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Marvel vs Capcom 3: Fate of Two Worlds |OT3| Self-Control Support Group
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Karsticles
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I'm honestly too intimidated by GAF mods to make a thread about anything. :-/
Ever since ranking up to 4th lord, I haven't been able to beat anybody, so I've been deliberately losing to try to rank back down face opponents who are as bad as I am, but it's taking forever. I assumed a short losing streak would send me back, but so far I've had no luck. Any tips?
edit: fuck, people started disconnecting on me rather than perfecting me. I'll never rank down now
edit: fuck, people started disconnecting on me rather than perfecting me. I'll never rank down now
sixteen-bit
Member
That was great.Tobe1 said:
I have done all the Dante missions and I did them a long time ago so my memory is going to be a bit hazy.Sheppard said:
I don't remember this one being that difficult at all aside from introducing the bold jump mechanic. I think the combo at the end is just Cold Shower -> Stinger -> Bold attack -> Killer Bee. Just let Dante jump enough after the bold attack (it just causes Dante to cancel Stinger into a jump) to follow up with Killer Bee at an appropriate height. It shouldn't be that hard just make sure there is decent distance between you and the corner so you don't get crossed up or anything like that.
Zissou said:Ever since ranking up to 4th lord, I haven't been able to beat anybody, so I've been deliberately losing to try to rank back down face opponents who are as bad as I am, but it's taking forever. I assumed a short losing streak would send me back, but so far I've had no luck. Any tips?
edit: fuck, people started disconnecting on me rather than perfecting me. I'll never rank down now
Why not enjoy the jump in competition and use it to improve? I'd love to be at a point where I fought nothing but killers.
I would also suggest to continue to try your best. You will improve, even while getting destroyed. And there is no better feeling than beating a cosmic lord!
It will also encourage you to improve your game. MvC3 isn't like Street Fighter where you can get away with knowing a handful of combos and have a general footsie skills. If you want to do well you have to have pre-planned setups to open up your opponent. Take your team, go into training mode and figure out ways to get in, corner setups, etc.
It will also encourage you to improve your game. MvC3 isn't like Street Fighter where you can get away with knowing a handful of combos and have a general footsie skills. If you want to do well you have to have pre-planned setups to open up your opponent. Take your team, go into training mode and figure out ways to get in, corner setups, etc.
QisTopTier
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I don't know why, but I just find it hilarious. It totally sounds like one of those inspirational film parodies xDTobe1 said:
i remember getting beat down the first time i got 4th lord. i kept on playing through and eventually i got to the point where i would win enough to not get ranked down. although i was far too low on meter and didn't feel like building it all back up again so i just ranked down but i plowed my way though 5th lord when i did and improved. when i got back down to 4th lord again i pretty much made my way though it with no problems. im currently 1st lord and building my meter whenever i have time to play.Zissou said:
shaowebb
Member
I can't even get a chance to rank up because the matchmaking is so ass. I don't even receive ranked matches unless they're against guys around 3rd to Cosmic lord. ITs how I got forced out of my pitiful 9th ranger rank after disappearing for a few weeks. I pretty much gave up on the online in this game after that. Couldn't even get started.
Karsticles
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Correct.you can face down dark phoenix mano a mano but you can't make a thread on GAF?!
Just set your rank to "any" when searching, and you'll fight people all over the place.Ever since ranking up to 4th lord, I haven't been able to beat anybody, so I've been deliberately losing to try to rank back down face opponents who are as bad as I am, but it's taking forever. I assumed a short losing streak would send me back, but so far I've had no luck. Any tips?
edit: fuck, people started disconnecting on me rather than perfecting me. I'll never rank down now
I end up playing player matches more than anything most of the time, because waiting 5+ minutes between games trying to find an opponent gets old fast.
If I have one major complaint about fighting games (and shooters, for that matter) of this generation it's that they match making is horrible, yet no companies seem to even put it on their radar to fix.
If I have one major complaint about fighting games (and shooters, for that matter) of this generation it's that they match making is horrible, yet no companies seem to even put it on their radar to fix.
My proposed fan movelist for Vergil.
Everything in the post, Vergil is capable of doing in DMC3 as either a playable character, a boss or as Nelo Angelo in DMC1/DMC3. So it's all "in character".
Everything in the post, Vergil is capable of doing in DMC3 as either a playable character, a boss or as Nelo Angelo in DMC1/DMC3. So it's all "in character".
Karsticles
Member
Viscant basically had the lamest team there is.
If you just want pure, 100% keepaway though, and no Haggar assist, try:
Magneto/Sentinel/Dormammu.
Call drones, spam Disruptor, Magnetic Shockwave any mistakes, and if you have a lot of meter and your opponent calls an assist, DHC Shockwave -> Hyper Sentinel Force -> Chaotic Flame. All three will deal full damage; dead assist.
If Magneto dies, just try to do what you can with Sentinel; cover his s.S by calling Dark Hole at the same time. Once Sentinel dies, burn X-Factor with Dormammu and flood the screen with Stalking Flares.
If you're not a fan of Dormammu, consider replacing him with Amaterasu's Bloom assist, and just Magnetic Shockwave everything.
If you just want pure, 100% keepaway though, and no Haggar assist, try:
Magneto/Sentinel/Dormammu.
Call drones, spam Disruptor, Magnetic Shockwave any mistakes, and if you have a lot of meter and your opponent calls an assist, DHC Shockwave -> Hyper Sentinel Force -> Chaotic Flame. All three will deal full damage; dead assist.
If Magneto dies, just try to do what you can with Sentinel; cover his s.S by calling Dark Hole at the same time. Once Sentinel dies, burn X-Factor with Dormammu and flood the screen with Stalking Flares.
If you're not a fan of Dormammu, consider replacing him with Amaterasu's Bloom assist, and just Magnetic Shockwave everything.
lol you know it. get ready for even worse zoning in ultimate.Tobe1 said:fuck it time to be lame as shit and win by time out. sick of all these new zoning players
edit: somehow i feel smurf is feeling my pain and he is laughing
any recommendations for a lame team but im keeping magneto cause he can zone quite well.
i'm actually really excited to fight other really good zoning teams. you should give trish a try. she can be a really good zoner.
shaowebb
Member
Dahbomb said:
I love the classics
I also remember running into a guy running Doom/Magneto/ Deadpool once online.
He ran finger lasers w/disruptors and would swap to Deadpool's shot occasionally. It was infuriating considering I was using my old Haggar/Ryu/ Sentinel team. I had to hard drive to get in on him eventually.
Karsticles
Member
Deadpool is seriously underrated in general. Great character. With a lot of BS being removed, I expect him to be more prominent.
A part of me wonders if Dr. Strange can handle Dormammu; his rushdown is better than Strange's, and Dormammu's normals destroy projectiles. I wonder if Dormammu and Sentinel can destroy his little glyphs.Dr. Strange works on/is going to be on so many teams... And I fucking love it.
Glyphs can be destroyed right?
If they buff up Shuma then he might be a counter pick to both Phoenix and Dr Strange.
Deadpool is criminally overused online and in casuals yet criminally underused in tournaments and high level play. Also, I am EXTREMELY positive that they are going to give his LVL3 counter meter removing ability too like Phoenix Wright's LVL3. In fact, I am seeing this trend with a some other hypers too (Ghost Rider's LVL3 removes meters too). Should be another way to deal with Phoenix, try to get her into one of those LVL3s.
If they buff up Shuma then he might be a counter pick to both Phoenix and Dr Strange.
Deadpool is criminally overused online and in casuals yet criminally underused in tournaments and high level play. Also, I am EXTREMELY positive that they are going to give his LVL3 counter meter removing ability too like Phoenix Wright's LVL3. In fact, I am seeing this trend with a some other hypers too (Ghost Rider's LVL3 removes meters too). Should be another way to deal with Phoenix, try to get her into one of those LVL3s.
~Devil Trigger~
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Deadpool is deceptively not easy to use or build a team around. Combination of low health and:
- outside of standing and crouching L and Overhead, his normals are mediocre to bad(bad mostly goes to his air to air). Plus low damage Hypers
- Slow dash and lack of air dash doesn't help his rush down, when he needs to get in. Teleport is ok sometimes.
But i like the guy, ima keep playing him, His XFactors are great, great OTG, a couple of infinites, 2 good Assist you can work with, and fun/great/dangerous projectile game.
Yo Mama!
- outside of standing and crouching L and Overhead, his normals are mediocre to bad(bad mostly goes to his air to air). Plus low damage Hypers
- Slow dash and lack of air dash doesn't help his rush down, when he needs to get in. Teleport is ok sometimes.
But i like the guy, ima keep playing him, His XFactors are great, great OTG, a couple of infinites, 2 good Assist you can work with, and fun/great/dangerous projectile game.
Yo Mama!
Deadpool has a pretty good wave dash, nice speed/coverage and goes under a ton of stuff. Some of his moves do have a ton of recovery frames though, you really have to be careful with your block strings.
I don't think you need to do Bold cancel after the X Factor. The combo should just be Million Dollars XF cancel Teleport, j.S. You should be X factoring right before the last twirling attack hits of the hyper.
I don't think you need to do Bold cancel after the X Factor. The combo should just be Million Dollars XF cancel Teleport, j.S. You should be X factoring right before the last twirling attack hits of the hyper.
sixteen-bit
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Tunes put me in the mood for SoRRCPS2 said:
biosnake20
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Sorry if old but, if trons drill hits phoenix and kills her it negates the dark phoenix transformation.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjWnYN-MmKs&feature=youtube_gdata
I think it has to be her drill assist though instead of doing it with her on point.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjWnYN-MmKs&feature=youtube_gdata
I think it has to be her drill assist though instead of doing it with her on point.
Karsticles
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Haha, ggs. I got better at opening you up with her when rushing as time went on - a lot more overheads used post-teleport. That Dark Phoenix blockstring is hilarious - can you believe that TK Overdrive L is +2 on block, and her c.L has 3 frames of startup? I can just do c.L, c.M, TK Overdrive L all day and gain huge meter while dealing chip unless you pushblock it perfectly, and then I'm just a dash and a c.L away from being back in there doing it again. Normal Phoenix unfortunately has to work a lot harder.
I was also really happy that I did my Phoenix bnb once under pressure, and did some other versions of it a few other times, instead of my panicky c.LMHS, sj.MMH, f+H, S. Slooowly getting better.
I think the big problem with handling her on point is that she's easy to kill, but it still requires meter, and my opponent doesn't have a way of getting meter besides getting shot at, which isn't very desirable. With the characters you used though, here are some tricks that other people have killed me with in the past:
Hulk: Gamma Charge H, cancel into Gamma Crush as soon as I start to shoot a fireball.
Taskmaster: wavedash under me and Legion Arrow MH
Storm: chase and spam Lighting Attack - it moves her fast enough to catch me before TK Shot H comes out a good portion of the time
biosnake20
Member
Champ is gonna body him if thats true.USD said:
Infinite Justice
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USD said:
I wonder what lead up to this?
Karsticles said:
very important thing about phoenix is not only thinking who is the character on point but the character that comes next (ideally phoenix players must kill 2 and a half characters before regular phoenix, well at least that's my goal) , DHC'ing can cause a lot of trouble to phoenix (haven't happened to me but i constantly use it against other phoenix users)
storm's hail super is 1 frame if DHC'ed, thus creating a scenario where phoenix zoning is the best option can probably be the worst, example: wolverine vs phoenix, sure phoenix going to spam salty balls all day long but a smart berserker charge into gravity squeeze or any full screen super for that matter means trouble to phoenix.
this is the principal of any good anti-phoenix team, example: jwong's wolverine/storm/akuma can use this. a really good point character, a good phoenix punish, godlike assist.
Karsticles
Member
FYI Tobe, the context of our discussion is me using Phoenix on point. So, while your advice is good in general, it does not much apply to this specific situation.
Yup. Smoothviper doesn't stand a chancebiosnake20 said:
If your dumb enough to get caught by her gun moves, you deserve to lose meter. I think that, should it not be in the middle/end of a combo, those should steal a bit of meter instantly if she should get one of those meter-stealing moves, though I think she's fine in that dept.Dahbomb said:
Karsticles
Member
I think meter-stealing is becoming way too common. As someone who plays a meter-heavy team, I would sometimes rather die than burn a bar of meter with one of my characters. It's just that precious to me. It's a trend that is really more in favor of rushdown. Wolverine doesn't give a crap about how much meter he has. Dormammu does.
sixteen-bit
Member
Was this posted?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=cjWnYN-MmKs
No one cares about this? I guess because nobody uses that assist.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=cjWnYN-MmKs
No one cares about this? I guess because nobody uses that assist.
ThatCrazyGuy
Member
USD said:
YES, if this happens. Shit talk galore.