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Marvel Heroes 2015 |OT2| I have, like, a Gazillion heroes
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Queen of Hunting
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Full details will be provided in the weeks to come theyre far too many for one mere press release to handle but highlights of some of the most notable features to be released include the following, beginning this December and throughout 2016:
Secret Invasion Story Chapter: Battle alien Skrulls of all shapes and sizes, including the Super-Skrull himself, Klrt, who makes his long-awaited, much requested Marvel Heroes debut.
Controller Support: One of the communitys most requested features.
Visual Updates: Revamped looks for characters introduced during Marvel Heroes 2013 launch window.
Leaderboards: Something new and interesting to do every night. Tournaments and Seasons will grow out of this eventually.
Steam Achievements: Players loved the new in-game achievements added to Marvel Heroes 2015 now, the feature extends to Steam with nearly 100 of them.
Mac Out of Beta: The Mac version has been in beta for over a year now. Not anymore.
: Keeping things current with what is happening in the greater Marvel landscape to a greater degree than ever, such as the current All-New All-Different comics, while still also continuing to honor over 75 years of comic history.
Meanwhile, other exciting material is planned for the months to follow the December launch:
Savage Land Patrol Zone: A never-ending gauntlet of dinosaurs, sadistic mutates and more!
Thanos Raid: The Mad Titan makes his Marvel Heroes debut.
More! Stay tuned for further announcements.
In addition to this abundance of new content, players can expect the continuous flow of new playable characters (now numbering more than 50!), team-up heroes, pets and more to proceed as theyve grown accustomed to over the past two years.
Secret Invasion Story Chapter: Battle alien Skrulls of all shapes and sizes, including the Super-Skrull himself, Klrt, who makes his long-awaited, much requested Marvel Heroes debut.
Controller Support: One of the communitys most requested features.
Visual Updates: Revamped looks for characters introduced during Marvel Heroes 2013 launch window.
Leaderboards: Something new and interesting to do every night. Tournaments and Seasons will grow out of this eventually.
Steam Achievements: Players loved the new in-game achievements added to Marvel Heroes 2015 now, the feature extends to Steam with nearly 100 of them.
Mac Out of Beta: The Mac version has been in beta for over a year now. Not anymore.
: Keeping things current with what is happening in the greater Marvel landscape to a greater degree than ever, such as the current All-New All-Different comics, while still also continuing to honor over 75 years of comic history.
Meanwhile, other exciting material is planned for the months to follow the December launch:
Savage Land Patrol Zone: A never-ending gauntlet of dinosaurs, sadistic mutates and more!
Thanos Raid: The Mad Titan makes his Marvel Heroes debut.
More! Stay tuned for further announcements.
In addition to this abundance of new content, players can expect the continuous flow of new playable characters (now numbering more than 50!), team-up heroes, pets and more to proceed as theyve grown accustomed to over the past two years.
The longer it lingered without comment, the more douchebaggery I felt.
Frostinferno
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Should be right before or after Thanksgiving. Then again, they may just hold him back and release him alongside the relaunch. Who knows these days. It has been two months since Cable's review and there hasn't been more than a peep regarding Deadpool's review.
Affeinvasion
Member
I'd actually be very happy if they slowed down on releasing heroes and created new content with new bosses.
I wouldn't mind if they just stopped with most of the new content full stop and started spicing up existing content. Everything (except Raids or PvP which I don't touch so I don't know) feels like with a round or two of polish and new stuff could become much better. They have a wide variety of stuff to do already, and 50 classes to do it with. Just step it up a bit.
I want all new all different content.
Oh boy another patrol zone that looks like the other patrol zones.
Weeeee!
Frostinferno
Member
You guys ever wonder what it's like to look up from that jet in Avengers tower? Well wonder no more!
Tragicomedy
Member
Anoregon
The flight plan I just filed with the agency list me, my men, Dr. Pavel here. But only one of you!
I mean, they are eventually going to get to a point where the pool of playable characters they can add becomes more and more niche. It seems like everyone has an absolutely favorite character that 99% of the rest of the world doesn't really give a shit about, and sadly those types of characters don't necessarily warrant a large chunk of dev time to get into the game just for the sake of adding new heroes.
Super Skrull should totally be playable though, yeah. It's pretty much the only way a character with Fantastic Four characters will ever be popular.
Super Skrull should totally be playable though, yeah. It's pretty much the only way a character with Fantastic Four characters will ever be popular.
Tragicomedy
Member
I've been saying this for some time now. We're already starting to stretch a bit with some of the characters in game. She-Hulk and Taskmaster are not very popular comic book characters, and aren't in films for more mainstream awareness. War Machine is a pathetic Iron Man knockoff...are we supposed to be excited for his release?
Blade has some mainstream recognition from the Wesley Snipes movies. Magik in her current form wasn't even around until 2007, and nobody cared about her until very recently. Black Cat is the definition of whatever; she's a nice rack in search of a character. Beast? Shoehorned Angela as Thor's sister? Miles Morales? Wasp? Who are we supposed to look forward to next year? If there even is an advanced pack 3 (and I highly doubt there will be since nobody there is appealing), it will need to be 50% cheaper. And even then, I'm not buying it.
Iron Fist has been around forever and is a favorite for many (including me), but he fits into that niche appeal you mentioned. The fact that they are purposefully holding off on him until the very last major release of AP2 tells you all you need to know about the state of what characters are still out there for release. If Danny is your big marquee release for the year, you're stretching thin.
Anoregon
The flight plan I just filed with the agency list me, my men, Dr. Pavel here. But only one of you!
She-Hulk and War Machine are at least well-known characters, though. And Iron Fist has a a Netflix show in the works which definitely knocks him up a few notches in the relevance bracket. I'll admit I didn't really know anything about Taskmaster until I saw him in MH but he already existed in the game at least, so making him playable wasn't a big deal.
Once Gaz starts adding Runaways characters you will know that they have exhausted all of the actually worthwhile properties. Nothing will ever make me care about fucking nico minoru.
Once Gaz starts adding Runaways characters you will know that they have exhausted all of the actually worthwhile properties. Nothing will ever make me care about fucking nico minoru.
Tragicomedy
Member
Agreed, and I am a BKV stan who likes the Runaways. When I'm not interested...
I'd give anything for a Molly Hayes team up though.
Tragicomedy
Member
When Hazmat and Mettle drop in advanced pack 4, I'm out!
Affeinvasion
Member
Doop should be a team up but they've done doop dirty so far.
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Queen of Hunting
Unconfirmed Member
hahahaha poor black bolt
also
also
Affeinvasion
Member
Blackbolt would be a perfect character to make during the voice actor strike.
Frostinferno
Member
Blade is up on the TC. Someone play and post impressions.
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Queen of Hunting
Unconfirmed Member
blade synergy is same as deadpool
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Queen of Hunting
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so far blade needs a nerf on heals
Frostinferno
Member
Has to be a placeholder as it doesn't make any sense for him.
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Queen of Hunting
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feels like a 2001 game with his texture on coat
hahahaha his run animation is so bad, his arms n movement just look so robot
hahahaha his run animation is so bad, his arms n movement just look so robot
Addy costume core (previously said by ryolnir to be prom)
Really hard to know how significant bloodlust is because it isn't taking away his health at the moment.
I only played melee build.
You cannot really play hybrid, his ranged tree has ranged versions of all his melee powers and they share cooldowns with the melee versions. Using a mixture can be done but you would only do so if you want that playstyle and don't care about a damage loss.
His uniques are good, hit 50 in everything. Has 24-25k health. Nice passives. Fairly good regen (gives group constitution), some life on hit. I think he needs a 25% core and doop runeword depending on specialization choice. His signature is Mr. Fantastic's with half the damage, half the amount of bounces but half the cooldown and you don't have to use all 3 jumps back to back, just within 15 seconds. His powers fit on a bar pretty well.
Potential negatives:
His bleed situation is weird but it seems like an easy thing to fix.
I could see people finding him a bit clunky but the powers that have animation lock are very highly damaging.
Lacking in big AOE.
Rotation:
Standard rotation looking like: UV Grenade (scaling stun +10% vuln) > Glaive Orbit (applies his one non-stacking bleed) > Toxin-Loaded Gauntlet (a Dempsey Roll-like combo with a huge burst at the end +35% vuln with that trees powers) > Stake Through The Heart (huge 1 target nuke CD, 2x damage to bleeding) > Hack n' Slash (spender) until repeat.
Pretty standard rotation, pretty standard mechanics with a new underlying mechanic mixing things up (his Serum mentioned above).
Serum:
You gain Bloodlust from applying his one non-stacking bleed, when full you gain 10% attack/move speed and 10% damage but lose some health constantly. Your 3 options for specializing the mechanic are these:
1. +defense and +20% health when not Bloodlusted. Bloodlust gains 50% slower. - You never have to be Bloodlusted with this.
2. Instantly reset all non-signature powers, restore 25% spirit, you maintain the 10% damage and attack/movespeed at all times but with no health loss. - Seems like you will be actual Bloodlusted (losing health) for only 4s per 12s this way. The other 8s you have the benefits of Bloodlust with no negatives.
3. +10% damage, +10% crit chance, +10% spirit cost reduction, double the health loss from normal Bloodlust - Always Bloodlusted, 70-75% crit chance, constantly losing HP (can't know how much because of the bug)
Worth mentioning that you heal for a nice chunk when you use Serum and go back to 0 Bloodlust, it's about 14k health with full Bloodlust. The 1st spec doesn't reach Bloodlust so this heal is nice but not as big, the 2nd spec should get the full 14k health every 12 seconds and the final build would only get the heal in dire situations because you are sacrificing damage for it.
Also he is a dodge hero and we don't have the defense rework yet. He is deflect/defense which means pretty squish for now.
He may gain bloodlust much faster than I'm seeing, during testing vulnerability stuff with his bleeds I noticed that his AOE bleeds are only applying the bleed to one target.
Really hard to know how significant bloodlust is because it isn't taking away his health at the moment.
I only played melee build.
You cannot really play hybrid, his ranged tree has ranged versions of all his melee powers and they share cooldowns with the melee versions. Using a mixture can be done but you would only do so if you want that playstyle and don't care about a damage loss.
His uniques are good, hit 50 in everything. Has 24-25k health. Nice passives. Fairly good regen (gives group constitution), some life on hit. I think he needs a 25% core and doop runeword depending on specialization choice. His signature is Mr. Fantastic's with half the damage, half the amount of bounces but half the cooldown and you don't have to use all 3 jumps back to back, just within 15 seconds. His powers fit on a bar pretty well.
Potential negatives:
His bleed situation is weird but it seems like an easy thing to fix.
I could see people finding him a bit clunky but the powers that have animation lock are very highly damaging.
Lacking in big AOE.
Rotation:
Standard rotation looking like: UV Grenade (scaling stun +10% vuln) > Glaive Orbit (applies his one non-stacking bleed) > Toxin-Loaded Gauntlet (a Dempsey Roll-like combo with a huge burst at the end +35% vuln with that trees powers) > Stake Through The Heart (huge 1 target nuke CD, 2x damage to bleeding) > Hack n' Slash (spender) until repeat.
Pretty standard rotation, pretty standard mechanics with a new underlying mechanic mixing things up (his Serum mentioned above).
Serum:
You gain Bloodlust from applying his one non-stacking bleed, when full you gain 10% attack/move speed and 10% damage but lose some health constantly. Your 3 options for specializing the mechanic are these:
1. +defense and +20% health when not Bloodlusted. Bloodlust gains 50% slower. - You never have to be Bloodlusted with this.
2. Instantly reset all non-signature powers, restore 25% spirit, you maintain the 10% damage and attack/movespeed at all times but with no health loss. - Seems like you will be actual Bloodlusted (losing health) for only 4s per 12s this way. The other 8s you have the benefits of Bloodlust with no negatives.
3. +10% damage, +10% crit chance, +10% spirit cost reduction, double the health loss from normal Bloodlust - Always Bloodlusted, 70-75% crit chance, constantly losing HP (can't know how much because of the bug)
Worth mentioning that you heal for a nice chunk when you use Serum and go back to 0 Bloodlust, it's about 14k health with full Bloodlust. The 1st spec doesn't reach Bloodlust so this heal is nice but not as big, the 2nd spec should get the full 14k health every 12 seconds and the final build would only get the heal in dire situations because you are sacrificing damage for it.
Also he is a dodge hero and we don't have the defense rework yet. He is deflect/defense which means pretty squish for now.
He may gain bloodlust much faster than I'm seeing, during testing vulnerability stuff with his bleeds I noticed that his AOE bleeds are only applying the bleed to one target.
Frostinferno
Member
You would never give up the big stats for dodge. It would only make dodge nice to have on a piece of gear.
Thanks for the writeup. Hopefully they do properly balance hybrid as that's how I'd like to go with Blade.
Yeah, that's what I thought. Looks like my plans for Spider Gwen have hit the back burner. My kid needs $50 for wrestling participation and probably at least $70 for gear including shoes. Thankfully his Christmas wants are fairly simple at his age. itunes gift card and xbox live gold.
I got Squirrel Girl up to lvl 48-ish. Gonna put her on the shelf for a bit too.
I gotta say though, this is the first time I've gone through the revamped story mode and I really dig the changes. I like the story mode boxes with eternity splinters too.
The new TC patch is up and I don't even know how Bloodlust will work in its current form.
You take like 750 damage twice per second when in bloodlust. The bloodlust spec takes 2x that. You can't even stay alive with it on with any amount of realistic healing in the game.
At least you cannot be killed by Bloodlust, you just run around with 50 health all the time.
You take like 750 damage twice per second when in bloodlust. The bloodlust spec takes 2x that. You can't even stay alive with it on with any amount of realistic healing in the game.
At least you cannot be killed by Bloodlust, you just run around with 50 health all the time.
Affeinvasion
Member
Does blade have a ranged power where he roundhouse kicks a wooden stake through the air? Because he should.
In an interview they said he'd have that "Ice skate up hill" finisher from Blade in the game.
Ok I've been doing Danger Room with him and trying Bloodlust in different ways. You can play him fine without Bloodlust and just do less damage and be tank-ish.
I did a scenario with full bloodlust and I'd be lying if I said it wasn't fun in a I could die at any moment right now-way. I got a scenario with duplicate bosses so I fought Hyde x2 at the same time with full bloodlust and just had to invuln and dodge my way around the fight.
It was cool. I just don't think full bloodlust will fly in Axis or cosmic patrols in its current form. I also don't want them to nerf the health loss into it becoming a non-issue because I have wanted a hero like this for a while.
Venom looked promising with his health costing abilities but in the end they cost so little it changes nothing in terms of gameplay.
He has a panic gameplay going on if you want to play that way where one false step could end it for you. DPSing a boss at 300 hp while your team up tanks, just waiting for the animation of the boss that is aoe/could kill you so you can medkit or Serum a split second before to survive.
Taking care of trash is his weakness at the moment. No good group clear for melee and you definitely don't want to be 300 hp running through a Modok terminal. You need to use bloodlust sparingly taking care of trash and just go full bloodlust while play smartly vs. bosses that have more predictable damage tells.
The single target damage is good, and fantastic if you can manage the health loss.
I did a scenario with full bloodlust and I'd be lying if I said it wasn't fun in a I could die at any moment right now-way. I got a scenario with duplicate bosses so I fought Hyde x2 at the same time with full bloodlust and just had to invuln and dodge my way around the fight.
It was cool. I just don't think full bloodlust will fly in Axis or cosmic patrols in its current form. I also don't want them to nerf the health loss into it becoming a non-issue because I have wanted a hero like this for a while.
Venom looked promising with his health costing abilities but in the end they cost so little it changes nothing in terms of gameplay.
He has a panic gameplay going on if you want to play that way where one false step could end it for you. DPSing a boss at 300 hp while your team up tanks, just waiting for the animation of the boss that is aoe/could kill you so you can medkit or Serum a split second before to survive.
Taking care of trash is his weakness at the moment. No good group clear for melee and you definitely don't want to be 300 hp running through a Modok terminal. You need to use bloodlust sparingly taking care of trash and just go full bloodlust while play smartly vs. bosses that have more predictable damage tells.
The single target damage is good, and fantastic if you can manage the health loss.
It's fairly interesting with the random affixes and it could destroy some heroes. You kind of have to mouse over the portal and check the affixes before entering because currently you cannot change hero mid-scenario, even if you bodyslide out.
In the notes they have said the difficulty still isn't where they want it, and bosses are bugged to be much easier than intended so who knows where difficulty ends up.
It's harder than cosmic terminals but I think it could be quite a bit harder and the random hazards need to deal like 20x more damage. Who cares about falling wrecking balls if when they hit they do 500 damage.
In the notes they have said the difficulty still isn't where they want it, and bosses are bugged to be much easier than intended so who knows where difficulty ends up.
It's harder than cosmic terminals but I think it could be quite a bit harder and the random hazards need to deal like 20x more damage. Who cares about falling wrecking balls if when they hit they do 500 damage.
dont be racist
Tragicomedy
Member
For real, white theme is the worst. Additional eye strain and it looks crummy. I'm not sure how it's the default.
Affeinvasion
Member
White text on dark background hurts my eyes. Almost like when you look at something bright for a while and then you get those "ghosts."
