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[Draugoth]

Senua from Hellblade 2 appears in Insomniac’s slides as a visual quality goal that the PlayStation studio is aiming to achieve in Marvel’s Wolverine.

A couple of days ago, Insomniac Games suffered a massive ransomware attack, as a result of which many of the company’s internal and confidential files were leaked online. The leak included a fully playable build of Marvel’s Wolverine, a ton of concept art for the studio’s upcoming games, road maps, various presentations, documents and slides.

In one of the slides posted on Reddit, Insomniac Games presented a visual target for Wolverine in the Photogrammetry category. The slide explains how the studio aims to use real-world scan data to create realistic characters, and uses Hellblade 2’s protagonist as an example of the level of realism. In the slide, Insomniac also noted how developers can use 4D scan data to create “realistic” materials, render them in the game engine, and then artistically tweak the models to create memorable and compelling characters.

 

[DavidGzz]

Impossibru

 

[kazuyamishima]

Yeah, but why.gif

 

[Krappadizzle]

 

[TheRedRiders]

Great news, a Wolverine game with a strong sense of photo-realism will elevate it to another level, very suiting given the the nature of the character and narrative.

As for Insomniac, they somehow managed to blow $350 million on Spider-man 2, a game which lacked a micro-polygon rendering system, and a dynamic global illumination system for lighting, two of the most defining features of next-gen. A little annoying and almost embarrassing for a Playstation first party studio.

Better late than never I guess.

 

[Portugeezer]

So Wolverine will be growling all the time. At least it fits his character.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

They willl surpass them graphicos.

 

[Masterri]

350 million dollars spent on graphics, 500k on the same old shitty gameplay.
God I love the AAA gaming industry.

 

[LordCBH]

Probably the only thing they should strive to take from hellblade, as everything outside the graphics in hellblade is ass.

 

[T4keD0wN]

This sounds highly questionable.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

350 million dollars spent on graphics, 500k on the same old shitty gameplay.
God I love the AAA gaming industry.

thats what pays the billls and keep the industry afloat. So, its time for people to show respect for it.

 

[Robb]

Can’t complain, the latest footage of Hellblade 2 looks stunning.

 

[DavidGzz]

Probably the only thing they should strive to take from hellblade, as everything outside the graphics in hellblade is ass.

Damn, it got leaked too? How long was it, bro?

 

[Represent.]

I take back everything bad I said about them in the Graphical Fidelity thread.

 

[chessy_08]

Great news, a Wolverine game with a strong sense of photo-realism will elevate it to another level, very suiting given the the nature of the character and narrative.

As for Insomniac, they somehow managed to blow $350 million on Spider-man 2, a game which lacked a micro-polygon rendering system, and a dynamic global illumination system for lighting, two of the most defining features of next-gen. A little annoying and almost embarrassing for a Playstation first party studio.

Better late than never I guess.

I thought Spiderman 2 looked amazing

 

[TheRedRiders]

I thought Spiderman 2 looked amazing

Each to their own, I thought it was a modest step up from Spider-man 1 in terms of visuals.

 

[Represent.]

If they can match this, I will never say another bad thing about them ever again

 

[ADiTAR]

If they can match this, I will never say another bad thing about them ever again

Of course they can, they just need turn off the environment.

 

[Thirty7ven]

OP continues to write bs titles that mislead people.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

If they can match this, I will never say another bad thing about them ever again

They will. Insomniac is technologically ahead. But in terms of Art Direction Hellblade 2 is going to be definitely more striking.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

OP continues to write bs titles that mislead people.

Are you saying that OP is a gaming journalist?

 

[adamsapple]

By all means, all of them (who have the budget and time) should be striving for top-tier presentation.

 

[lefty1117]

Is it going to be on PC?

 

[Flabagast]

If they can match this, I will never say another bad thing about them ever again

Man the gameplay looks as bad as the first

 

[Mister Wolf]

No chance.

 

[Represent.]

Man the gameplay looks as bad as the first

it looks amazing to me

heavy grimey and visceral

 

[balls of snow]

If they can match this, I will never say another bad thing about them ever again.

Hellblade 2 will score that 90 meta. I feel it.

 

[Zuzu]

It might be hard for them to match all of Hellblade 2’s visual features since Hellblade might be running in a letterboxed format which saves gpu resources and it may be more linear than Wolverine. But I’m sure they can match parts of it, like the photogrammetry.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Waste of resources. No wonder the budgets for the new Marvel games are skyrocketing.

HB2 is going to be a slow paced cinematic game. If it replicates HB1, it's all about story, cut scenes, slowly creeping around caves and some action scenes thrown in. I dont believe for one bit HB2 will be an action packed swordplay game. Just look at HB1 trailers compared to the actual game. It is no DMC or Ninja Gaiden slashfest.

Marvel games have story and cut scenes too, but the games are more action packed and zipping around the open world cities. There's a balance.

If Insomniac can pull off HB2 visuals throughout their game, that'll be one heck of an achievement, but it'll be very costly eye candy.

 

[VeganElduderino]

they should be saying the level of graphics of the Matrix demo , not a game with zero background and 2 characters on screen

 

[twilo99]

Is it going to be on PC?

Some media was reporting that it was already out on PC but can't be sure

 

[Feel Like I'm On 42]

I take back everything bad I said about them in the Graphical Fidelity thread.

Why? They still deserve some shit for their underwhelming work on Spiderman 2's graphics and of course the bullshot trailer they used

 

[Feel Like I'm On 42]

it looks amazing to me

heavy grimey and visceral

As long as it's got SOME improvement that adds some desperately needed depth than I can behind going with the same combat style.

This is not a character action game like DMC. But if the combat is the same exact thing with no challenge or room for someone to improve I'm gonna he super disappointed.

I agree tho that visually is looks visceral and great

 

[Taur007]

They willl surpass them graphicos.

Lol on what planet?

 

[Iced Arcade]

well I mean the development time is long enough so there is hope.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

Lol on what planet?

Hellblade is aiming for realism, Wolverine is more stylized. But in terms of "graphics" insomniac will "win".

in other words; Hellblade is going to look better, but Wolverine is going to be better.

 

[Mister Wolf]

Hellblade is aiming for realism, Wolverine is more stylized. But in terms of "graphics" insomniac will "win".

in other words; Hellblade is going to look better, but Wolverine is going to be better.

Hellblade's animations, lighting, environments, and character's will all be superior in detail. Ninja Theory is basically a top tier CGI studio that makes mediocre playing games.

 

[Represent.]

Hellblade's animations, lighting, environments, and character's will all be superior in detail. Ninja Theory is basically a top tier CGI studio that makes mediocre playing games.

I think Hellblade 2 will look better, but Wolverine will look more impressive

 

[ckaneo]

Insomniac without having to make an open world is gonna be mild numbing good just like they were with Ratchet and Clank

 

[Mister Wolf]

I think Hellblade 2 will look better, but Wolverine will look more impressive

Makes no sense.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

Hellblade's animations,

I don't think animation is part of the graphics. but again, realism vs controlling a super hero.

lighting, environments, and character's will all be superior in detail.

it depends on the game. If hellbalde's level desing is as constrained as the first game and if it has a more "directed" approach to enemy encounters, maybe.

but i can see Insomniac having better ray tracing implementation, HDR, motion blur; better performance with less graphical consessions.

Ninja Theory is basically a top tier CGI studio that makes mediocre playing games.

CGI is one thing. But i believe Art Direction is what's going to be the differentiator

 

[X-Wing]

Will it have more than 2 characters on screen though?

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

Should be a stunning game since it’s not open world

 

[Jesb]

Hell blade bored me to tears. Great looking game though.

 

[Represent.]

Makes no sense.

Hellblade 2 looks better than GTA 6
GTA 6 is still more impressive

 

[SlimySnake]

It might be hard for them to match all of Hellblade 2’s visual features since Hellblade might be running in a letterboxed format which saves gpu resources and it may be more linear than Wolverine. But I’m sure they can match parts of it, like the photogrammetry.

Not to mention they are idiotically targeting 60 fps whereas hellblade is 30 fps. they have 2x more gpu power available to make senua look next gen whereas insomniac are handicapping themselves by going with a default 60 fps mode according to the leaks. they dont even want to commit to a 30 fps mode.

 

[Slothbeing1209]

Why not. It's not open world like spider-man so they could push the graphic as much as they can.

 

[Mister Wolf]

Not to mention they are idiotically targeting 60 fps whereas hellblade is 30 fps. they have 2x more gpu power available to make senua look next gen whereas insomniac are handicapping themselves by going with a default 60 fps mode according to the leaks. they dont even want to commit to a 30 fps mode.

Hellblade is even going the extra mile of using letterbox aspect ratio so they don't have to focus as much of the GPU's power on resolution. Its the closest I've seen a game get to prerendered CGI. Looks like it could be an episode in the Love, Death, and Robots anthology on Netflix.

 

[eNT1TY]

Release date Hellblade 2 will also look better than what has been shown from current build, both are still a while away. Wolverine will easily compete with current Hellblade 2 but remains to be seen how it will stack up to the finished Hellblade 2 in sheer visual fidelity specially if they opt for semi open traversable environments rather than the narrower scope of hellblade (assuming it is structured like the 1st one). I dare say most games releasing at that time will square up quite well against each other and art direction rarther than tech will determine which one "looks" better. Beyond that, ND's next game and Fable will outshine those, that will be the battle of two of the best art teams in the industry imo. Its not the bullet its the sniper...

 

[Shits_McGiggles]

Can I have fun gameplay first?