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Marvel vs Capcom 3: Fate of Two Worlds |OT3| Self-Control Support Group
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Karsticles
Member
It's honestly second-hand knowledge given to me from She-Hulk players, so I could be wrong.
Since I play Dormammu though, I'm used to just dying when my first combo attempt fails - lol. I looked it up though, and holy crap Iron Man's s.S is -13 on block! Ridiculous.
He's getting buffs to both, though. Dark Matter can't just be canceled into Mass Change, but you can cancel into Purification, allowing Dormammu to control a horizontal and a vertical axis simultaneously. He can also now charge Dark Spells in the air, which means a lot of Dormammu players are going to be superjumping and trying to get 1D2C ready for endless hellfire storms against some characters. His backward ground dash is also much faster, indicating that they want us to be able to get away a bit easier.
Haggar won Evo though! :-O
I used to be the same way, but now I don't even like playing characters that can't tri-dash.
He is called "Dr. Strange".
AFAIK you do d,d.S, cancel it (with S?), and then launch. There might be a micro-move involved or something during all that.
~Devil Trigger~
In favor of setting Muslim women on fire
My trick is as soon as i press L(for Torpedo) i buffer Down Down, and when Torpedo hits, I press S 3 times(1 for Runner's Start, 1 for Runner's start cancel, 1 for Launch)Kimosabae said:
Look out for hit stun deterioration, If u him em with a long combo beforehand your opponent will flip out early out of Torpedo
Going by frame data, Zero has several moves that are slightly faster than Wesker's - his crouching light, his standing medium, his standing heavy and his launcher are all faster, but only by a single frame. Basically, the victor comes down to who presses the buttons first, or who presses the right button for the right situation.
Recently I've been messing around in the lab a lot with Dante, trying to figure out some additional Devil Trigger uses. I hadn't realized his flight started so fast. It's the second fastest flight in the game, just a single frame behind MODOKs at 11 frame start up. Flight combos are pretty cool with him and do some decent damage... but what's really interesting me is something similar to Magneto's flight cancel during blockstrings. Since flight starts so fast, after a Heavy attack he'll be in flight mode before they're out of block stun - unless they pushblock of course. But something interesting is that Dante's Lightning Bolt and Vortex cannot be pushblocked at all. In flight mode, he can do three Lightning Bolts and end with a Vortex for the plus frames on block. After the Vortex he can immediately do a j.L on the recovery frames and then a c.L after a near instant landing, or just go c.L instead of the j.L for a fast guess on their part. You don't even have to do it that way, either. You could throw some attacks in between the Lightning Bolts, you could cancel the flight for going low immediately, or just go all out on the chip with four lightning bolts. Hell, if you time the Vortex just before Devil Trigger runs out, once he recovers from the animation there will be a flash of light that obscures Dante as he transforms back to normal, so it's a complete guessing game as to whether the next attack will be high or low. There's a lot of potential in there for tons of tricky stuff with Dante's flight mode... all I need to do is try it out in a match. But hey, it sounds good at least! Yay theory crafting!
Recently I've been messing around in the lab a lot with Dante, trying to figure out some additional Devil Trigger uses. I hadn't realized his flight started so fast. It's the second fastest flight in the game, just a single frame behind MODOKs at 11 frame start up. Flight combos are pretty cool with him and do some decent damage... but what's really interesting me is something similar to Magneto's flight cancel during blockstrings. Since flight starts so fast, after a Heavy attack he'll be in flight mode before they're out of block stun - unless they pushblock of course. But something interesting is that Dante's Lightning Bolt and Vortex cannot be pushblocked at all. In flight mode, he can do three Lightning Bolts and end with a Vortex for the plus frames on block. After the Vortex he can immediately do a j.L on the recovery frames and then a c.L after a near instant landing, or just go c.L instead of the j.L for a fast guess on their part. You don't even have to do it that way, either. You could throw some attacks in between the Lightning Bolts, you could cancel the flight for going low immediately, or just go all out on the chip with four lightning bolts. Hell, if you time the Vortex just before Devil Trigger runs out, once he recovers from the animation there will be a flash of light that obscures Dante as he transforms back to normal, so it's a complete guessing game as to whether the next attack will be high or low. There's a lot of potential in there for tons of tricky stuff with Dante's flight mode... all I need to do is try it out in a match. But hey, it sounds good at least! Yay theory crafting!
ThatCrazyGuy
Member
OT, but. I have been playing Cyberbots on PS3 for a few days.
It doesn't seem arcade perfect (as least to compared to the MAME version I play). Sound seems muffled, and graphics don't seem to match 100%. At least I can play on my couch on a big screen (and not bust out the Saturn).
But damn, the game is fun. Robots make everything better.
But, damn that PS2 loading straight to hell. STRAIGHT THERE.
It doesn't seem arcade perfect (as least to compared to the MAME version I play). Sound seems muffled, and graphics don't seem to match 100%. At least I can play on my couch on a big screen (and not bust out the Saturn).
But damn, the game is fun. Robots make everything better.
But, damn that PS2 loading straight to hell. STRAIGHT THERE.
sixteen-bit
Member
Marvel is serious business apparently.
Oh well. Twitter fights > getting stabbed I suppose.
Oh well. Twitter fights > getting stabbed I suppose.
Sixfortyfive
He who pursues two rabbits gets two rabbits.
Isn't Noel the team captain for Season's Beatings?Grecco said:
crimsonspider89
Banned
Damn, that is going to be hype. Can EC get revenge on WC? And will Viscant reign supreme? Should be plenty of salt.
SolarPowered
Member
With the best of East coast and West coast? I'll gladly take that, sir.SmokeMaxX said:
sixteen-bit
Member
Yeah. Plus it's a SB staple at this point. Looking forward to it.SolarPowered said:
Professor Beef
Banned
MarlinPie is like Team Rocket's Meowth. Meowth sacrificed learning moves for walking and talking. MarlinPie sacrificed blocking for gdlk Viper skills.
~Devil Trigger~
In favor of setting Muslim women on fire
If MarlinPie blocks, West coast is free
Parallax Scroll
Banned
this wesker guy seems like a good character.
biosnake20
Member
Top Tier analogy.Professor Beef said:
DryEyeRelief
Member
USD said:
It's like the International team vs USA team exhibition
~Devil Trigger~
In favor of setting Muslim women on fire
Combofiend vs Marlin finals was probably the best set of Marvel vs Capcom 3 in existence right now.
At 9:30 PST FChamp is supposed to have a FT50 set with KBeast
http://www.complexitygaming.com/stream/162/
http://www.complexitygaming.com/stream/162/
SolarPowered
Member
NO WORDS
Pokemon style 5vs5 wouldn't be complete without some "Shit just got real -- cap turned backways" theme whenever one of the teams runs it back.
Or when one side gets steamrolled and you need dat tension.
FuckingMagmar Justin Wong. :lol
This might just be my favorite post in all of Mahvel-GAF combined. :lol
Seriously though, Marlin is too fucking beast. If he gets his blocking up, there's no way East doesn't take it.
First to 10 you mean, right?
...
Holy shit.
Edit: Shit was so good Solar. Almost transcendent.
Or when one side gets steamrolled and you need dat tension.
Fucking
Professor Beef said:
This might just be my favorite post in all of Mahvel-GAF combined. :lol
Seriously though, Marlin is too fucking beast. If he gets his blocking up, there's no way East doesn't take it.
N4Us said:
First to 10 you mean, right?
...
Holy shit.
Edit: Shit was so good Solar. Almost transcendent.
shaowebb
Member
This should have been EVO Grand Finals
Viscant vs Combofiend
This match rolled out pretty much EXACTLY how I thought it would should there two teams meet up.
FUCKIN.MEAT.GRINDER.
(also we could REALLY use that toronto GF matchup with combofiend vs marlinpie. Its another dream matchup for me as a big Combofiend/Marlinpie fan)
Viscant vs Combofiend
This match rolled out pretty much EXACTLY how I thought it would should there two teams meet up.
FUCKIN.MEAT.GRINDER.
(also we could REALLY use that toronto GF matchup with combofiend vs marlinpie. Its another dream matchup for me as a big Combofiend/Marlinpie fan)
SolarPowered
Member
I honestly don't even know where to start.
All the major gimmicks fell to the wayside here for the most part. Bullshit invincible assists were not seen, TAC glitch was minimal, DHC glitch had it's appearance somewhat and bullshit ez mode ABC stuff was ignored. The only thing I saw kind of often was the switch glitch(apparently it resets damage and hitstun scaling?). What Combofiend and Marlinpie displayed was Mahvel in it's truest essence. A test of wit, patience, pressure, endurance and plain old finger dexterity devoid of easy mode tactics.
Those two put on a show where every one of their characters got to shine and it was just excellent. That Ammy was no slouch, Viper was played at the highest level I've ever seen, Spencer is shown for possible S tier that he really is, She Hulk put on a mixup/mobility show that one would never expect for a heavy character, Mags was switching sides like in X-men comics and Taskmaster's grabs were spot on.
The saddest thing here is the fact that no more than a handful of people will ever know these characters the way those two do seeing as Vanilla is going to be obsolete pretty soon.
My hands started shaking at one point during the grand finals....
All the major gimmicks fell to the wayside here for the most part. Bullshit invincible assists were not seen, TAC glitch was minimal, DHC glitch had it's appearance somewhat and bullshit ez mode ABC stuff was ignored. The only thing I saw kind of often was the switch glitch(apparently it resets damage and hitstun scaling?). What Combofiend and Marlinpie displayed was Mahvel in it's truest essence. A test of wit, patience, pressure, endurance and plain old finger dexterity devoid of easy mode tactics.
Those two put on a show where every one of their characters got to shine and it was just excellent. That Ammy was no slouch, Viper was played at the highest level I've ever seen, Spencer is shown for possible S tier that he really is, She Hulk put on a mixup/mobility show that one would never expect for a heavy character, Mags was switching sides like in X-men comics and Taskmaster's grabs were spot on.
The saddest thing here is the fact that no more than a handful of people will ever know these characters the way those two do seeing as Vanilla is going to be obsolete pretty soon.
My hands started shaking at one point during the grand finals....
At least Marlinpie still gets the girl.Professor Beef said:
Professor Beef
Banned
That Grand Finals set...good lord.
Oldschoolgamer
The physical form of blasphemy
That Magneto combo Marlinpie did in the corner...omg. Magnus looked beyond Omega Class when he used it.
LMAO @ Kbeast bodying D.Phoenix with the team hyper. Magneto and Viper don't give a fuck about her controlling it.
LMAO @ Kbeast bodying D.Phoenix with the team hyper. Magneto and Viper don't give a fuck about her controlling it.
Karsticles
Member
Well said.