Unspeakable Evil
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Pretty sure he's over seeing all of them.
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Marvel going street level w/ Netflix (Daredevil, Jessica Jones, Luke Cage, Iron Fist)
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GuitarAtomik
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Awesome. According to him they'll be filming in this order: Daredevil > Jessica Jones > Iron Fist > Luke Cage > Defenders (last obviously). Really curious what the release plan is exactly. Specifically how long between each show. Are we looking at 2 1/2 years of shows, less, or more like 4-5 years spread out?
He's the head of Marvel Television, so unfortunately, yes.
BlackNMild2k1
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Let's hope he consults with Feige regarding casting and scripts, as some of these people (actors & characters) may end up in the movies at some point, so only 1 person should be at the top of the MCU pyramid calling the shots.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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Suddenly Agents of SHIELD makes so much sense
George Oscar Bluth II
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Parallax
best seen in the classic "Shadow of the Beast"
Father_Brain
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I suspect that a lot (though certainly not all) of SHIELD's problems come from outside Marvel Television. ABC may well have mandated certain aspects of the premise and structure in a poorly calculated attempt to broaden the show's audience, and it's been clear since shortly after the show's premiere that Marvel Studios imposed some fairly draconian constraints on the showrunners, not just regarding the use of specific Marvel characters but with entire categories of story ideas being put off-limits.
Loeb or not, the Netflix shows will star actual superheroes, they won't have to worry about Nielsens, and they won't be tied to the MCU film canon by more than the occasional cameo/reference and will thus be much freer to do their own thing, so they're at least starting off from a much better position creatively than SHIELD did.
Funky Papa
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I wonder how bad the Daredevil costume will be.
Rafa=FedKilla
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Left over material from Deathlok's costume.
Razgriz-Specter
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AoS really feels like a show suffering from the old Bat-Embargo style restrictions.
anything remotely interesting with a 1% chance of happening in the movies is saved exclusively for them.
while AoS gets bottom of the barrel scraps and the only reason we got Sif was because they know she is being absolutely wasted in the movies but can't do much else with her.
victreeb3l
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Yes. Please.
comedy bomb
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I'm hoping the Deathlok costume will get better with time.
But it probably won't.
BlackNMild2k1
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Well, if it's any consolation, the 2nd half is much better, specifically the last 2-4 episodes.
I guess they are kinda kicking themselves for blowing so much budget on the first half, the mediocre half of the season to set up the "Uprising" arc that ties in with Cap 2.
It kinda feels like "uprising" was the plan all along, but since they wanted to launch in the fall, they had to figure out how to stall until March. That would explain the Thor 2 tie in with Zero actual tie in, and the slow build up to the arc we are now currently in.
We can only hope that with no need to tie into the movies as they are happening, the 2nd season will not have as many issues.
And hopefully the Netflix shows will exist in their own bubble (initially) that just allows them to do what they need to do to tell their story the way they need to before being folded over in to the larger MCU.
Funky Papa
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There's no other way, specially now that Idris Elba has been wasted as Heimdall.
Fucking Kenneth Branagh and his stupid ass castings.
victreeb3l
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Elba would have been a great Black Panther.
But nope hes relegated to having 2 lines per movie as Heimdall. What a waste
So would Djimon Honsou but hes already been cast as Korath for GOTG
Father_Brain
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Mostly my thoughts as well. Though I wouldn't say that the second half has been that big an improvement just yet, outside episodes 12 and 13, and they could have done much more of an actual TDW tie-in without any impact on the pace of the buildup to the back nine.
I really think this show could benefit from a 13-episode season, frankly.
Extra Sauce
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FourMyle said:
Pretty sure he is.
Thanks Marvel-GAF for mitigating my horrifying realization with a nice dose of laughter.
fallengorn
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Eh... The universe is so large, there's plenty of interesting nuggets that the show can use despite having certain characters and entities being off limits. (Can't use Hydra or AIM? What about the Secret Empire?)
I think ABC/Disney just wanted a Marvel show and they just rushed this idea. The first half seemed like they were creating the show bible as they were making the episodes. There were a few interesting ideas but the writing was terrible.
Loeb saying that the beginning of the show is a slow burn is retarded, but I can see him covering for ABC mandating for more stand-alone episodes upfront. That's not an uncommon pattern on network TV.
CreeperBlocks
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That seems fine to me
Black-Wind
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Isaiah Mustafa has made it known that he wants to be Luke.
And anyway I'm sure Idris can wiggle his way out of Thor and into another movie. If the characters look different enough then I doubt viewers are gonna care that a dude who is seen for like 1-2% of the Thor movies is the same actor who plays BP (or any other Black Male people think Marvel could make a movie about ... I really can't think of any others :/)
Funky Papa
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I think he's waaaay sweet faced to play Luke, TBH.
AoS was never going to be anything special with 20+ episode seasons on ABC. The only reason Agent Carter has a chance is because it's not only a 13 episode mini-series but a period piece that doesn't rely on current Marvel heroes.
I don't carry the Loeb baggage so I'll be looking to see Marvel step their game up on Netflix.
I don't carry the Loeb baggage so I'll be looking to see Marvel step their game up on Netflix.
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MHWilliams
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A show like AoS really needs to hinge on the cast, and AoS's cast isn't all that great.
But it's a semi-Whedon show and Whedon isn't afraid to cut what doesn't work heading into the second season. And AoS will get a second season.
Extra Sauce
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Wow didn't know that:
1- Glenn Howerton was in this.
2- There will be more self-contained seasons of Fargo if the show is successful.
Great news indeed.
edit: lol wrong thread... sorry for any false hopes of Dennis Reynolds as Daredevil.
1- Glenn Howerton was in this.
2- There will be more self-contained seasons of Fargo if the show is successful.
Great news indeed.
edit: lol wrong thread... sorry for any false hopes of Dennis Reynolds as Daredevil.
Funky Papa
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I actually like Michael C. Hall, but the last couple of seasons of Dexter soured me really bad.
This, too.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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Source?
Father_Brain
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Maybe closer to 10, but yeah, I can't see Marvel casting above the early 30s for most of the Netflix leads. I can see them going a bit older with Cage, though.
Pai Pai Master
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I would be totally fine with that. He would actually make a pretty great Matt Murdock.
I guess we'll find out soon? Don't they start shooting in a few months?
I guess we'll find out soon? Don't they start shooting in a few months?
NotTheGuyYouKill
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His work in the last two seasons of Dexter was a joke.
Wiktor
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Uhh..no. Even on autopilot (like in S8) Hall is good and he was very good in S7.
There's a lot of bad that happened in late Dexter seasons, but Hall never went below good. MCH was never the problem Dexter had. In fact, at the end he was the only thing still good about it. Crap, the one episode he directed in S8 was the only one with decent direction.
I don't believe any of the problems of Dexter had to do with Hall but to be fair he was working with his recent ex.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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Probably, but it's certainly a joke compared to his work in the preceding seasons (mostly). You can tell the difference between Autopilot Hall and actually Passionate Hall.
True.
Awkward.
WanderingWind
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The problem wasn't Hall, it was the show had a concept that overstayed its welcome by like, 3 seasons and necessitated every character being a raging dumbass. Hall did what he could and was always the highlight of the show after Doakes
George Oscar Bluth II
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Never watched Dexter to judge his acting. But I guess he's OK, going by opinions on here?
He's a damn good actor.
Dexter is on Netflix, if you have it check out the first 2-3 seasons.
Wiktor
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True. But let's be honest, with possible exception of RDJ Hall is still league above anyone who's currently part of Marvel cinematic universe. Casting him as Daredevil would be incredible win for Marvel and Netflix.
Also I think you're terribly unfair towards S7. S6 was the bad one. S7 as a whole was good and there were plenty of moments where Hall shined in it. He got in interesting material there and he played it well.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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The show could have easily lasted 9 seasons if the people after Season 4 weren't so goddamn incompetent and cowardly.
Hell, they could have caught Dexter and then had some shady cop use him like Hannibal Lecter to hunt other criminals down.
I wrote a massive post in the S8 thread about how it could have easily lasted 9 seasons with some story and character tweaks without overstaying its welcome with the same tired conflicts.
But noooooooooooooooooooooooo.
You make a good point. You can see Hall spark up when they were actually trying with Season 7.
I don't really blame Hall, I know he's the best part of Dexter. But it's easy to blame him as part of it. Honestly, I don't hate MCH as Daredevil. Shit, just have him be an older vigilante running around Hell's Kitchen who has already dealt with the shitty life DD has in the books.
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