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Marvel vs. Capcom Infinite sells 1/10th of MvC3's debut in Japan, 1/6th Pokken DX
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Previous installments sold clearly better in Japan
Jawbreaker
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It would have sold just as terribly on the Switch. Platform choice isn't what killed this title; the game was getting eviscerated up to launch.
SolarPowered
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Oh God
I preferred Marvel Netflix to the MCU movies up until Iron Fist (yeesh). This news scares and upsets me greatly.
Ban Puncher
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The best part is when you finish Story Mode or Arcade, there is a credits roll that seems to go on for an eternity.
And all you can think is "What did all these people do?".
And all you can think is "What did all these people do?".
mugurumakensei
Member
Bombed in the UK. Also, MvC:I FW sold half of MvC3's FW.
Steam Becomes the Trickle.
It isn't even like you can claim they were part of a fake hype machine.
It may not be marvel land, but we also know the series doesn't usually perform this poorly.
Now looking back at it, SFV, didn't bomb at all it's just people were overestimating it, and funny how when Tekken 7 got almost the same numbers despite being on 3 systems, everyone was horray T7 is selling well despite it being a bigger franchise than SF.
Stone Ocean
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We don't know yet. But if Steam sales are anything to go by, very likely yes.
Inferno313
Banned
This isn't new news. This happened a couple years ago at this point, as Age of Ultron was coming out, iirc.
butman
Member
FTFY
If Capcom were trying to kill any hype people had for a new Marvel vs. Capcom release I don't think they could have done a better job.
You only have to watch one Marvel vs. Capcom 3 CG trailer to see that MvCI was only going to be a massive sales disappointment. I'm not even sure Capcom tried.
You only have to watch one Marvel vs. Capcom 3 CG trailer to see that MvCI was only going to be a massive sales disappointment. I'm not even sure Capcom tried.
LordRaptor
Member
Uhhhhhhhh...... well, opinions I guess.
Yeah, it's excellent
SF5 significantly under performed compared to SF4.
T7 sold more than what its previous entry sold iirc.
T7 also has the vast majority of its profits come from the arcades. SF5 has no such luck.
Jawbreaker
Member
SFV sold a decent amount worse than it would have if it hadn't been released in a barebones state. There was a lot of negativity surrounding it, too, which surely cut off whatever legs it would've had. Capcom's problem is they've been mismanaging some of their games.
I am honestly not certain how they could have tried harder. They gave this failure a massive push off of Mount Taygetus before it was even out of the
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Capcom went "this is fine" because they knew that they had no competition and people would buy it, and for the most part they were right since while there was initial disappointment from people, but there wasn't mockery or spite directed at it and people would have begrudgingly bought the game.
...then DBZ got announced.
DBZ was the thing that made most people put their foot down and say "no, I am not supporting Capcom"
Not the character in the second row that hasn't even got a film yet? Or Gamora in the back that looks nothing like Gamora from the films?
Leona Lewis
Banned
Tekken 7 had been released on arcades for years by that point. It was old news by the time it was released on consoles/PC.
Any extra profits were just gravy.
And even then it outperformed Tekken TT2/6.
SF4 was the exception of the norm and everyone knows why, it's nothing to base the sales on, overall Tekken sold more than SF and the bigger franchise on consoles.
I remember Capcom having expectations of SFV selling 2 and it sold 1.2 million or something and crawled to 1.5 million in about 6-10 months or so
CharminUltra
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I didnt care for it personally, but then again I dont play very many fighting games. People that are into the genre like it a lot apparently doe.
Skittzo0413
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I don't think anyone's claiming this game would've sold that much more on the Switch. Rather, the point is that Capcom is so badly mismanaged that they should have been taking advantage of the growing, hungry user base on the new platform (with easy games to port, like NES roms for instance) since that has proven successful for them, while all of their new projects that skip said platform have been proven wildly unsuccessful.
It's basically- we're gonna ignore the platform that we're actually selling games on to continue making other games that barely sell.
I'm telling you guys, it's the classic Producers move. Embezzle the budgets and put out a giant turd, then blame it on the audience.
Someone at Capcom is getting super rich.
Sorcerer Supreme
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lol i have no words
thanks for killing street fighter and the versus series in less than 2 years capcom
thanks for killing street fighter and the versus series in less than 2 years capcom
I don't really think that's true. I love Nintendo games but Pokken doesn't stand out much.
MVCI, while having issues, feels like a more fun game to play.
Overall sure but the series' strength has dwindled significantly on consoles.
Just gotta look at how long it took them to care enough to do a console port of T7.
It's very odd, yet original in all honestly. I don't enjoy the mechanics at all, but they certainly can be fun if you get into it. It controls differently from every other fighting game that I've seen, but not in a "euphoric" way like Smash or ARMS. It is a lot less natural feeling, but there are also more "systems" in play. It's like an ARC Sys Works game with simplified controls and 3D movement. There are a ton of things to learn and none of them are difficult to execute. Yet you have to juggle all of those lessons/systens as you fight.
I don't think it flows as well as it should. But it could be that I was so turned off by the art style that I never gave it a fair shot. Many fighting games feel like a complicated version of rock paper scissors, and Pokken is no exception. But the movement in the game feels so slow and weighty that it just never feels fun in my humble opinion.
As for the vast majority of fighting games born in arcades, yes: it's good.
Even for not Pokemon fans.
So this is just a microcosm of my own experience, but the people I run into who actually stuck around to play the MvC games over time were mostly sadists. The self-identifying scene is just so into leveraging balance problems or infinite combos in a way that the game wasn't really fun to engage with in an event setting.
There's the obvious layer of mismanagement on Capcom's part, but I wonder if part of this commercial reaction is from a lack of love for these games from the people who might have enjoyed them in the past, as actual fighting games.
There's the obvious layer of mismanagement on Capcom's part, but I wonder if part of this commercial reaction is from a lack of love for these games from the people who might have enjoyed them in the past, as actual fighting games.
How? Pokken is pretty unique.
Jawmuncher
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Honestly wouldn't be surprised if it takes the spot at EVO as a long-term mainstay. Especially since ArcSys will be good to go with with adding more content as years go on.
It'll depend on the profits they make for DLC.
If they're making profit with the character pass and costumes they'll keep going. If they do two seasons worth and are in the negative. it's dropped more than likely.
I mean, opinions and all that, but Nintendo proper's got virtually nothing to do with Pokken. It's a Bandai Namco/TPCi joint.
Even then it feels pretty unique to me, particularly with the phase shifting stuff going on and the relative obscurity of some of their picks (I mean yeah they're all Pokemon, but did you really expect to see Croagunk or Chandelure getting top billing in a Pokemon spinoff?).
FadedRevolution
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Nah
You are right, MVC2 did look bad. The sprites were a mess and taken from years of old games. However the reason for this is to have a giant cast made up of all those sprites. Everyone's favorite fighter from the older games was in there...plus a couple new folks too. MVCI looks awful yet there's no payoff with a giant, cool roster of fighters to make up for it.
Probably not. It'll sell slightly better than a normal Arcsys game and then disappear like normal after 2-3 months.
Happy for Pokken. The original game's roster just fell on the wrong side of the right size, but with the extra 5 characters (with the two Mewtwos unlocked from the start it feels like 7 new characters when you boot it up) it now feels perfect.
Scizor and Decidueye are both great additions - super fun to play as both. And the single player feels like less of a grind when you're not seeing the same opponents again and again. In the Wii U version you'd often face the same pokemon twice in a block of 5 league matches. Here that basically never happens. The roster is big enough now.
Scizor and Decidueye are both great additions - super fun to play as both. And the single player feels like less of a grind when you're not seeing the same opponents again and again. In the Wii U version you'd often face the same pokemon twice in a block of 5 league matches. Here that basically never happens. The roster is big enough now.
Replace? No. Capcom will provide the big money pots to satiate the FGC while the usual carnival barkers at the American branch pretend everything is okay.
James Scott
Banned
While I guess its funny with Capcoms lack of support on Switch, I dont think it wouldve done well anywhere.
Its a mess of a game in the eye of the public and it would need a lot of work to fix.
Dont think itll reach its 2M by the fiscal year with hype being considerably lower than SFV.
As for Pokken, it seems like a low effort project. But the Pokémon name is big, I guess.
Seems like theres an audience for fighting games on Switch
Its a mess of a game in the eye of the public and it would need a lot of work to fix.
Dont think itll reach its 2M by the fiscal year with hype being considerably lower than SFV.
As for Pokken, it seems like a low effort project. But the Pokémon name is big, I guess.
Seems like theres an audience for fighting games on Switch
Doubt it, Evo seems to give preference to Marvel.
Infinite will probably get the time slot before SFV for a few years to come.
Jawmuncher, your profile pics are always awesome, my dude.
UnemployedVillain
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It's going to become the new standard for how all anime/comic based games should look, at last it they're going for the cartoony look (in contrast to In Justice's realistic art style)
Capcom will have to step things up significantly next time. I think it's been understated how much of a drop in art style quality their fighting games had in the transition to 3D. Their old CPS2 stuff all had an identifiable, unique and gorgeous look to them
Lmfao is that really in the game? Without the wrestling guy, ofc