Gambit2483
Member
Gotham Knights has a more fundamentally sound base. None of that GAAS grind grind grind gameplay BS. It also has better focus on its single player story
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Fuz
Banned
But I like ass.
geary
Member
If i am not mistaking Crystal Dynamics already works on Perfect Dark with The Initiative and has another Tomb Raider planned. Since they were bought by Embracer and this was a Square Enix game, I think they are relieved to leave behind this game.
00Magnum Gaming
Member
Bar the intial problems, it was
Certinty
Member
As others have said, the worst thing this game did was make people think Guardians of the Galaxy was similar which made it flop.
Guardians is still my game of the generation so far. Amazing story, characters, soundtrack, visuals and attention to detail. Gameplay could be better but the rest more than makes up for it.
Guardians is still my game of the generation so far. Amazing story, characters, soundtrack, visuals and attention to detail. Gameplay could be better but the rest more than makes up for it.
FeralEcho
Member
It's because they acted like their movie counterparts and more importantly they tried to emulate the movie look for some of them which brings in that descussion.
Marvel's Spiderman had a similar effect with the remastered version where they changed the look of Peter Parker and people starter comparing it to Tom Holland's babyface.I still preffer the original PS4 version of Peter in that game.
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SEGAvangelist
Member
Pretty cool that all the DLC will be free and and servers will stay up for MP. This is kinda like an MMO going into maintenance mode without a sub. It's pretty generous, honestly.
For a game as maligned as this has been (and it definitely earned its fair shake) the amount of free post launch content and gameplay updates that were put out and should be commended; this is on top of what is actually a very good hero action brawler. The lack of a meaningful endgame and WOEFUL matchmaking (that still exists I think) was the proverbial "fly in the ointment that was already confirmed to have cancer causing minerals (MTX in this analogy)" but I do think the developers deserve some credit for trying to make their game shine given the roadblocks that were no doubt thrown up by SE and DISNEY.
I legit think this game could have been a textbook case on how you design and develop a GaaS game that is fair for all involved, but the corporate folks had to jump in and do their thing - the original model for post-release characters will always be a spectacular example of how corporate fuckery and how the inability to read a room can absolutely fuck a game.
I legit think this game could have been a textbook case on how you design and develop a GaaS game that is fair for all involved, but the corporate folks had to jump in and do their thing - the original model for post-release characters will always be a spectacular example of how corporate fuckery and how the inability to read a room can absolutely fuck a game.
Big Baller
Al Pachinko, Konami President
Rendered Tangent
Banned
You think they'd make Spiderman available on pc and Xbox, now that support is finishing.
LordCBH
Member
Part of the blame definitely falls on Disney for releasing a lot of phase 4 projects that were simply awful. Shit like she hulk, Eternals, love and thunder, and more should’ve been cancelled.
Big Baller
Al Pachinko, Konami President
Rendered Tangent
Banned
What the **** happened to Mary Jane?
Big Baller
Al Pachinko, Konami President
It's Mary Jim
RoadHazard
Gold Member
It's janky and unpolished. Maybe it is still AAA, but then I would have to say Spider-Man (and most other Sony stuff) is AAAA. It's just on a different level.
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EverydayBeast
ChatGPT 0.1
You can’t expect developers to support games after release yes todays games are different before you release a game and couldn’t make changes.
sachos
Member
"No new digital purchases of the game will be available after September 30, 2023." If anyone is interested, the phyisical PS5 version can be installed and finished offline, if you want to preserve the game. The PS4 version requires download. Those PS5 discs may get expensive https://doesitplay.herokuapp.com/game/Marvel's Avengers/ps5/Base PS5?region=ESRB
wvnative
Member
I hope at some point in the future we get a full blow out on everything that happened behind the scenes, this has to be the one of the biggest fuck ups in gaming history holy shit. Like we know some stuff, engine trouble, bad management but I feel there is a much bigger story here yet to be told.
The game is bad because making an Avengers game a looter shooter was the worst possible way to go about it, but who decided to go that route? CD? Square? Marvel? And did no one along the way say "hey maybe this isn't the right path"?
Also, I know that people like Crystal Dynamics, but imo, they always seemed a huge red flag to hire for a live service avengers game, such a game is so wildly out of their wheelhouse, nothing wrong with trying new things but they just jumped from tomb raider, a cinematic single player AAA game, to an online live service looter shooter with several playable characters with different movesets and a much more in depth combat system compared to TR. With never really even having made any multiplayer games before let alone managing a live service.
Mistakes were made.
Also fascinating they are straight up delisting it, would love to know the reason for that.
The game is bad because making an Avengers game a looter shooter was the worst possible way to go about it, but who decided to go that route? CD? Square? Marvel? And did no one along the way say "hey maybe this isn't the right path"?
Also, I know that people like Crystal Dynamics, but imo, they always seemed a huge red flag to hire for a live service avengers game, such a game is so wildly out of their wheelhouse, nothing wrong with trying new things but they just jumped from tomb raider, a cinematic single player AAA game, to an online live service looter shooter with several playable characters with different movesets and a much more in depth combat system compared to TR. With never really even having made any multiplayer games before let alone managing a live service.
Mistakes were made.
Also fascinating they are straight up delisting it, would love to know the reason for that.
Rendered Tangent
Banned
Mary Jim Ryan?
yet_another_alt
Member
It's nice that the cosmetics are going to be free. I wish they made the raids doable solo too.
Agent_Nobody
Member
It has a campaign that’s worth playing IMO, and it can be fun when you get completely overpowered (mainly as Thor lol). Since it’s getting delisted it‘s kind of a PT situation where you either get it or it’s gone digitally (granted this is way more of a time window), and physical copies might actually end up being actually being worth more than a buck now lol.Is it me, or now is the right time to buy the game?
In an odd way it’s the probably the best way to play the game from the March date where everything get’s turned free.
If you can find it cheap as hell it’s definitely a decent buy at this point.
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Deerock71
Member
I'm sure the three people that bought will feel downright chuffed.yesterday: $75 skin pack for sale
today: RIP game
No refunds on previously purchased cosmetics.
I shouldn't laugh but goddamn that's brutal
Larxia
Member
Janky and unpolished? How so?
I found it way more memorable than spider-man (although spider-man is cool for the free roam, but the campaign of guardians is just wayyy better, and I really don't see what's janky about it, I though it was fantastic).
lughnasadh123
Member
The Avengers game always seemed like the kind of end result we'd get after asking an AI program to make a Marvel GaaS game.
MAX PAYMENT
Member
Wtf... GOTG was actually very good.
Rendered Tangent
Banned
It's on Game Pass, if you have that as an option.Is it me, or now is the right time to buy the game?
March Climber
Member
I’m kind of on your side here, but this forum will never believe you. The gameplay in Avengers was the best part of Avengers. Everything felt smooth, and things combined and combo’d amazingly. It had a really good ‘flow’ and good dodge and block mechanics.
What really sucks here is that people will always think otherwise because that golden nugget of great and varied action gameplay was wrapped around a giant turd of monetization, bad mission design, bad enemy design, and bad endgame design.
There will never be another game for a long, long time that will give me the unique amount of fun that I did with throwing Captain America’s shield to combo it into multiple enemies while I launched one in the air for a small air combo, caught the shield, and slammed down as a finisher, then quickly used it to deflect a missile back to an enemy and do the charging star move from MvC afterward.
That just doesn’t exist anywhere else, because Captain America’s combat style and shield with weird comic book physics is unique in itself and doesn’t exist in any other game.
Soodanim
Member
You know how health and safety disasters become case studies for people to learn from in the future? This should be shown in board rooms to show executives what happens when you put out shitty cash grabs instead of making products people want to buy.
It sounds like there was some good in there, but it was all lost behind the money grabbing shit, and that put people off. Shame for the devs who worked hard on it
It sounds like there was some good in there, but it was all lost behind the money grabbing shit, and that put people off. Shame for the devs who worked hard on it
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AngelMuffin
Member
Square-Enix needs to be discontinued.
