xrayregime
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On the Marvel side that's pretty true. It's right below Marvel vs. Capcom, some pinball games, Ultimate Alliance and Lego Marvel.
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Marvel Heroes 2015 |OT2| I have, like, a Gazillion heroes
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On the Marvel side that's pretty true. It's right below Marvel vs. Capcom, some pinball games, Ultimate Alliance and Lego Marvel.
arent all the marvel fighting games (the capcom ones at least) rated in the 90s? Unless you only looked for the word "Marvel"
I don't think any of them were.
xrayregime
Member
The best Spider-Man game, which was a crazy hit, is only an 87. So I don't think it's hyperbole to say Marvel Heroes is ONE of the best super hero video games.
I'll get back to you next week with the full report, Rhaknar.
edit: can't forget DC
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_video_games_based_on_DC_Comics
I'll get back to you next week with the full report, Rhaknar.
edit: can't forget DC
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_video_games_based_on_DC_Comics
xmen children of the aton
xmen vs sf
marvel heroes
marvel heroes vs sf
marvel vs capcom
marvel vs capcom 2
marvel vs capcom 3
ultimate mvc3
spiderman 2
xmen legends
xmen legends 2
marvel ultimate alliance
marvel ultimate alliance 2
lego marvel
thats just off the top of my head, I remember all of those being in the mid 80s / 90s in most sites. And im not going into the 16bit era with games like x-Men 2 (man that was awesome). granted, most of the marvel games were movie tie ins which 99% of the time are shit (that wolverine game was cool tho)
Im not shitting on MH. just thought it was a funny statement
xmen vs sf
marvel heroes
marvel heroes vs sf
marvel vs capcom
marvel vs capcom 2
marvel vs capcom 3
ultimate mvc3
spiderman 2
xmen legends
xmen legends 2
marvel ultimate alliance
marvel ultimate alliance 2
lego marvel
thats just off the top of my head, I remember all of those being in the mid 80s / 90s in most sites. And im not going into the 16bit era with games like x-Men 2 (man that was awesome). granted, most of the marvel games were movie tie ins which 99% of the time are shit (that wolverine game was cool tho)
Im not shitting on MH. just thought it was a funny statement
xrayregime
Member
All those 1990s games are lower than 90 metacritic for sure. X-Men Legends is the only X-Men game rated higher than MH, and I listed most of the others you said. I mean if you count every individual game in each series, sure Marvel Heroes isn't even in the top 10 of all super hero games, but if you look purely at IP i.e. Marvel vs. Capcom series, Ultimate Alliance series, MH is solidly there.
Spiderman 2 for PS2 has an 80 metacritic.
The sad fact is that licensed superhero games are not very good in general.
Spiderman 2 for PS2 has an 80 metacritic.
The sad fact is that licensed superhero games are not very good in general.
Remember that Metacritic is an aggregate for a wide net nowadays. UMVC3 for example only has an 80.
Affeinvasion
Member
You also have to take metacritic scores for things from years past with a pretty big grain of salt.
Spiritreaver
Member
Is Iceman out yet and not terrible?
Why am I not freezing hearts yet?
HURRY
Why am I not freezing hearts yet?
HURRY
Anoregon
The flight plan I just filed with the agency list me, my men, Dr. Pavel here. But only one of you!
Friday probably.
xrayregime
Member
Oh for sure, but even factoring that in doesn't take away from the statement that MH is in fact one of the most "highly rated superhero experiences of all time," which, as discussed, is rather toothless since almost all superhero games have been mediocre or bad.
Also I don't know if anyone ever played Spider-Man and X-Men in Arcade's Revenge, but I had it for Game Gear, and I think I'm developing PTSD from just thinking about it again. Also another game I remember really liking but got pretty bad reviews after looking it up is X2: Wolverine's Revenge, which I played on GC. I remember really enjoying that. Then again, I also really liked Deadpool.
Anyway, we got way off track with that, but I have no problem with someone making the statement that Marvel Heroes is one of the best superhero games of all time. It's objectively true.
Tragicomedy
Member
It think it's an even sillier claim considering it's a second review of the same game, even if it has been drastically revised over time. Rebranding the game with an added year on the end was a great marketing ploy to circumvent early negative reviews, but the game wasn't magically better under that moniker. It's been a slow and steady set of improvements to reach this point. I'm fine with reviewers choosing to revisit their earlier scores, but you have to be pretty stupid not to see through the name change as a consumer.
I do agree that the current game is awesome, but I enjoyed it even in its darkest days.
ya buddie i kinda agree with some but don't really see ur point
ThirtyFour
Member
Just now got around to retesting Iceman. He is a lot better.
His new sig animation isn't as good as the animation of some of his other powers but it makes much more sense as his sig than the old thing.
His new sig animation isn't as good as the animation of some of his other powers but it makes much more sense as his sig than the old thing.
they made one. Its called Prototype (they made 2 in fact)
N
Noray
Unconfirmed Member
Life hack: don't give a fuck about metacritic ratings because it's entirely arbitrary and ultimately meaningless.
Tragicomedy
Member
That is very solid advice. The game community writ large doesn't follow it, though. Developers, publishers, reviewers, and gamers alike all consider those scores super important.
Tragicomedy
Member
Marvel Heroes 2: 2017. It's coming.
-Deadpool-
Member
Popped a stack of boosts last night when I played, including an Odin Boost, Omega Potion and an iBoost lol.. Made about 300 Omegas last night which was awesome.
Got 4 Blessings of Odin while running Taskmaster! Ended up with TWO Ultimate Upgrade Tokens too, which was nice for Hulk.
Got 4 Blessings of Odin while running Taskmaster! Ended up with TWO Ultimate Upgrade Tokens too, which was nice for Hulk.
Marvel Heroes is a great case study of how to turn things around for good, regardless of how you may be feeling about the game right now.
And I mean, c'mon, they released winter soldier, people voiced complains and two weeks later, now he is a good character to play. Gaz might not be saints and weekly patches create one of the biggest issues with the game right now, which are weekly weird bugs (apparently they had to turn off save the civilians SQ this week due to just not working), but still; almost every single week, the game improves a little bit.
I think people here are experiencing an overdose, actually, lol. It's like, you play the same game, every day, for some one or two hours a day, eventually the little things that annoy you overcome the fact that this is, indeed, a dream of a marvel game.
And I mean, c'mon, they released winter soldier, people voiced complains and two weeks later, now he is a good character to play. Gaz might not be saints and weekly patches create one of the biggest issues with the game right now, which are weekly weird bugs (apparently they had to turn off save the civilians SQ this week due to just not working), but still; almost every single week, the game improves a little bit.
I think people here are experiencing an overdose, actually, lol. It's like, you play the same game, every day, for some one or two hours a day, eventually the little things that annoy you overcome the fact that this is, indeed, a dream of a marvel game.
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Queen of Hunting
Unconfirmed Member
that civillian bug has been reporting 2 weeks ago which they turned it off then and said a fix would be in next patch
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Queen of Hunting
Unconfirmed Member
in fact heres the post
We have live-tuned off the shared quest for today since the Save Civilians component cannot be completed due to a bug. A fix for the bug has been checked in, and our expectation is that everything will be functioning normally this time next week.
and this week its the same bug
in other news my location set at there forums is marvel bugs
im liking thse iceman chnages they actually did listen to feedback on him
CHANGES
Frozen Orb and Icy Arsenal attack speeds increased ~20%. This took a little longer than expected since the powers had to be re-arted, but both are now increased. this is a very sesual change
Absolute Zero now makes Iceman invulnerable during the entire duration of the power. The visuals are also complete!
Ice Wall now, when the player has chosen Construct Focus, explodes when struck with a Shatter power. This will give Shatter powers use and meaning to Construct builds by way of creating a unique 1-2 punch.
Snowblower is no longer a Basic power, and now moves Iceman while channeling, creating a mobile force of snowy death. Snowblower was noted as not having a position in the current iteration, so this will position it as a mobile alternative for easy clearing.
Shatter powers now have no cooldown by default, and gain a 3 second cooldown with their respective passive. This will help smoothen the rotation for builds in regards to when to use a Shatter. They should no longer consume stacks of Chill unless 5 have been applied.
Flash Freeze now has a 4 second cooldown and no spirit cost, and scales the damage bonus with power ranks. Fixed a bug causing Flash Freeze's damage bonus to not apply. This positions Flash Freeze as a strong utility power and alternative layer.
Ice Block now will automatically activate if Ice Man is defeated, resurrecting him back to full health and spirit.
Icicles tooltip should now display properly, and has a Spirit cost.
Glacial Slam should now bypass all terrain elevation and pathing blockers. Cooldown reduced to 6 seconds. Weaken added, which has been removed from Icy Arsenal.
Work of Art no longer has timing issues when the player has bonus power duration. It is no longer considered a Ranged power, and now gains bonus damage based on your Summoned Ally Bonus Damage.
Frozen Blades is now a Basic attack.
Frost Nova's passive effect converted to give bonus to Chilled instead of Slowed.
Ice Beam is now an Area power.
Ice Slide's animation has been updated to include more dips and rises instead of travelling at the same elevation
Chill visuals have been updated.
STASH icon corrected from Hawkeye to Iceman.
Age of Icemen now creates the same ice clone, which can fire one of two powers, rather than creating two different types of ice clones.
We have live-tuned off the shared quest for today since the Save Civilians component cannot be completed due to a bug. A fix for the bug has been checked in, and our expectation is that everything will be functioning normally this time next week.
and this week its the same bug
in other news my location set at there forums is marvel bugs
im liking thse iceman chnages they actually did listen to feedback on him
CHANGES
Frozen Orb and Icy Arsenal attack speeds increased ~20%. This took a little longer than expected since the powers had to be re-arted, but both are now increased. this is a very sesual change
Absolute Zero now makes Iceman invulnerable during the entire duration of the power. The visuals are also complete!
Ice Wall now, when the player has chosen Construct Focus, explodes when struck with a Shatter power. This will give Shatter powers use and meaning to Construct builds by way of creating a unique 1-2 punch.
Snowblower is no longer a Basic power, and now moves Iceman while channeling, creating a mobile force of snowy death. Snowblower was noted as not having a position in the current iteration, so this will position it as a mobile alternative for easy clearing.
Shatter powers now have no cooldown by default, and gain a 3 second cooldown with their respective passive. This will help smoothen the rotation for builds in regards to when to use a Shatter. They should no longer consume stacks of Chill unless 5 have been applied.
Flash Freeze now has a 4 second cooldown and no spirit cost, and scales the damage bonus with power ranks. Fixed a bug causing Flash Freeze's damage bonus to not apply. This positions Flash Freeze as a strong utility power and alternative layer.
Ice Block now will automatically activate if Ice Man is defeated, resurrecting him back to full health and spirit.
Icicles tooltip should now display properly, and has a Spirit cost.
Glacial Slam should now bypass all terrain elevation and pathing blockers. Cooldown reduced to 6 seconds. Weaken added, which has been removed from Icy Arsenal.
Work of Art no longer has timing issues when the player has bonus power duration. It is no longer considered a Ranged power, and now gains bonus damage based on your Summoned Ally Bonus Damage.
Frozen Blades is now a Basic attack.
Frost Nova's passive effect converted to give bonus to Chilled instead of Slowed.
Ice Beam is now an Area power.
Ice Slide's animation has been updated to include more dips and rises instead of travelling at the same elevation
Chill visuals have been updated.
STASH icon corrected from Hawkeye to Iceman.
Age of Icemen now creates the same ice clone, which can fire one of two powers, rather than creating two different types of ice clones.
Well, I didn't played any version of Winter Soldier, but a bunch of people said that he is a good character, now. Which means declarius is wrong.
Look, they need a way better way to do QA; that's a given and we've spoken about it before, my point is: this *is* a damn good Marvel game, by a team that listened to feedback to turn crap into a game that has been a very and enjoyable ride for me for many months now and that continues to do so.
It is a good game, one that well deserved all the accolades for how the product was handled since a bad release and, I believe, still deserves accolade for how it is handled each time new hero or content is released.
Look, they need a way better way to do QA; that's a given and we've spoken about it before, my point is: this *is* a damn good Marvel game, by a team that listened to feedback to turn crap into a game that has been a very and enjoyable ride for me for many months now and that continues to do so.
It is a good game, one that well deserved all the accolades for how the product was handled since a bad release and, I believe, still deserves accolade for how it is handled each time new hero or content is released.
-Deadpool-
Member
I saw in the chat last night that lots of people were having trouble completing the Save Civilians quest thing.
Guess I didn't get affected, I started a group in MM for the Daily SQ and within 10 minutes it was all done.
Guess I didn't get affected, I started a group in MM for the Daily SQ and within 10 minutes it was all done.
-Deadpool-
Member
I'm only playing him Ranged, and it's much more rewarding.
-Deadpool-
Member
I'd like to try it, but like you say, the whiffing on attacks would get old fast. Ranged feels more reliable (even if damage is a bit less or whatever).
Frostinferno
Member
Training Room was added to the hub list on the waypoint.
Flamethrower spec is Cap review levels of good (Yup, I'm going there). Going to try the recently reworked Ol' Painless spec now, will post more after.
Flamethrower spec is Cap review levels of good (Yup, I'm going there). Going to try the recently reworked Ol' Painless spec now, will post more after.
Finally.
Frostinferno
Member
New Colossus costume for the two people who play him.
And Gold HERBIE as an achievement reward (?)
And Gold HERBIE as an achievement reward (?)
-Deadpool-
Member
New Colossus costume is goooood.
I want that Future Foundation Spider-Ham.
I want that Future Foundation Spider-Ham.
Spiritreaver
Member
Piotr is probably the sexiest male in the game.
I wish I could be him.
I wish I could be him.
Tragicomedy
Member
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Queen of Hunting
Unconfirmed Member
movie groot team up
and next event is a week of midtown madness so
ok for iceman i guess
-Deadpool-
Member
Nice. Week of Midtown Madness will be great. I'm not often around Monday night's lately to make the most/anything of MM, so this will be great (especially, as you mention, for gearing/leveling Bobby).
Frostinferno
Member
Now we're talking, Iceman has finally come together. Aside from some pretty big spirit issues (which they'll hopefully fix before release), he feels thorough and complete. Biggest hero turnaround within a single pre-release testing period, I'm impressed.
You try him yet Queen? I can't imagine this build not washing all that salt away.
You try him yet Queen? I can't imagine this build not washing all that salt away.
-Deadpool-
Member
His new Signature is brilliant. Much more like what I was expecting.
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Queen of Hunting
Unconfirmed Member
yup was just on tc. like others have said his spirit is huge big deal which hopefully gets some change there but overall he needed thse changes and its good gaz listened and dealt with them quikcly and effectively unlike with winter soldier.
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Queen of Hunting
Unconfirmed Member
how long before it starts and is it free to watch lol
colossus is no good ??