I believe it is a 10 second duration with a 20 second CD.
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I believe it is a 10 second duration with a 20 second CD.
-Deadpool-
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Put a good chunk of time into this over the weekend.
My Hawkeye is now level 31 and I've finally after all this time, finished the game.
It's my first complete run through, and solo all the way. Loki was damn hard with Hawkeye - must have died 10 times, but thankfully the checkpoint is right there to resume the battle.
Ended my play-through with just one Unique (HulkBuster Arrow) which dropped in Norway and one Cosmic item (which I bought for 45 Splinters). Unfortunately the Cosmic was an arrow quiver too.
Over the weekend with the +% bonuses, I also used my two vials for +rare and special find, but really didn't get anything of note besides the Unique, so I'm still rocking mostly purple, blue and green gear.
They've definitely improved Hawkeye since I started playing on release, that's for sure. He's not as squishy - and Explosive Arrow (and the Turret) are amazing now.
I've not been keeping up with all the extras, Odin thingies and Runes etc, but most of them looked like you'd need some serious play time to make use. Saw a couple of Runes drop over the weekend too, which are now in my stash.
Love the game, glad to finally finish it. Might consider grabbing a character now and doing another run.
My Hawkeye is now level 31 and I've finally after all this time, finished the game.
It's my first complete run through, and solo all the way. Loki was damn hard with Hawkeye - must have died 10 times, but thankfully the checkpoint is right there to resume the battle.
Ended my play-through with just one Unique (HulkBuster Arrow) which dropped in Norway and one Cosmic item (which I bought for 45 Splinters). Unfortunately the Cosmic was an arrow quiver too.
Over the weekend with the +% bonuses, I also used my two vials for +rare and special find, but really didn't get anything of note besides the Unique, so I'm still rocking mostly purple, blue and green gear.
They've definitely improved Hawkeye since I started playing on release, that's for sure. He's not as squishy - and Explosive Arrow (and the Turret) are amazing now.
I've not been keeping up with all the extras, Odin thingies and Runes etc, but most of them looked like you'd need some serious play time to make use. Saw a couple of Runes drop over the weekend too, which are now in my stash.
Love the game, glad to finally finish it. Might consider grabbing a character now and doing another run.
Are you gonna get Deadpool??
-Deadpool-
Member
Now he tells me!
I've only done it the once. Sitting on ~135 Splinters now I think. Still a looooong way short of a Hero.
Yup, definitely. Why?
Barack Lesnar
Banned
Now he tells me!
I've only done it the once. Sitting on ~135 Splinters now I think. Still a looooong way short of a Hero.
Yup, definitely. Why?
Pick a hero you really like (DP?) and try to get to 60 and play end game stuff, it's fun. You don't really have to do the story again, you can just do the quests that give a good bonus like +1 skill points, while leveling up via Legendary Quests.
-Deadpool-
Member
I did a bit of Midtown yesterday, I really liked that. Constant boss spawns and loads of enemies. Seemed like a good way to level up.
When you say I wouldn't have to do the story again, how do you go at early levels? Wouldn't I get whipped with starting gear? The Legendary quests I did yesterday in Midtown were all ~level 30-odd stuff, or do you get different Legendary quests with new Heroes?
Was wondering where your GAF name is from
Well, I posted a bit about the music before but there aren't actually many links around where you can listen to all of it. Still, listen to this and tell me you are not instantly transported to the 90s while playing an arcade or SNES brawler:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQXrud-bDwg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCrDmEvjeGU
Also, the track that plays in Odin's Palace hub sounds very similar to one in LOTRO. Considering it is one that plays on an elven city, I'd say they probably had similar inspiration for it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQXrud-bDwg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCrDmEvjeGU
Also, the track that plays in Odin's Palace hub sounds very similar to one in LOTRO. Considering it is one that plays on an elven city, I'd say they probably had similar inspiration for it.
You have no soul.
Most of the time I just have my own or a podcast in the background (I just mute everything but SFX for them drop sounds) but I find it surprising that after all this time playing, I still enjoy it every now and then. You'd think that going through a story area for the 20th time would make it boring, but it really hasn't for me.
-Deadpool-
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Big Deadpool fan from the early-mid 90's on. Always loved Marvel stuff, so this game was a no-brainer. Just don't have a decent PC haha..
Haha I have voices and sounds on all the time, just not music.
I only keep music on for SP games. For MP games I always turn it off, because I'm in ventrilo
BertleTheTurtle
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I use my own music. I can say for sure it's better than the ingame music.
I bought the Detective Deadpool costume today.
Now I don't have enough G's to buy anything else. Those bonus G's were nice while they lasted.
I bought the Detective Deadpool costume today.
Now I don't have enough G's to buy anything else. Those bonus G's were nice while they lasted.
What bonus G?
BertleTheTurtle
Member
From buying the Deadpool premium pack for $60 when they had it. I forget how much it was but I've been able to buy the Headpool pet and every costume so far with it.
Baron Aloha
A Shining Example
Just downloaded this on Friday, picked Storm, leveled her to 32, and beat the game on Normal.
Wow.
Most fun I've had in an ARPG in a very long time. Wish I would have installed this sooner.
Love how you feel powerful pretty much right out of the gate. Storm's abilities feel so great. She's basically this games version of Diablo 2's sorceress but somehow feels even more awesome.
Found a unique (Biker boots) and Taskmaster Medallion which has over a dozen affixes (awesome!).
Thinking about getting Loki or Cyclops next. Leaning toward Loki atm.
I would totally play this on PS4 also, if it were available.
Wow.
Most fun I've had in an ARPG in a very long time. Wish I would have installed this sooner.
Love how you feel powerful pretty much right out of the gate. Storm's abilities feel so great. She's basically this games version of Diablo 2's sorceress but somehow feels even more awesome.
Found a unique (Biker boots) and Taskmaster Medallion which has over a dozen affixes (awesome!).
Thinking about getting Loki or Cyclops next. Leaning toward Loki atm.
I would totally play this on PS4 also, if it were available.
-Deadpool-
Member
Nice. Did in one weekend what it took me 6-7 months to accomplish haha..
I'd love a PS4 version.
Yo can you buy hero packs from the marvel heroes store and use on the steam version? I assume they just get added to your account? Daredevil hero pack has shadowlands costume in it and it's cheaper than buying the costume straight up lol? It also comes with the hero token to use as ultimate buff if you have him, his stash and 2 more costumes (default and armored), all for $10.
So, anyone knows if I'm good to buy it and use on my steam version?
So, anyone knows if I'm good to buy it and use on my steam version?
I'm not sure.. I think so, but don't know
It worked for the advance pack so I would assume it would work for these but would like to be sure. Those $10 packs are pretty good value if you want a costume in them, was hoping Storm had marvel now in it but no Shadowlands looks awesome tho (actually armored is pretty good too)
Where's Frost at, I bet he knows!
Shadowlands looks awesome tho (actually armored is pretty good too)Where's Frost at, I bet he knows!
Frostinferno
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It worked for the advance pack so I would assume it would work for these but would like to be sure. Those $10 packs are pretty good value if you want a costume in them, was hoping Storm had marvel now in it but no
Where's Frost at, I bet he knows!
Online hero packs work at account level, so yes. Also yes, the Daredevil Hero Pack is a stupidly good deal given the costumes included.
Today, I finally got up to 400 splinters! So I figured it was time to random box, since I can't decide who to get next. Got Wolverine. Not exactly a big fan of wolverine as a character, but I do like his synergy. Might as well level him up to 50.
Also crafted a random costume and got Black Panther Armored. It feels like an upgrade from his default, but I do hate how pure black his costumes are. I mean, yeah, he's BLACK panther, but still, a pet peeve of mine are costumes of a single color.
Also crafted a random costume and got Black Panther Armored. It feels like an upgrade from his default, but I do hate how pure black his costumes are. I mean, yeah, he's BLACK panther, but still, a pet peeve of mine are costumes of a single color.
Haha I knew you knew
thanks dude. Those $10 packs seem like such a nice deal, might get thing too because I want the future foundation costume anyway. Storm, Hawkeye and Scarlet don't have the costumes I want so I'll skip those.Oh by the way, Marvel Base finally fixed the talent builder, it only lets you put 130 points now which is cool
Funny you should say that, I'm the same way, it's why I want wakanda tech because of the splashes of yellow on the costume, or why my favorite DD costume is secret war red and black (although shadowlands looks badass)
edit: crafted a couple more after buying the daredevil and scarlet witch packs and tossing the defaults (again), crafted Im Not Daredevil, which sucks, tossed that and a couple others and crafted Squirrel Girl aviator, that one Ill keep because its good, even if I wont use her for awhile.
Also holy shit at Scarlet Witch Marvel Now costume...err...she got a boob AND a ass job aparently
On Daredevil im surprised how much I like Armored costume, looks really good. Shadowland looks a bit too much like Black Panther, especially zoomed out where you can barely see the red in it >_>Finally got a somewhat workable cosmic build for Gambit, of course as mentioned earlier cosmics are now boned for loot and while he's good in cosmics his lowered offence makes X-defense a bit of a chore.
Have they said when they'll amend cosmic loot? (They just seen to be randomly swinging the pendulum back and forth at the moment)
Have they said when they'll amend cosmic loot? (They just seen to be randomly swinging the pendulum back and forth at the moment)
A developer has been talking about RIF and SIF and how they affect loot, so I might as well copy/paste some of his posts here if some of you guys find that interesting, and people just stop posting non-sense like RNG is RNG and instead point back to how the algorithms came about (sorry for the long post):
It should also be pointed out that while this is just how they work technically, everything is designer controlled, so some artifacts being more common than others, some items never dropping in some zones, etc. are still decisions taken by a designer, still prone to human error (obviously) and there is still a chance that some new items might hinder the chances at other items (while this might not happen now, or ever, there is still the possibility of being designed like that, that is just what I'm trying to say, before anyone brings up tin foil hats and conspiracies).
It also should line up with the idea of the poor effectiveness of pots over shorter periods of time, going by the ticket raffle analogy. It doesn't actually make room for the rarer items to drop more often, but it just boosts everything but the common items across the board, so you'd likely need probably as much time playing to get the rarer stuff as you did before, or boosts it so insignificantly (0.00001 * 1000% is still 0.0001) that you'd need pots on you for hours and hours to get those, but you are more likely dropping the same items only more consistently a rarity higher. I think rarity in other games work differently, but I don't really know. In D3 for example, with the cap to MF you could actually set your clock to a certain rarity and getting a certain amount of legendary/set drops during a set amount of runs. no such thing in MH.
Edit: if you want to read the discussion: http://forums.marvelheroes.com/discussion/66594/server-side-rif-sif/p1 Not that I'd recommend it Most posts are just...
and instead point back to how the algorithms came about (sorry for the long post):Gaz Dev KPatrick said:
It should also be pointed out that while this is just how they work technically, everything is designer controlled, so some artifacts being more common than others, some items never dropping in some zones, etc. are still decisions taken by a designer, still prone to human error (obviously) and there is still a chance that some new items might hinder the chances at other items (while this might not happen now, or ever, there is still the possibility of being designed like that, that is just what I'm trying to say, before anyone brings up tin foil hats and conspiracies
). It also should line up with the idea of the poor effectiveness of pots over shorter periods of time, going by the ticket raffle analogy. It doesn't actually make room for the rarer items to drop more often, but it just boosts everything but the common items across the board, so you'd likely need probably as much time playing to get the rarer stuff as you did before, or boosts it so insignificantly (0.00001 * 1000% is still 0.0001) that you'd need pots on you for hours and hours to get those, but you are more likely dropping the same items only more consistently a rarity higher. I think rarity in other games work differently, but I don't really know. In D3 for example, with the cap to MF you could actually set your clock to a certain rarity and getting a certain amount of legendary/set drops during a set amount of runs. no such thing in MH.
Edit: if you want to read the discussion: http://forums.marvelheroes.com/discussion/66594/server-side-rif-sif/p1 Not that I'd recommend it
Most posts are just...youre right this thing makes no sense. Ive gotten uniques without potions, ive gotten uniques with potions. sometimes i think that you need to play for a couple of hours, exit and then come back. ive done that and had a much better run the second time around. might be coincident, but its worked. Also ive never stacked potions and have gotten i think 10 uniques by now. I think stacking POTIONS doesnt help, there are some that do though. if u want items run MM and XDEF over and over and use a RIF/SIF potion every now and then.
JUST SAYING
JUST SAYING
I don't really care about the algorithm details. All I know is I've gotten hero tokens, costumes, uniques, 10-splinters, etc etc, with and without potions running.
And I know personal real life friends who have gotten all of those things too. So that to me is the definition of "exists but random". Obviously the chances are very low.
And of course they have certain item types drop more frequently than others. Inky, if that's what you mean by "weighted" then sure. But all loot games do it that way and have white/grey items drop more often. I'm not sure if that has been your point throughout this thread regarding weighting?
I just don't understand where you're coming from every time the subject comes up. Even though some item types are more common, I still consider it random by my definition. So to use a very simple mathematical example -- If a game is programmed to drop gray items 90% of the time, and uniques 0.1% of the time, I still consider that random.
The only part I'll semi-agree is how much potions help. I don't think it's a noticeable difference, but that's also why I don't care about them and don't buy them. So it's not an issue.
And I know personal real life friends who have gotten all of those things too. So that to me is the definition of "exists but random". Obviously the chances are very low.
And of course they have certain item types drop more frequently than others. Inky, if that's what you mean by "weighted" then sure. But all loot games do it that way and have white/grey items drop more often. I'm not sure if that has been your point throughout this thread regarding weighting?
I just don't understand where you're coming from every time the subject comes up. Even though some item types are more common, I still consider it random by my definition. So to use a very simple mathematical example -- If a game is programmed to drop gray items 90% of the time, and uniques 0.1% of the time, I still consider that random.
The only part I'll semi-agree is how much potions help. I don't think it's a noticeable difference, but that's also why I don't care about them and don't buy them. So it's not an issue.
this. anyway, we should be getting a valentines day announcement soon right?
My point? Well, right now my point is that I find the way loot works in loot games interesting to understand and talk about. It is one of my favorite genres after all. I don't play this game for efficiency, I think I've established as much. But there are some moving parts to it, and all are by design. I don't like people throwing the RNG is RNG phrase when considering outcomes. It is clear they have a lot of influence over certain aspects and if, say, an item like Pym's Shrinking Serum drops less and people come out and say: RNG is RNG, well, that really says nothing at all, and just becomes grating or obnoxious. I'm more interested in the why, but that rarely gets discussed by the developers, and people look at you funny on forums like you are doing it now.
Why do I have to come up from somewhere? Maybe at different times I come from different places. I didn't post this to complain if that is what you are thinking, just to discuss and have an insight on how it works. When the patch hit, I didn't want to talk about how cosmic terminals felt off, because people were going to come up with responses like that, when in reality they did tinker with it and it wasn't mentioned. Did I feel betrayed by the game or something? No, but I think it is something we could talk about without painting anyone as a whiner or anything. They tinker with this stuff all the time, and yes, while loot is supposed to be random (that's the appeal of the genre after all) it is also somewhat predictable, and that predictability allows for people to notice those changes and wonder what the reasoning was behind it. There is also different types of randomness applied to different kinds of items, so a throwaway phrase meant to cull any discussion behind that process is what bothers me about random item talk. I'm not trying to steer the conversation towards an "I'm not getting a certain item" perspective.
Generally speaking, I've had great luck with the game, and I obviously enjoy playing it a lot or I wouldn't be doing it. But I disagree with you. I think we should care about what things like potions do. This isn't even for me. I don't buy them either and have been saying they are mostly useless. I generally don't use them or don't care about them (other than for XP), but I still feel they should have a more noticeable effect, mainly because they sell them on the store. For real money.
I don't see why I should take a "it doesn't directly affect me, so it isn't an issue" stance about things like that. What's wrong about wanting them to work more, or differently? Or wanting to understand the thought process behind those decisions? If no one really cares about how it works, well, I guess I should just stop posting. I just find it interesting.
Nice runes guide: http://mh-knights-of-valor.enjin.com/runes
Man, this is the kind of thing I want Gaz to be doing on their site. This is great.Runes seem to be a very long term affair, more-so than things like Legendary items. Me like.
Better chances for certain types on specific days? That's surprising. I'll have to buy a crafting stash. I hope there's a G sale coming soon.
there are G sales?
Loot debates are the worst. My friend in Path of Exile had found 5 Exalted Orbs in Domination League. I have never seen one drop, been playing since closed beta.
On the other hand, I managed to 6-link my sword in 22 fusings
Marvel Heroes is soulsuckingly awesome, by the way. My Colossus is lv37, bought a Scarlet Witch yesterday. Saw someone complaining about retcon drops, I found 4 so far.
yeah between drops, quests and cards, im swimming in them. just "wasted" 3 in like 5 minutes trying Ghost Rider specs and imediatly switching back lol
Loot debates are the worst. My friend in Path of Exile had found 5 Exalted Orbs in Domination League. I have never seen one drop, been playing since closed beta.
On the other hand, I managed to 6-link my sword in 22 fusings
Marvel Heroes is soulsuckingly awesome, by the way. My Colossus is lv37, bought a Scarlet Witch yesterday. Saw someone complaining about retcon drops, I found 4 so far.
On the other hand, I managed to 6-link my sword in 22 fusings
Marvel Heroes is soulsuckingly awesome, by the way. My Colossus is lv37, bought a Scarlet Witch yesterday. Saw someone complaining about retcon drops, I found 4 so far.
On the other hand, I managed to 6-link my sword in 22 fusings
Wow. I hate you now.
I saw the video of that guy who chanced 2 uniques in like 20 tries.Hey, I'm glad you liked it. I was wondering how that went. And retcons... you get them for free all the time. Even if they never dropped it is hardly an issue.
I definitely agree with you specifically on this point. LIke we said, the RIF and SIF pots are useless. And I totally think they should NOT sell them for real money.
The XP pots/bars are great and are fair game on the store. People understand those a lot more and can see constant results when using them.
clearly the game wants me to buy deadpool, now I crafted his enhanced pirate costume >_> so pirate and lady, and no actual deadpool. Also I refuse to toss enchanced costumes in the blender so guess im keeping it
lol wtf, are you super lucky in real life always? That's two different 20 dollar costumes
if I was lucky I would be getting costumes I wanted, not random stuff that I dont. sure the price is nice but I wouldnt buy either myself.
but lets see, I crafted:
Enhanced Lady Deadpool
Enhanced Pirate Deadpool
Im Not Daredevil (awful)
Wolverine Feral Something (awful)
Wolverine X-Men Uniform (beyond awful)
Cable X-Force (after buying the Chase costume)
Colossus Acolyte (after buying Pheonix 5)
Human Torch Light Brigade (Torch costumes, like Jean costumes, are almost useless imo)
Squirrel Girl Aviator (this ones good, the only I kept apart from the 2 enchanced)
sure the enhanced ones were good price wise, but I didnt actually want them (well maybe Lady Deadpool). For me lucky would be getting Storm Marvel Now, Black Panther Wakanda Tech, Thing Enhanced (an enhanced I actually want), etc. Im not complaining mind you, but yeah, apart from the price, I dont consider that very lucky (and the price is pointless if i wasnt going to buy them in the first place). Reminds me when I got Ironman from a random box back in that weekend promo...sure I was "lucky" since its a 600 splinter hero, but I dont give 2 fucks about IM so I didnt really care :/
Friend of mine, first costume he crafts, Black Widow Thunderbolts. Now THATS luck
edit: if you can get default costumes in the crafter, and I avoided them, than yeah Ill call myself lucky btw ^_^
I buy Fortune Cards whenever I have 10 cube shards, hoping for blender fodder costume (I dont like any of the mark I costumes), or at least a xp boost potion (but I keep getting RIF potions)
as for costume crafting, you need to have a lvl 20 crafter, and then 3 random costumes and 2 unstable molecules and 200k credits
and how do you get so many costumes to toss in the blender as we call it? usually, we just toss the defaults in there (all characters come with 1 costume if you notice) when we buy a new one for example, and then if the random costume you get from the crafter is shit, it goes in the blender for the next try (so next try you need 2 more now because the 1 you got and didnt want counts towards it)
I crafted so many because I have almost the entire roster and I tossed almost all the default costumes in there, so I actually have a bunch of "naked" heroes atm (they arent actually naked, just have no costume in the costume slot so I cant get the costume bonuses on them), mostly all the level 1s I havent started yet
The stuff like Ymir that drop in norway and lower asgard are for siege cases (an item that mostly gives you a piece of epic gear, but has a chance for a medallion or an artifact). The vendor should be in odin's palace, and you should have gotten a quest for it if you followed the story.
Siege cases aren't very impressive, but spirits of ymir and ivaldi stack high (up to 100), drop fairly frequently, and a worth a good bit, so they're pretty decent for ranking up vendors.
wonder if they will put out a Hulk Fear Itself costume
also, I guess it would be enhanced since he was technically someone else / possessed right? I just realized that means Thing Fear Itself is the same, so he speaks as a villain?
also, I guess it would be enhanced since he was technically someone else / possessed right? I just realized that means Thing Fear Itself is the same, so he speaks as a villain?
Well, just to add to the other posts, leveling your crafter should be your #1 priority either way. Even before just selling items for credits.
holy shit guys... played a bit of Pheonix, my god :O
Im getting the same visceral satisfaction I had on Hulk with his leaps, just in this case, its charging all voer the place and fire and explosions and holy shit! lol
sooooo... is this the one character finally where you pump points into the charge? that shit looks and feels so good.
Im getting the same visceral satisfaction I had on Hulk with his leaps, just in this case, its charging all voer the place and fire and explosions and holy shit! lol
sooooo... is this the one character finally where you pump points into the charge?
that shit looks and feels so good.sooooo... is this the one character finally where you pump points into the charge?
It's up to you. That move does look sweet.
Only thing is you cannot see any of Jean's costumes if doing a constant phoenix build. Same reason I don't like Emma's diamond tree.
I dont like her costumes anyway (well maybe the kinky black one). But man, this is so much fun. Frost! Why didnt you tell me to drop everything and just go play Jean before! Im blaming you for this.
edit: also between her and Ghost Rider, Human Torch will DEFFINATELY be the last character I buy, I get my fire fix from these 2 as it is >_>