Xtib81
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You already know how it's gonna play. Same setting, same gameplay, same protagonists, same everything basically.
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Marvel's Spider-Man 2 new screenshots
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You already know how it's gonna play. Same setting, same gameplay, same protagonists, same everything basically.
What are people expecting? Outside side of ray tracing/path tracing,how else could Insomniac Game improve the game? Most of the improvements would be interactive to make the game seem photo realistic.
Haint
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People expecting the Matrix demo gonna be disappointed with a slightly more polished facsimile of the first game slathered in a film grain filter. Personally, I thought the first 2 were boring as fuck and every bit as Mad Libs by the numbers as an Ubisoft game, so I couldn't give 2 shits about another 20 hours of more of the same.
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Photoshop.
Portugeezer
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Probably photo mode shots.
eternalhorizon
Neo Member
Wonder how close Insomniac could get to this cg Miles Morales trailer from 2 years ago
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Larxia
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I guess I'm weird but I see people here saying these are bullshots, while I'm like "I don't really see any difference with the first game, they look the same to me" lol. Not that it's a negative, I think the first game already looks fantastic and I'm fine with the graphics being similar, but that's it, they are, to me, very similar.
Also awful blur / film grain / aberration on these screenshots.
Also awful blur / film grain / aberration on these screenshots.
Red Crayon Aristocrat
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It really doesn't look like a next gen leap, remember when next gen would make you really go wow?
Hollowpoint5557
A Fucking Idiot
You're looking at the PC shots there folks.
Represent.
Represent(ative) of bad opinions
No we're not lmao.
Plus, these shots look awful. This is legit one of the most graphically disappointing games of all time. I was expecting an all-timer look wise coming after Ratchet. But they clearly mailed in the graphics.
It should look way way better than it does. What a joke
Bonfires Down
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Little Chicken
Banned
How sad that a building cannot appear in something without a license.
Brute force offline rendering..probably at 8k+.
Bullshots usualy refers to image quality. So higher res and better AA not next gen features people truly want.
Johnny Concrete
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I thought this thread was a case of "Marvel's Spider-Man, 2 new screenshots"
So would you rather a nice game that the looks like this on a decent development time line, or do people want 10-12 year development cycle and $500M-$750M budget for games and watch the game industry collapse? BTW, I think game looks great and I am looking forward to it. Bullshots or not, I don't care, I know the graphics will be more than enough for most people and border on amazing.
Spitfire098
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NekoFever
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It can, but a detailed and accurate 3D reproduction that players can climb all over goes beyond incidental background inclusion.
Solidsnake_1
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reused assets
Robb
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What a horrible comparison, for density especially. In one pic the stoplight is red, in the other it's green so an entire lane looks completely empty.
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vaibhavpisal
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Looks way better than screenshots from gameplay showcase.
At least will look better than Spiderman remastered. So that's a relief.
Taken on its own, game is pretty to look at no doubt. People criticising graphics should just take break from gaming and come back after a year or so.
At least will look better than Spiderman remastered. So that's a relief.
Taken on its own, game is pretty to look at no doubt. People criticising graphics should just take break from gaming and come back after a year or so.
Senua
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People just expect to be blown away from Sony first party titles from previous experience, they set the bar high so when they don't reach it they get kicked in the nads. They did this to themselves!!!1
blastprocessor
The Amiga Brotherhood
Not blown away for a current gen exclusive. A ground up game in another location would have taken allot longer so... I think the Wolverine game will be a more ground up showcase for PS5.
The_Observer
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This is a joke, right? Though in this clown world it might be easily serious.
rhodesianshepard
Banned
90% of what I care about is in the gameplay. While Spider-Man PS4 was very solid, it had a non-interactive open world with repetitive encounters. The combat was enjoyable but ultimately pretty shallow. I really hope the new gameplay changes carries this game
The artful mincer
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StueyDuck
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Oooh what's the new outrage... #nightgate?
It's always fun seeing outrage at insom then watching people eat crow
The artful mincer
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Right.... because the only difference between the two shots is the traffic on one road
The artful mincer
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Traffic Light gate
Robb
Gold Member
I never said it was.Right.... because the only difference between the two shots is the traffic on one road
MadPanda
Banned
Exactly. I have Platinumed the first one and I regret it as it amplifies all the flaws it has. Sadly, from that gameplay video it looks like exactly the same game gameplay wise so not very excited. It will be a fine game, no doubt about it, and a very good one for those game sessions when you're home tired from work but I hoped for something greater.
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The artful mincer
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This has not been talked about much but you could clearly see the combat has been reworked from the trailer.
They seem to have removed the gadgets and put in real time rechargeable suit powers. This should give the game a better more organic flow.
Whether this is enough for some everyone I don't know.
The artful mincer
Member
Fair enough but it's seems a pretty odd detail to get hung up on considering all the other huge improvements.
ProtoByte
Weeb Underling
How about you spend 4-5 years on each project instead or stacking them on top of each other?
After development of Spider-Man 1 in quick succession from remaking Ratchet and Clank Insomniac spent months on 3 DLC drops, a half-game project in Miles Morales, and reiterated on de-edgified Ratchet the year after. They're stacking Spider-Man 2 and Wolverine on top of each other, and the former looks extremely underwhelming.
PaintTinJr
Member
I was hoping for complete skill tree removal, less moves more skill based, and put all that in a tutorial with a MGS4 training section too, so that gamers can skip doing the same things and feel like the developer respects their time..
I also wanted the game to make every large building interior trivially accessible and procedurally populated if needed - unless locked off for story reasons - so it doesn't just feel like swinging around large PS1 Amazing spiderman cuboids with PS5 advance shading on them that reached its pinnacle in the PS4 gen, so that the city feels more organic and truly benefits from indirect lighting as the character moves in and out of apartments and builds trivially in real-time gameplay - like a next-gen changed - rather than cutscene transitions to hide the seams of the engine transitioning between indoor and outdoor. But I know none of those things are happening, and this is really just a sequel graphical polish of Morales, which should still be good for me as a spiderman fan of the stories, but probably a bit flat from a gameplay perspective, like an AC3 fatigue.
Robb
Gold Member
The pic was taken to partly show off density (pedestrian to be fair) and lighting. I just don't understand why you'd choose that picture of the first game if that's the case.
rhodesianshepard
Banned
Insomniac is a massive studio with 2 separate development teams. For context, they are roughly twice the size of God of War's Sony Santa Monica
saintjules
Gold Member
What will you see in the game when you play on a PS5 Pro? What if Insomniac chooses not to implement any changes to take advantage of the hardware? You would wait until end of 2024 or 2025 (since no official announcement of a Pro has been made yet) only to find out nothing changed in the game?
Eotheod
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Is it weird that I like the original screenshot more because of the clarity? That film grain is so extremely heavy it actually makes the game look...blurry? Plus, looking closer there are some distinct changes like buildings using lightmaps to depict an "inside" reflection which definitely makes it feel bigger but at the same time feels repetitive.
In the pursuit of photo realism graphics ?
Honestly it sounds like you don't like insomniac games. But they seem to have found a good balance between speed, skill, graphics and gameplay. Their games seem to be well received, they must be doing something right.