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Mask Efficacy |OT| Wuhan!! Got You All In Check

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GAMETA

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Any news on non Asians getting infected?

I saw something about the DNA chain (or something) the virus uses to "exploit" the cell's DNA and how that particular chain isn't overly present in other races.
 
You are trying to say that there are hidden references to a zombie game in a real life viral outbreak, and that this is somehow significant. How fucking stupid are you? You belong in the mental asylum that is the conspiracy thread.

Or maybe you could make an actual argument instead of permuting letters and reading tea leaves.
What part of we are living in a simulation do you not understand?
 

12Goblins

Lil’ Gobbie
Any news on non Asians getting infected?

I saw something about the DNA chain (or something) the virus uses to "exploit" the cell's DNA and how that particular chain isn't overly present in other races.

hey guys I read some completely ignorant garbage online and now I'm infected and will spread this garbage to other vulnerable recipients of garbage like TheGreatYosh TheGreatYosh
 
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GAMETA

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hey guys I read some completely ignorant garbage online and now I'm infected and will spread this garbage to other vulnerable recipients of garbage like TheGreatYosh TheGreatYosh

Why is it ignorant? So you're telling me there are no differences in our DNA? Some that are mainly dictated by race?

Isn't variation of genetic code exactly the cause and maybe even purpose of mutation and evolution and natural selection? To preserve the species by making sure all won't fall to the same diseases and/or conditions?

How is acknowledging that being ignorant?
 
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Ornlu

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Why is it ignorant? So you're telling me there are no differences in our DNA? Some that are mainly dictated by race?

Isn't variation of genetic code exactly the cause and maybe even purpose of mutation and evolution and natural selection? To preserve the species by making sure all won't fall to the same diseases and/or conditions?

How is acknowledging that being ignorant?

It's not, it's just not considered socially acceptable to talk about in 1st world Europe + the US.

Basically anywhere else the argument would be seen as fine to talk about.
 
Why is it ignorant? So you're telling me there are no differences in our DNA? Some that are mainly dictated by race?

Isn't variation of genetic code exactly the cause and maybe even purpose of mutation and evolution and natural selection? To preserve the species by making sure all won't fall to the same diseases and/or conditions?

How is acknowledging that being ignorant?
12Goblins 12Goblins is not a racist like you! He knows race doesn't exist. He's a good boy.
 
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GAMETA

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It's not, it's just not considered socially acceptable to talk about in 1st world Europe + the US.

Basically anywhere else the argument would be seen as fine to talk about.

"Not considered socially acceptable". Hopefully only on twitter/era and not in real life... I mean, denying our basic differences would be a very stupid thing to do.
 

Ornlu

Banned
"Not considered socially acceptable". Hopefully only on twitter/era and not in real life... I mean, denying our basic differences would be a very stupid thing to do.

I'm not saying whether it's a good thing or not; just explaining why you were catching some shit for asking a question.
 

nush

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India won't even notice; I'm sure at any given time they've got a strain of bubonic plague, SARS, bird flu, swine flu, ebola, etc running roughshod through the lower castes and don't even know it.
India is like the Royal Rumble of lethal pathogens except they have evolved a birth rate that exceeds the death rate of all these infections so they are always ahead of the curve.
 

Wwg1wga

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You don't quarantine 18+million citizens, close all transport, build emergency hospitals, and declare martial law if 'only' 106 people died and 4,690 are infected.... this is bigger than we can imagine.


 
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nush

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You don't quarantine 50+million citizens, close all transport, build emergency hospitals, and declare martial law if 'only' 106 people died and 4,690 are infected.... this is bigger than we can imagine.



Nurse video is fake and link to proof they have enacted martial law please.
 
It's not, it's just not considered socially acceptable to talk about in 1st world Europe + the US.

Basically anywhere else the argument would be seen as fine to talk about.
This guy gets it. Millions of people potentially dying is a small price to pay for us to continue denying biological reality.
 

nush

Member
Chairman Tickles Chairman Tickles give this guy the link to the information the nurse video is fake.

Basically she's faking the local accent, the equipment she wearing is just store brought stuff that looks like hazmat gear (blue swimming cap) and the ceiling in the room is too low to be a hospital and purposely filmed in a corner with no details.

Martial law link my dude.
 

Croatoan

They/Them A-10 Warthog
Non asians have already been infected, like in Germany.
The point of this "study" was the asians get it worse, not that others can't get it.

I highly doubt that is correct but if it is then it would point to this being a man made virus. Nature doesn't usually work that way.
 

12Goblins

Lil’ Gobbie
This guy gets it. Millions of people potentially dying is a small price to pay for us to continue denying biological reality.

Science does not deny reality. People like you do. Science will tell us if Asians are more predisposed to contracting the virus, while folks like you go around spreading misinformation (denying reality, in other words).
 

Croatoan

They/Them A-10 Warthog
HOLY SHIT.



Watch this, seriously.

Jesus Christ, and we have some fuck on this forum goal tending for a shit hole regime that doesn't belong in a civilized world.

Fuck the Chinese Government. I hope this is their death kneel.

Like I said ... it’s bad ... hope you guys made a small supply of masks and glasses and gloves ...
Those are all worthless. Stay in your house and don't leave is the only way to avoid this.
 
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Rentahamster

Rodent Whores
Unlike Western countries which aren't really trying to overtly "prove" the efficacy of capitalism
We don't? I think we do this all the time. Particularly for America, whose national identity is also tied very closely to capitalism. In other words, if you accept that premise, then promoting nationalism is effectively promoting captialism along with it (e.g. Let's go USA blah blah blah and the American way! blah blah blah)

This hasn't been the case for a lot of other Western countries recently, especially European ones where "capitalism" has become a bad word. However, many pro-America politician types like to tout American's victory against socialism and communism quite often. We even changed the national anthem to stick it to them godless commies. That was also the point of the entire space race.
 
We don't? I think we do this all the time. Particularly for America, whose national identity is also tied very closely to capitalism. In other words, if you accept that premise, then promoting nationalism is effectively promoting captialism along with it (e.g. Let's go USA blah blah blah and the American way! blah blah blah)

This hasn't been the case for a lot of other Western countries recently, especially European ones where "capitalism" has become a bad word. However, many pro-America politician types like to tout American's victory against socialism and communism quite often. We even changed the national anthem to stick it to them godless commies. That was also the point of the entire space race.
The better argument would be to point out how we did explicitly champion for "capitalism" during the cold war against the USSR, but setting that aside no, the USA does not tend to carry out "feats of capitalism" that the gov't then boasts about as evidence of its system's superiority. China does. N. Korea does. Russia did.
 

Rentahamster

Rodent Whores
Yeah, nobody will be going anywhere in the US in about a month. Be ready for complete shut down of just about everything. Schools, jobs, Sports games, movie theaters, hotels, restaurants, coffee places, etc.

I wouldn't be surprised if the US gov eventually gave tax breaks for companies that voluntarily shut down within the next three weeks.
Chill out on the fearmongering until there is a real reason to go apeshit.

I really hope I am wrong, we will likely know next week.
I think you are.

China is going to bear the brunt of this, and as long as the virus doesn't take a foothold in some shithole country with shitty healthcare, the world should be fine. I'd be very surprised if this thing kills more people than the annual flu.
 

GAMETA

Banned
Hmmm



One step down from an order to leave.


How do you Americans feel about bringing in potential threats to the country security?

Brazil's president said he won't evacuate civilians families that are in Wuhan stating he can't put the country in danger for single families...

I myself am not sure where the line should be drawn, I mean, I suppose the US has far greater and better measures to contain and quarantine than Brazil does, but leaving people behind doesn't fell right as well.
 
How do you Americans feel about bringing in potential threats to the country security?

Brazil's president said he won't evacuate civilians families that are in Wuhan stating he can't put the country in danger for single families...

I myself am not sure where the line should be drawn, I mean, I suppose the US has far greater and better measures to contain and quarantine than Brazil does, but leaving people behind doesn't fell right as well.

I would imagine they'll be held in quarantine for a bit to make sure they're not sick before they let them loose back home.
 
I did though.

I think regime change wars fall under that umbrella, but that might be my own agenda talking.
Regime change would definitely be a case of power projection, but again I do not see this being similar to how communist nations make public works a banner for their ideology. Invasions and American adventurism are not propped up as banners of capitalism. I mean... maybe nation rebuilding could be a form of capitalist boasting but we haven't really pulled that off successfully since the 50s.
 

Rentahamster

Rodent Whores
Regime change would definitely be a case of power projection, but again I do not see this being similar to how communist nations make public works a banner for their ideology. Invasions and American adventurism are not propped up as banners of capitalism. I mean... maybe nation rebuilding could be a form of capitalist boasting but we haven't really pulled that off successfully since the 50s.
Well, they're both cases of using large amounts of government money to achieve a certain end. China builds hospitals, we bomb them. The end result of both propaganda actions are more or less the same in its objectives.

My argument is constrained by the premise that American nationalsim is so closely tied with capitalism as one of its core tenants of identity that promoting the former comes hand in hand with promoting the latter. This is particularly true when America is "exporting democracy" (not just any democracy, the American capitalistic freedom democracy) to other nations via war. We may not specifically say "capitalism" in the propaganda media, but that is inherently implied when talking about promoting "American values".

Of course, if you don't think my premise is true, then my argument doesn't hold water for you, which is fine.
 
I guess it depends on how strongly we wish to hinge the argument on what I meant by "prove the efficacy of capitalism" Rentahamster Rentahamster but I do see where you are coming from. I would ask what American is trying to "prove" that it hasn't already proven, if we are going to frame it that way. China as a nation is still recovering from Mao and trying to show they are a world power. USA is a world power. I hope this better explains where I am coming from.
 
Science does not deny reality. People like you do. Science will tell us if Asians are more predisposed to contracting the virus, while folks like you go around spreading misinformation (denying reality, in other words).
We got another racist here guys! Next he's going to talk about the ACE-2 receptor, and how it's more prevalent among Asians.
 
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Rentahamster

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I guess it depends on how strongly we wish to hinge the argument on what I meant by "prove the efficacy of capitalism" Rentahamster Rentahamster but I do see where you are coming from. I would ask what American is trying to "prove" that it hasn't already proven, if we are going to frame it that way. China as a nation is still recovering from Mao and trying to show they are a world power. USA is a world power. I hope this better explains where I am coming from.
Sure, in terms of "proof", American has proven many times over that it's a superpower and that its economic and political system outspent and outbombed its adversaries to submission. That's history at this point. However, American still expends much effort in order to maintain this proof. The Cold War is over. WW2 is long gone. Yet, America still spends more than what, like the next 8 nations combined on our military? We're still flexing.
 
Sure, in terms of "proof", American has proven many times over that it's a superpower and that its economic and political system outspent and outbombed its adversaries to submission. That's history at this point. However, American still expends much effort in order to maintain this proof. The Cold War is over. WW2 is long gone. Yet, America still spends more than what, like the next 8 nations combined on our military? We're still flexing.
Aren't we talking about two different kinds of "prove" though at this point? That is what I am getting at. America has nothing to prove and doesn't really make overt statements linking their public works to the efficacy of their system. If anything, we mock our crumbling public infrastructure as "proof" of how our capitalist system is broken.

We may engage in foreign meddling and power projection, but not even our warhawks are trying to claim that we must maintain this behavior in order to "prove" that America's system is strong (actually, I'm sure one or two have, but as a general sentiment, no).

For the sake of clarity,

"prove" could mean "attempting to demonstrate something that has not yet been demonstrated, or is widely contested", like in the case of China.
"prove" could also simply mean "carrying out the actions to reaffirm a proof", like in the USA's case.
 
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Seems to be relatively close to this 47% geometric progression so far. Tomorrow's data will be interesting

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The numbers are behind today. Good.
 
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