!
Also Sif.....!
I mean, the general definition on Wikipedia is incredibly broad.
The problem is when we actually look at the characters. I feel like people are too lenient when it comes to MCU. If we only look at Civil War (judging from the trailers):
Superpowers:
Captain America, Vision, Scarlet Witch, Spider-Man
Super Suit:
Black Panther*, Ant-Man, Iron Man, War Machine
*Probably also has superpowers?
Trained really hard:
Black Widow, Hawkeye, Agent 13*
*I mean, she probably counts as well?
Looking at the other movies doesn't really paint a better picture. I know I'm a dick in this regard, but the current state in MCU is just sad. There's one woman with superpowers, an assassin (that never shows any signs of those modifications they talk about), a spy/assassin, a warrior (that never shows much), a queen (that is dead anyway), a superhero in limbo (that's probably really old by now) and a woman that temporarily had superpowers.
I'm not saying this to seriously weigh in on this but I've never thought of Batman as a superhero either. He and Stark are just rich, smart guys.
Women are clearly underrepresented in all comic movies, but suggesting that Black Widow is not a superhero is just being obtuse. Noone's going to argue that Batman isn't a superhero, or Green Arrow, or Hawkeye, or the fuckton of other no-powered superheroes that rely on nothing but training, experience, and gadgets.
In the MCU, Widow has already shown that she is capable of feats far beyond a normal person, and has used quite a few gadgets, such as the grapplehook, her stings, the electrified batons, etc. Hell, she even got to show her greatest ability when she out-tricked the trickster god.
I definitely agree that the MCU needs more women superheros. So far there's really only been Widow, Gamora, and Lady Sif. If you include TV offerings, it gets a little better, with Jessica Jones, Mockingbird, Elektra, and Quake. Fortunately, already confirmed in the movies, we have Mantis, Wasp, and Captain Marvel. By the time Infinity War rolls around, we might have a dozen or so, which would be nice.
DAMNIT CURB! I JUST said that noone's going to argue that Batman isn't a superhero! Why do you have to do this to me??
In the MCU, Widow has already shown that she is capable of feats far beyond a normal person, and has used quite a few gadgets, such as the grapplehook, her stings, the electrified batons, etc. Hell, she even got to show her greatest ability when she out-tricked the trickster god.
I definitely agree that the MCU needs more women superheros. So far there's really only been Widow, Gamora, and Lady Sif. If you include TV offerings, it gets a little better, with Jessica Jones, Mockingbird, Elektra, and Quake. Fortunately, already confirmed in the movies, we have Mantis, Wasp, and Captain Marvel. By the time Infinity War rolls around, we might have a dozen or so, which would be nice.
DAMNIT CURB! I JUST said that noone's going to argue that Batman isn't a superhero! Why do you have to do this to me??
He also has a secret identity, is a billionaire and genius, has a shark repellent spray, a batmobile, (depending on the problem) a supersuit and if the writer wants it due to prep time a solution to everything. He also fights crime on a daily basis? Anyway, emphasis on the shark repellent spray.
GuitarAtomik
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I get what El Topo is saying. When you count agents of SHIELD like Black Widow or Hawkeye as superheroes, you kind of also have to include just about every field agent in SHIELD as one. May in Agents of SHIELD is technically a superhero by this definition (as well as Agent 13). It's kind of a murky area that I don't really care about though since it's largely semantic. They are heroes and that's all that really matters.
I gotta say even with movie bloat, I wish Wasp was in Civil War just to have some more female representation.
Here's the Logo for Cloak and Dagger. I'm really excited for this series becuase while I love marvel TV, I feel they've been missing an overt superhero show in the vein of Flash or Spergirl.
Here's the Logo for Cloak and Dagger. I'm really excited for this series becuase while I love marvel TV, I feel they've been missing an overt superhero show in the vein of Flash or Spergirl.
This issue is that Widow and Hawkeye aren't your typical agents. They have skillsets far above and beyond anyone else. Hawkeye's accuracy is, without a doubt, superhuman, even though it's explained by nothing more than a natural ability which has been trained and honed to perfection. Widow, likewise, is not the typical Red Room graduate. She went through the same training as all of the other little russian girls, but she had natural abilities and traits that put her far above any of them.
Superheroes don't need superpowers.
Superheroes don't need superpowers.
Father_Brain
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Because they can only do so many films a year and the espionage angle of the MCU has already been pretty well explored.
More_Badass
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Take Salt, set it in the MCU, swap out Jolie for Johansson (or a Widow/Hawkeye team-up)...there's your Black Widow movie
Salt was the first thing I thought of at the suggestion of espionage being well represented in the MCU. Winter Soldier has some elements of that genre but I don't think they've gone out with that type of story yet.
Pai Pai Master
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this. they partially went for the militarized/SHIELD-based Avengers in this universe, so seeing Widow do her thing isn't really something that would be new compared to what they're going for instead.
Now, gimme a Secret Avengers movie, make ScarJo the team lead, I'm down for that. They could do much weirder and interesting things there.
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