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We got any MH experts awake? I need some info on some stuff and I would rather get the info here than the official forums >_>
I'm looking into starting to get legendaries for at least my favorite heroes, I already got some, mostly all wrong but what are you gonna do. I'm not interested in mid maxing, but I would like to know some good ones for these heroes.
So, off the top of my head, I have a Excalibur on Nightcrawler (I'm sure the crit one is better, oh well), the pet one on Colossus because I played him mostly with pets, at least pre-team ups. So I want to unbound that one and give it to Rocket, so I'll need one for Colossus. I have the stupid +1 to a bunch of stats on Ms. Marvel because I played her hybrid, shorty choice in hindsight but I'm not that fussed, I'm especially not fussed enough to waste another 300marks on her. I bought the crit one for Reed for obvious reasons, I have the mental dmg one on Emma also. I think that's all I have, the rest are all the xp/sif one from that event a few months ago, those don't Ben count.
So, let's see, assuming Nightcrawler, Emma, MsMarvel, Reed and Rocket are sorted, what would be some good ones for:
Colossus
Hulk (my Hulk is very tanky mind you)
Surfer
Ironman
Spider-Man
Luke Cage (non summon strangely for me)
Maybe Jean, maybe Rogue, but it's probably too soon for those. I can buy 5 at the moment so let's stick with these for now
I'm looking into starting to get legendaries for at least my favorite heroes, I already got some, mostly all wrong but what are you gonna do. I'm not interested in mid maxing, but I would like to know some good ones for these heroes.
So, off the top of my head, I have a Excalibur on Nightcrawler (I'm sure the crit one is better, oh well), the pet one on Colossus because I played him mostly with pets, at least pre-team ups. So I want to unbound that one and give it to Rocket, so I'll need one for Colossus. I have the stupid +1 to a bunch of stats on Ms. Marvel because I played her hybrid, shorty choice in hindsight but I'm not that fussed, I'm especially not fussed enough to waste another 300marks on her. I bought the crit one for Reed for obvious reasons, I have the mental dmg one on Emma also. I think that's all I have, the rest are all the xp/sif one from that event a few months ago, those don't Ben count.
So, let's see, assuming Nightcrawler, Emma, MsMarvel, Reed and Rocket are sorted, what would be some good ones for:
Colossus
Hulk (my Hulk is very tanky mind you)
Surfer
Ironman
Spider-Man
Luke Cage (non summon strangely for me)
Maybe Jean, maybe Rogue, but it's probably too soon for those. I can buy 5 at the moment so let's stick with these for now
First, do you know you can trade any Legendary you own for 300 odin marks? The only thing you "lose" is the amount of ranks you leveled in it, but at least you get all your marks back.
Iron Man -- everyone gets Mkraan
Luke Cage -- I use Axe, but I believe Excalibur might be slightly better
SS -- I use Cosmic Control Rod, but I don't think that's ideal for raiding. I like CCR for soloing though
AdawgDaFAB
Member
My game glitched out and won't let me pick up the 3 Odin Marks dropped from the event's daily box.
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=309334443
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=309334458
It dropped there and I can't pick it up. D:
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=309334443
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=309334458
It dropped there and I can't pick it up. D:
Yes I know that, I said in the post I have to remove the pet one from Colossus to give it to Rocket
Ploid 3.0
Member
Do you know exactly how many odin marks you had before opening the gift box? Sometimes I see omega globes or other items that spawn after doing things and they can't be picked up. It seem like a glitch that don't remove the graphic after you auto pick up the item. Health, Spirit, Spirit/health (purple), Odin, Omega, experience globes fall into that category. They all seem able to glitch like that.
Also about my Test Center problem. I fixed it by installing the Test Center where I had it installed the first time (C:\Program Files (x86)\Gazillion Entertainment\Marvel Heroes (Test Center)). There were already 13gigs of files in that folder but the main exe and uninstaller stuff was gone so maybe it was a bad uninstall.
Also about my Test Center problem. I fixed it by installing the Test Center where I had it installed the first time (C:\Program Files (x86)\Gazillion Entertainment\Marvel Heroes (Test Center)). There were already 13gigs of files in that folder but the main exe and uninstaller stuff was gone so maybe it was a bad uninstall.
AdawgDaFAB
Member
I'm certain that I was already at 353, but I don't have any way to prove it.
At least the 10 OM drop I just used worked right.
I'll do it, but no poll. Just log in ~8 EST or so and I'll invite people.
message support and brevik telling them the story and showing the picture.
PS anyone got a ETA on new TC?
Colossus - Excalibur
Hulk - Excalibur
Surfer - Cosmic Control Rod
Ironman - Power Cosmic/M'Kraan
Spider-man - Excalibur for melee builds, Gungnir for hybrid/ranged, I use Axe of Ares cause fuck it.
Luke Cage - Excalibur
If you're pet-based, Neptune obviously. M'Kraan crystal can be subbed in for basically anyone for a nice mix of offensive/defense stats/spirit management. Gungnir can be subbed in for most anything as a purely offensive tool, but generally loses to Excalibur/Cosmic Control Rod/Warlock's eye except on hybrids. Power Cosmic looks to be best for anyone with hybrid damage but has a prohibitive cost.
Axe of Ares is largely an inferior Excalibur unless you're (obviously) not melee like Punisher. Axe also works for hybrid melee/ranged like Spiderman/Captain/Deadpool, but most hybrids still have way more melee damage focus than ranged.
Casket and Norn Stones are horrible. Shield of Perseus is great for defensive builds which unfortunately suck in this game so meh.
Golden Bow can be good provided the ranged hero you're using doesn't have much/any natural attack-speed in their kit/uniques. I can't think of one like that though.
Ultimate Nullifier is best for Wolverine when Ulti'ing and PvP'ers and that's it.
Ploid 3.0
Member
I'm not sure if I collected the items from my glitches as well. So you're probably correct and we lose out on those auto pick up items that just stays when we walk over them. Oh well.
Actually, turning a legendary back into 300 marks cost a retcon device.
Unbinding it resets the level and costs almost nothing, 10k credits I think.
Dat info overload. I guess I should get rid of the stones on Ms.Marvel and get her a proper one. She, like my Spider-Man, has a fucked up hybrid build where I'm mostly in melee range using...ranged spells, if that makes sense >_>
Does anyone have any excess of the following artifacts, they are my go-to on most heroes and I'm dry :/
Advanced Super Soldier Serum
Advanced Starstone Tooth
Advanced Kung Fu
Advanced Cyttorak
Oh I didn't know there were two different recipes!
I get the super soldier serum from time to time, with awful rolls. I'll keep an eye out.
OK, I am a bit confused. I have been maining Star-Lord at 60 and gearing him up using an outlaw/commander build.
According to many builds online they say I should be using apoc armor instead of his unique for that slot and I don't understand why. I just got an apoc armor drop and it doesn't seem like an improvement? Maybe I don't understand how the stats work on it? Here are the two items in comparison. Which should I use for my build?
According to many builds online they say I should be using apoc armor instead of his unique for that slot and I don't understand why. I just got an apoc armor drop and it doesn't seem like an improvement? Maybe I don't understand how the stats work on it? Here are the two items in comparison. Which should I use for my build?
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OK, I am a bit confused. I have been maining Star-Lord at 60 and gearing him up using an outlaw/commander build.
According to many builds online they say I should be using apoc armor instead of his unique for that slot and I don't understand why. I just got an apoc armor drop and it doesn't seem like an improvement? Maybe I don't understand how the stats work on it? Here are the two items in comparison. Which should I use for my build?
Apoc armor has higher health.
They both have +1 all skills.
You rolled low on % to avoid attacks, but they both max at 4%.
Apoc armor has better -spirit reduction (factor in +energy)
+1 Energy = 160 damage rating, so you're looking at ~500ish energy damage rating, your slot 2 has none.
Durability is a crappy stat. Health regen is ~59 health twice a second or just over 1/4 as strong as a 400 life on hit core (assuming constant hitting). Not exactly setting the world on fire.
I have no idea what skills Starlord focuses on but I'm guessing (at best) the two listed are considered "layers" and not main-DPS skills. Layers you never really focus on boosting as their DPS (usually) accounts for less than 50% of your "main-DPS" skill. +Damage rating effects everything, including your main DPS skill which is why it's preferred for slot 2 where you can't get +skills on cosmic gear anyway (only "Grant X skill" is found on slot 2).
Will do but there is no urgency, it's just artifacts I like to have since I have every character and atm I'm out (I finally got one super soldier to drop the other day), for example if I want to use one on Rogue or Jean I can't, I have no cyttorak for Rogue for example (I assume she's physical dmg).
Again, it's just for stocking purposes, so only if you have a surplus (like I have of the pet dmg one for example, if anyone needs)
Thank you for taking the time to write that up for me. I had figured that the +2 energy was where I was going to see my big gains as it would effect all of my skills. Thanks!
Test center is up.
Feeling very whelmed by reviewed Jean on first pass. Superficially the improvements are there: dash, signature looks very good. But they took away her bubble. I just. Yeah, you can deflect (every 4s) with kinetic wave, and psychic corona and phoenix corona can be turned on, but... it looks and feels like they took away Jean's bubble.
As for the single target situation, I sure hope dummy TTK isn't comparable to live because my psychic hammer has a dramatically worse time. Kinetic wave is no longer in competition with its cooldown. Phoenix drain is the presumed replacement- a static channel- and it's indeed a bit faster than hammer but burns through all my spirit on a River of the Soul character. Other bad signs include the reworked confusion is no longer a bubble either, but a single area attack.
Moving on to Rogue.
Feeling very whelmed by reviewed Jean on first pass. Superficially the improvements are there: dash, signature looks very good. But they took away her bubble. I just. Yeah, you can deflect (every 4s) with kinetic wave, and psychic corona and phoenix corona can be turned on, but... it looks and feels like they took away Jean's bubble.
As for the single target situation, I sure hope dummy TTK isn't comparable to live because my psychic hammer has a dramatically worse time. Kinetic wave is no longer in competition with its cooldown. Phoenix drain is the presumed replacement- a static channel- and it's indeed a bit faster than hammer but burns through all my spirit on a River of the Soul character. Other bad signs include the reworked confusion is no longer a bubble either, but a single area attack.
Moving on to Rogue.
Under-whelmed? Or over-whelmed?
From the post content, under-whelmed
Just whelmed.
First glance at Rogue: the "Marvelous Physique" tree feels kind of inconsequential. The powers are well animated- a swooping uppercut in particular- but I guess I hope I can find more impactful powers elsewhere. There is a death from above move; Rogue lifts a chunk of rubble and slams it for aoe knockdown and vulnerability. But I could see this tree really just being 1 point wonders- the death from above, the dash, the weaken, a passive, flight, a spirit draining basic.
Steal from friends has the signature, which is basically a whirling dervish of energy damage with a burst at the end. You can move during the channel. I dunno, maybe this is good.
Steal from foes has two fixed powers. Drain Life, an aoe dot and self regen, is pretty cool in concept but a bit slow in execution and the rate or regen needs to be tested. Rogue's self buff, Gloves Off, is pretty godly on paper: 15s/60s uptime, 1% dmg returned as health, damage rating and attack speed that scale with point investment.
Now I've got to go figure out how to steal some powers; the rest of my tree is empty.
Should I bother to write about friends powers- haven't they all been revealed? I'll just list some team-ups perhaps first but I have notes on all I've found so far.
She-hulk: Damage and attack speed self-buff on 8s/24s cycle. Plus growth visual. This could become a staple.
Gamora: passive bonuses to melee and ranged damage, not bad.
Drax: brutal rating, brutral damage, brutal chance- what's not to like?
She-hulk: Damage and attack speed self-buff on 8s/24s cycle. Plus growth visual. This could become a staple.
Gamora: passive bonuses to melee and ranged damage, not bad.
Drax: brutal rating, brutral damage, brutal chance- what's not to like?
Yes and I don't know.
Cap's passive grants 2% block chance.
Colossus's toggle turns the osmium skin on/off visually. *bows
Rogue turns metal? If so bow indeed
Does she get claws from wolverine or turn blue from Kurt?
Yes, bows all around. Confirmed, she gets claws out passively with Wolverine's power on bar. Pretty sure not blue from Kurt; it's just blink strike.
I like Dempsey Roll on her; it fits.
No blue fur from Kurt? Pre order canceled!
Wait I have the advance pack...refund incoming!
Oh btw for those wondering, Cyclops pet from the unique has no matching costume on Emma's old man Logan costume, as expected. Phoenix Five still the superior Emma costume
Lord Phol
Member
While this is all true and apoc armor will most likely be the better choice I'd still like to point out a few things. First is that Quill is really squishie and has no inert means of healing himself (besides the fire basic which no one is using). While they might sound inconsequential by themselves the defense stats on his slot 2 unique and especially the proc can be very useful for surviving harder content, even the 8 points to spartoi grit helps out a bit. Second is that while orbital strike isn't his main dps skill it is a big part of his kit, +8 to it is quite the damage boost.
That being said, from a pure dps perspective apoc armor will most likely beat it out. Though I have no way to test out by how much myself.
Frostinferno
Member
Hmm...
The keys to Rogue's power tags are those powers with a "Core" tag. Every other category is limited to two I believe, but you can have unlimited Core powers. Examples so far: Scarlet Witch's hex bolts, a dive that stealths from Black Widow (some powers are kind of made up), teleport from Living Laser (pretty awesome), and of course Rhino's charge.
She gets his tail when she ults.
I took her to 52 and I actually like how she turned out. You do her enemies take more damage spell, then spray her cone for DoT, dive right into the middle, Sudden Dread, Kneel Before Me, minion buff, and then clean up (or Drain Psyche a boss).
I just like diving into a group and using her Dread and sig as it stops enemies from attacking. It's an awesome feeling stopping Juggernaut mid charge and allowing everyone else to just pound on him.
DrAg0nBoY
Member
Ok I found out that I was an idiot for gifting uniques to the vendor for XP >.<. Had sooooo much uniques, bah.
On another note. Gonna bring Hawkeye to 60 today (probably) and don't know who to play then. I narrowed my choice to Loki, Spider Man, Storm and Star-Lord. So who do you suggest me to try next?
On another note. Gonna bring Hawkeye to 60 today (probably) and don't know who to play then. I narrowed my choice to Loki, Spider Man, Storm and Star-Lord. So who do you suggest me to try next?
I liked Spider-Man the best (because I like melee), but Storm is beastly once you get to 40s. Don't have Star-Lord.
I logged off last night to try to bypass the bodyslide cooldown and test more powers. Now my Test Center is stuck in an endless Repair File loop.
xrayregime
Member
Has anyone seen the passive effects of the She-Hulk team-up? I'm looking to see if anyone took a screenshot from test center but I haven't had any luck so far.
Test Center is still saying Unable to load metafile and I can't find a way to fix it. I looked in the forums and nothing. t_t
How do you repair manually the patcher? There is a button somewhere?
Did you love Hawkeye ??