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Marvel Rivals director says Sony flop Concord didn't offer any "unique value" for players

jason10mm

Gold Member
And morale is very important
And the female characters always wonder why the guys let them go first when climbing ladders or crawling through ventilation ducts :p

Any superhero headquarters really ought to be a cesspool of hormones to rival the Olympic Village and just LITTERED with vials of HGH, anabolic steroids, and tubs of creatine and protein powder everywhere :p
 

Zacfoldor

Member
It isn't true.

No other game this big was also this woke.

That is a unique value to the woke community of gamers, if they actually existed, but they don't. Not in a large quantity. It's just us incels who buy shit outside of madden and fuck fuck call of duty, so I'm not sure why anyone believes some huge woke audience exists outside of their minds. They don't. The types of games the woke want to play, you would hate, because they are casino games and baby games for cell phones. Not many who are truly woke plays the real shit, so you get this backlash. Even the people who are woke on forums don't actually spend their money on stuff like this, they are too busy saving the world from incels to boot up a PS5.

Especially internationally where woke is even less accepted.

If there was a huge woke core gamer audience they would have been all over this bullshit, but it world record flopped DESPITE that unique advantage. Turned out not to be such an advantage when there is no woke audience for it.
 
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AzekZero

Member
Concord felt like it was pitching a PG-13 television CGI slop show with a $40 entry fee. I think the collapse of Overwatch 1/2's narrative side made me extra wary of a narrative driven hero shooter as well.

Marvel Rivals on the other hand was free entry and they maximized instant gratification with an excellent roster, soundtrack and visual design. I think you need that to get players hooked on the gameplay loop. Reminds me of the League of Legends salt mines, in a good way.
 
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Arsic

Loves his juicy stink trail scent
The game is brilliant and a lot of fun.

Just wish role queue was a thing for ranked. This needs 2-2-2 as a must. Matches are brutal if one team does this and another decides 1 tank 1 healer 4 dps. Their cheeks get clapped.

Also I hate Hawkeye and black widow. Too many wannabe boomheadshot wannabes going 4 kills 25 deaths while I’m front lining as peni going 40 kills deep sweating like I’m in the god damn desert.
 
It isn't true.

No other game this big was also this woke.

That is a unique value to the woke community of gamers, if they actually existed, but they don't. Not in a large quantity. It's just us incels who buy shit outside of madden and fuck fuck call of duty, so I'm not sure why anyone believes some huge woke audience exists outside of their minds. They don't. The types of games the woke want to play, you would hate, because they are casino games and baby games for cell phones. Not many who are truly woke plays the real shit, so you get this backlash. Even the people who are woke on forums don't actually spend their money on stuff like this, they are too busy saving the world from incels to boot up a PS5.

Especially internationally where woke is even less accepted.

If there was a huge woke core gamer audience they would have been all over this bullshit, but it world record flopped DESPITE that unique advantage. Turned out not to be such an advantage when there is no woke audience for it.
Don't use "incels" and "us" in the same sentence man... I'm definitely not into this so called woke shit, but definitely not an "incel" in any sense of the word :messenger_tears_of_joy:
What a cringe loser term.......
 

EN250

Member
While this might be true, neither does a live service marvel game.
Difference is they can milk this trash with the vast majority of legacy well known, recognizable and fan favorite characters like Storm, Venom, Spider-Man and others, while Concord only had one if not, the worst character disigns I have ever witnessed and who no one cared about :messenger_tears_of_joy:
 
Im going to hazard a guess and say you havent put many hours into the game?
Just to give a heads up, there's a 75% chance that Rush2112 Rush2112 is not going to respond to your post nor any of the other responses he received. His posting habit always seems to be 1 or 2 posts per thread and that's it.

I would really like for him to prove me wrong, but at this point it's better to just give his takes an emoji reaction and move on.
 
This game is grabbing people (like me) who never had an interest in OW to begin with.

Using the marvel IP for this kind of game was genius. My friends are playing it, coworkers are playing it, friends children are playing it. Almost everyone I know has it installed.
 
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ByWatterson

Member
Nobody cared enough to play the free beta either. That was the point they should’ve delayed it and either retooled it as a free to play game or pulled the plug. It would’ve been another Hyenas or something that people barely remember. Could’ve avoided the massive embarrassment that Concord turned out to be.

I mean there's an argument that the free beta was hampered by the consumer knowledge of the eventual price tag, but......yeah. It was doomed no matter what. That's why Sony canceled it. They ran the numbers and figured out, surely, that not even FTP would or would have saved it. It had a toxic mix of bad character design, informed by unpopular politics, and the strident confidence of a team of fanatics.

It was smug, derivative, and worst of all - boring.
 
It isn't true.

No other game this big was also this woke.

That is a unique value to the woke community of gamers, if they actually existed, but they don't. Not in a large quantity. It's just us incels who buy shit outside of madden and fuck fuck call of duty, so I'm not sure why anyone believes some huge woke audience exists outside of their minds. They don't. The types of games the woke want to play, you would hate, because they are casino games and baby games for cell phones. Not many who are truly woke plays the real shit, so you get this backlash. Even the people who are woke on forums don't actually spend their money on stuff like this, they are too busy saving the world from incels to boot up a PS5.

Especially internationally where woke is even less accepted.

If there was a huge woke core gamer audience they would have been all over this bullshit, but it world record flopped DESPITE that unique advantage. Turned out not to be such an advantage when there is no woke audience for it.
The problem with this logic is the expectation for anyone who likes woke video games to enjoy every single woke video game, when I've only ever seen that sort of behavior from sports gamers with sports games.
 

R6Rider

Gold Member
Unique "value"

Concord had unique characters, but nothing of value.
Like it or not even if this was a literal reskin of OW but with Marvel characters and powers that are reminiscent of the comic counterparts that would be unique value.

I literally forgot all the characters names from Concord already, but tell me Magneto, Wolverine etc etc.....and you got my attention.
Exactly, value is subjective. You missed the entire point.
 
Marvel has been so played out over the last two decades that I really don't care about it. It doesn't help that the gameplay isn't that great either.
 

Gojiira

Member
Were that true, people would drop it ASAP.
Alot of Marvel IP games have flopped, so its not like Marvel IP is a golden ticket.

Yes, the Marvel IP got people through the door, the game kept people in the bar.
Nah, as it stands right now its a free for all of overpowered characters. Once the nerfs hit and the novelty wears off it will be quickly abandoned.
You forget we’re in the honeymoon phase, that’ll wear off eventually.
 
While this has nothing to do with video games directly, the New York Times basically put out an article that said, "Diversity focused Hollywood will be seen as odd trend in the history of cinema and extremely dated for that era". Source (Seriously, the NY Times of all pubs is calling this shit "cringe")

I am thinking this more and more about video games that this DEI focused or Social Activisim video game trend will be viewed years from now as that odd time where the entire industry got weird and preachy. And many games were worse off for it.

Seeing how more and more devs are becoming comfortable dunking on games that were clearly using social activism as a big component, yeah.... soon it will be full on dunking season by the industry itself. "Oh, we always hated how preachy those games and the devs were but... it was a different time, yah know? You had to play along to get along.... " What happens when the entire industry becomes chuds?
 
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Neolombax

Member
Lets be real, Marvel Rivals is Overwatch in 3rd person, there is no innovation. Sure its cool to shit on Concord but it failed because they pushed the DEI agendas too far that their characters looked like shit. The gameplay was fine. You're working on a well known IP that is also F2P with characters that look appealing.
 
The problem with concord is obvious. A game made by numbers and not by passion is clear to see. It had nothing unique, interesting or creative about it. I could genuinely have seen that game being set in the guardians of the galaxy universe. I think ChatGPT wrote the design document because it was soulless - and when your audience says we aren't looking forward to this for these reasons and you effectively say, fuck you we aren't changing it... Well...

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ArtHands

Thinks buying more servers can fix a bad patch
He’s jealous that Concord is the future of Playstation but Marvel Rivals isn’t
 
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