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Marvel Heroes 2015 |OT2| I have, like, a Gazillion heroes
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well now I have to use it to rep the AP2. still prefer the white one tho
Spiritreaver
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By the hoary hosts of Hoggoth, this game has audio emotes? Amazing.
of course you do...I bet you spam wolverine's dash too >_>
Spiritreaver
Member
I'm totally with you. I got Cyclops' cycle and I run circles around people in hubs, lol.
Hoya Destroyer
Member
I wonder who has the fastest motorcycle out of Cyclops, Wolvie and Ghost Rider?
Frostinferno
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Juggernaut
-Deadpool-
Member
So the superior Mags costume will be available at release.
Awwwww yeah!
It will be mine.
AdawgDaFAB
Member
For Post-Review Thor players, what do y'all think of this build for Thor that I'm working on? Any suggestions for changes?
I open all battles with Buff -> DoT layer -> Asgardian Smite -> Sig for initial vuln + positioning + full odinforce and no decay while in the DoT. Then Ragnarok for big AoE blast and Hammer Smash spam afterwards. I cycle in the CD moves and DoT when they are up. I rarely need the basic, since I alternate between Spirit on Medkit and Son of Odin for Spirit regain.
I'm still finishing off his leveling and hunting the uniques, but the pet / arts / ring / insignia / core / relics are pieces I actually have. Rather than theory crafting some amazing rolls / high stacks for those, I just went with what I have + the uniques I'm hunting.
I open all battles with Buff -> DoT layer -> Asgardian Smite -> Sig for initial vuln + positioning + full odinforce and no decay while in the DoT. Then Ragnarok for big AoE blast and Hammer Smash spam afterwards. I cycle in the CD moves and DoT when they are up. I rarely need the basic, since I alternate between Spirit on Medkit and Son of Odin for Spirit regain.
Frostinferno
Member
Sad as it is, there is only one real optimal build for Thor (if that's what you're looking for).
It was actually confirmed 3 weeks ago, Dink just finished modeling it and it's headed to Marvel for approval.
Red Arremer
Member
Your build looks super different from mine, haha. One thing I immediately notice is that you haven't put points into the one point wonder passives, or anything into the healing shield (which severely increases Strange's survivability). I don't even really bother with the mirror image tree.
If you want, I'll screencap my build (which I think is pretty solid, but I'm not a minmaxer mind you), and you can try it out on your second spec?
Hoya Destroyer
Member
I've heard people say Thor isnt very good, but Ive found him fun and effective as a melee based character.
My build is similar to the optimal build frost posted, except I max out the crashdown strike and dont use his signature power or the one below it.
My build is similar to the optimal build frost posted, except I max out the crashdown strike and dont use his signature power or the one below it.
He's fine. Damage is lower than the top tier characters, but he is effective. I've been farming Kurse with him and he does well.
Baron_Calamity
Member
Sure, I would love to give it a shot.
Red Arremer
Member
Sure.
My basic rotation for mobs is: Flames of the Faltine (pulls em all in) -> Crimson Bands (keeps them in the fire) -> Seven Suns (just shotgun damage to stack onto the bound people).
I also use Vapors of Valtorr for big piles, and Demons of Denaak on elites or bosses (Vapors here often as well).
I usually drop in Seal of the Vishanti and Shield of the Seraphim to get the incantation stacks, as well as to keep my damage/health maxed, but only for bigger fights.
And Eye of Agamotto on high health enemies or big piles if needed and off cooldown.
xrayregime
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I'm using the build Frost posted, and he's pretty good so far. His signature is nice, and after they buff spinning strike he should have some nice single target damage.
Similar build, Declarius? The only problem I have with him is that once again the best build requires a Power Cosmic. At least that event starts up again this week.
Thanks. Here are my Dr. Strange
Skill Tree:
1) You have points distributed to skills that are pretty much 1 point wonders. Both Images and Astral Form should only have 1 point. There's actually no tangible difference between 1 and 20 since you don't care about duration.
2) The Mystic Arts Tree. Every skills except for Flight needs to have 1 point. This tree will heal you, make you immune to range attacks (except for bullets), increases your defense, give you a 25% damage reduction shield, adds 500 damage points, increases your max spirit, debuff your enemies, give you spirit, clears you off all CC effect, cancel Cosmic Boss attacks like Mortar. All this for 6 points.
3) Daggers. I'm curious as to why you have Daggers and Fangs. They accomplish the same thing (filler between DOTs) )and you cannot use them both at the same time. I suggest you drop Daggers. Dagger doesn't mesh well with incantations at all. It's only useful factor is it doesn't cost spirit.
4) Demons. This skill at max level gives you back 600 health per second. You will need to max this if you don't want to die. With this skill, Shield of the Serpahim and a 25% core (or Astral form) you can instantly heal yourself to near max health at anytime you want.
5) Sins. This is his 3-4th best filler (Fangs, Wind, Icy) but as you level and get better gear it's actually his second best. Crit gear will heavily influence this damage but even before then this skill needs to be max because the short cooldown is critical either Winds or a Fangs build.
6) Crimson Bands: If you're using a Fangs build then this stays max but otherwise 1 point. This skill scales horribly.
7) Flames: Max it. It's his best Area DOT. Vapors is good but Flames have a CC factor and faster cast time.
8) Dreamwalking. Whatever DPS skill you can't max, take points from Dream Walking. Try not to get below 15 though.
8) Main spender/dps skill. You can either use Fangs or Winds. Fangs have a better single target DPS. Winds have a better AOE dps and it's much easier to use. My suggestion is to move all your points in Fangs to Wind so you can get a better hold of the new rotation. Fangs is much more difficult to use effectively.
9) Rotation for a Winds Build: Flow chart
Boss (Y) = Sins -> WoW -> Icy. Sins -> WoW -> Icy -> Vapors -> Flames -> Bands -> Back to start
Boss (N) = WoW (everything should be dead/near dead) -> Icy -> whatever.
Just make sure you add in your defensive incantations anytime you need it. Too many projectile enemies? Through in Seven Bands somewhere, Needs health? Throw in Shield. Your images died for some reason? Add in Images.
Once you get your main rotation down, Strange becomes wondrous because he can do anything.
I'll talk more about Artifacts and other stuff a little later.
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Noray
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I use this exact build and it does pretty well for me. The way some people are talking you'd think the Thor designers killed their dog but he's nowhere near as bad as Cap or BW (who I like but isn't that strong). My only gripes are Odinforce is a bad mechanic, because it doesn't add anything, but then again in my current build it's a total non-issue so it doesn't bother me. It's just totally pointless. Also it's very similar to how he played before the rework, so it doesn't feel super exciting. Might try the build Frost posted.
Exactly. Typical forum complainers
No, Thor is not the top powerful character in the game, but he's fine. He's no worse than mid-pack or above mid-pack, which is acceptable
Red Arremer
Member
So you think Winds is that great? It didn't really overwhelm me when I tried it, but I guess I could look into it for dual spec.
Wait Widow still is trash after her review? Sad.
That said, Cap at least has the advantage of being really fun to play as.
N
Noray
Unconfirmed Member
I'd still put Thor in the upper-mid tier. He's far better than most ranged heroes, even Cyclops post-rework, or Star-Lord, or Nova, or Mr Fantastic, the list goes on. I hope the upcoming damage change makes ranged characters worthwhile to play as and actually makes good on the "glass" part of glass cannon. But knowing Gaz I'm pretty fearful for such a sweeping change to a core system.
AdawgDaFAB
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Wouldn't it be the "cannon" part that the upcoming change affects? Since many ranged heroes are already pretty "glass" / squishy?
Personally I agree, I consider Thor upper-mid tier now too
I was just saying for the forum complainers, there's absolutely no way you can place Thor below mid-pack now, or they're full of crap
Hereafter or any Dr. Strange experts --
Can you give me suggestions on what gear to change out? I have all 66 uniques, but literally only have 9030 HP (unbuffed standing by myself). On high wave XDEF/Holo or some cosmic terminals, I die fast (like krazy):
Book of Vishanti
Mechanical Arms of Doc Octopus
Hydra Belt-Mounted Sonar Targeting System
Disciple of Domammu Sash
Eye of Agamotto
Danger AI Chip (391 Mental)
Magneto Was Right T-Shirt
Advanced Metasensory Array
Advanced Amulet of Agamotto (308 Mental)
Wizard - medallion
Storm Giant Magi - runeword
Gungnir
** Only thing is please don't recommend any boss-specific items, I'm not going to farm for those
Can you give me suggestions on what gear to change out? I have all 66 uniques, but literally only have 9030 HP (unbuffed standing by myself). On high wave XDEF/Holo or some cosmic terminals, I die fast (like krazy):
Book of Vishanti
Mechanical Arms of Doc Octopus
Hydra Belt-Mounted Sonar Targeting System
Disciple of Domammu Sash
Eye of Agamotto
Danger AI Chip (391 Mental)
Magneto Was Right T-Shirt
Advanced Metasensory Array
Advanced Amulet of Agamotto (308 Mental)
Wizard - medallion
Storm Giant Magi - runeword
Gungnir
** Only thing is please don't recommend any boss-specific items, I'm not going to farm for those
Winds is the single most burst damaging AOE spell Strange have. My Winds can brute for 1.5 million plus it hits the whole screen.
10-11k is more than feasible on Strange. Change out the slot 3 for the Shield Belt (more DPS, a little health) or his own (more health and power duration).
What so you use for relics? Are you using Seal? Seal adds 1k worth of extra hp to Strange (among other benefits) and should be the first spell you cast in your rotation.
Thanks for the reply.
For relics I only use a single Lemuria right now. Since I play all 40 characters, I can only stack full relics on a few mains and Dr. Strange is not one of them right now.
I have one point in Seal. I do use it on bosses and hard fights, but not most regular fights. Good tip though, I forgot it adds HP
I'm using the same as what Frost linked, there's nothing better if you want a boss killing build but it's weak for mob clearing. I have a second build focused more on aoe.
I used a mix as my primary build for a while but the current one is absolutely 100% better than it, even if I still did well with it.
Was it the one you bid on for 2 GoKs? I thought you were done trading?
I ended up finding a low rolled one in game and it rerolled really well.
Frostinferno
Member
Glad they're at least getting out the new One-Shot before the year end. Chapter 10, though, will probably be pushed into 2015 at this point.
Aside from a maxed Son of Odin on cooldown, any of the spirit proc artifacts (Zola's, Lizard's, or Nimrod) and a 25% medkit core should do.
Aside from a maxed Son of Odin on cooldown, any of the spirit proc artifacts (Zola's, Lizard's, or Nimrod) and a 25% medkit core should do.
AdawgDaFAB
Member
That's Son of Odin.
AdawgDaFAB
Member
So, TC has a bug where Spider-Clone mobs were dropping boss loot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0N4cBeQcrco
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0N4cBeQcrco
Frostinferno
Member
Finally, they tuned the loot correctly.
lol watch it make it to Live
AdawgDaFAB
Member
Uggg, I really need to get a Power Doop during this next event.
Hoya Destroyer
Member
This new Juggs costume just looks like a palette swap to me. Pretty disappointing considering his two existing costumes already look so similar. I liked his Age of Apocalypse one, where he wasnt wearing a helmet and was wearing rags. Ah well.
http://forums.marvelheroes.com/discussion/150901/new-costume-juggernaut-x-men-hd#latest
http://forums.marvelheroes.com/discussion/150901/new-costume-juggernaut-x-men-hd#latest
This new Juggs costume just looks like a palette swap to me. Pretty disappointing considering his two existing costumes already look so similar. I liked his Age of Apocalypse one, where he wasnt wearing a helmet and was wearing rags. Ah well.
http://forums.marvelheroes.com/discussion/150901/new-costume-juggernaut-x-men-hd#latest
that looks terrible