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Mask Efficacy |OT| Wuhan!! Got You All In Check

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What? You mean the thumbnail? HSR is the symbol of 21st century China. It's the infrastructure highlight. To put things into perspective, China spends $1.5-$2 trillion every 12 months on it.
 
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Rentahamster

Rodent Whores
Western propaganda is at like .0001% of what the Chinese have enforced on their own people. Your argument is not very persuasive.
Iraq War cheerleading, Operation Mockingbird, Russian Collusion nonsense, impeachment sensationalism, etc - I'd say Western propaganda has a bit worse record than you give it credit for.
 

Croatoan

They/Them A-10 Warthog
Here in London, it feels as if people are too laid back about this. Most people I've spoken to are joking about it. I mean it's airborne and spreads easily, it has a two week incubation period, and there is no vaccine or cure. That sounds quite bad.
It isn't airborne and it has a average 5 day incubation period. Very rarely is it two weeks....
 

12Goblins

Lil’ Gobbie
It isn't airborne and it has a average 5 day incubation period. Very rarely is it two weeks....

Yup and you pretty much have to have comorbidities for the virus to kill you. On top of how great China has been this time around, as well as the WHO, we should be very thankful.

Meanwhile those who live in Ignorance and confusion will continue to postulate garbage theories that this is.a Chinese developed HIV bio weapon that target race specific DNA or some shit. Info wars is fake news guys - Keep that shit out of this thread.
 
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I wonder if they released it on purpose. If not they probably will do some day, or maybe we will do it. Anti-population growth zealots will commit atrocities. If this kills large numbers of elderly it may relieve some burden on pension and healthcare systems. If this was not purposely done for population control I bet next time it will be.
 
What? You mean the thumbnail? HSR is the symbol of 21st century China. It's the infrastructure highlight. To put things into perspective, China spends $1.5-$2 trillion every 12 months on it.

Damn, they spend $2,000,000,000 on it a year? And they couldn't even spend the dough to have a half decent photoshopped of it in a thumbnail for a video. Shame on you China. Shame.
 
Damn this video is really really good. You guys should watch.

"Anything in that zone (r0 of 4) is going to be unbelievably hard to stop, impossible I would say"

He then proceeds to say "I'm not trying to make you fearful I'm not trying to make you panic"


Ok...but you just say an r naught of 4 is impossible to stop. Which is ridiculous. Measles has an r0 of 12+ and it has been nearly eradicated. Same goes with diphtheria (r0 of 6 to 7), Polio (5-7), Mumps (4-7) etc etc.

Obviously those diseases arent like for like with corona virus but it is obvious that mankind has managed to handle diseases with high r naught values before. No reason to believe it cant again.
 

nush

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For every one of those disgusting videos that show animal cruelty from China (that are used for food not that it makes it better) there exists the European equivalent of teens/kids that do it for the lulz.

Not sure if you are agreeing or disagreeing with me. :unsure:
 

Croatoan

They/Them A-10 Warthog
"Anything in that zone (r0 of 4) is going to be unbelievably hard to stop, impossible I would say"

He then proceeds to say "I'm not trying to make you fearful I'm not trying to make you panic"


Ok...but you just say an r naught of 4 is impossible to stop. Which is ridiculous. Measles has an r0 of 12+ and it has been nearly eradicated. Same goes with diphtheria (r0 of 6 to 7), Polio (5-7), Mumps (4-7) etc etc.

Obviously those diseases arent like for like with corona virus but it is obvious that mankind has managed to handle diseases with high r naught values before. No reason to believe it cant again.
Any time someone says you must watch a video with some dude that looks like a used car salesman in the thumbnail it is usually not worth watching. Probably could say anytime anyone says to watch a video at all but there was one video in this thread, the one with the Chinese journalist, that was actually worth watching, so that generalization really wouldn't hold true.
 
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ManaByte

Banned
Is he still dating Chloe Bennett? If so let's hope there's not too many degrees of separation. /s

No she dumped the idiot.

I saw them at SDCC when they were dating and everyone wanted her autograph while ignoring the dumbass.
 

demigod

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So I have a cruise in a couple of months. Go/no go? I suspect it will be totally normal (ie just regular old Norwalk virus to worry about) but I wonder if the ship will either be empty or loaded with po'folk because the cruise line had to bottom out prices to get people on board after lots of early cancellations due to panic.

Am I already dead????

Nah dude you’re fine. Put me on your will before you go though.
 

V4skunk

Banned
It isn't airborne and it has a average 5 day incubation period. Very rarely is it two weeks....
It is airborne, can be spread by physical contact and the incubation period is 8 to 14 days.
There is almost certainly thousands already dead on China.
The media black out is very real.
 
It is airborne, can be spread by physical contact and the incubation period is 8 to 14 days.
There is almost certainly thousands already dead on China.
The media black out is very real.

Nah it isnt technically an airborne transmitted infection. Airborne transmitted infections are carried on dust particles and droplet nuclei and can remain in the air for extended periods of time because they can be dried out and still manage to transmit thr disease. As far as I know there are relatively few diseases capable of airborne transmission. The coronavirus is a "droplet contact" style of transmission. They are too heavy to remain in the air for long.
 
This did not need to be a 20 minute video. You can find all this info in one article.

You can also find all that info in an article that is more level headed in its delivery. This fuckin guy is on some other shit. I can't help but think videos like that one (and many many more on youtube) are as long as they are because it drives ad revenue. Which lines their pockets of course.
 

V4skunk

Banned
I thought this was less deadly than the standard flu?
So explain the media black out and the fact that a country of 1.7 billion people is in full quarantine?

if this was airborne we would all be dead. airborne diseases like measles have an R0 of 12+
It is airborne and an entire country of 1.7 billion people is in full lock down with the WHO declaring it a global emergency.
The amount of people dead is much greater than 200 people and the number of infected is a hundred times more than the 10k the fake news tells us about.
 
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So explain the media black out and the fact that a country of 1.7 billion people is in full quarantine?

Well we have no way of explaining such a thing though the leading theory thus far is this was a man made virus that somehow got loose. Obviously China as a country would be wanting to keep things quiet in regards to any of that. Time will tell if that theory has any truth to it.

China is a country that is fiercely based upon outward impressions to the world. It is constantly boasting of its achievements. Look a few posts above, the live feed of the hospital being built has a random shitty photoshop of a high speed rail in its thumbnail. It is ridiculous. Gotta show the world how modern they are all the time! It drives the propaganda train at home and they use the same tactics to project the same thing to the outside world. This is a country that has its hands in the global economic pie, even if it is just a random new virus with no nefarious goings ons, it is going to try and downplay any concerns.
 

V4skunk

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Well we have no way of explaining such a thing though the leading theory thus far is this was a man made virus that somehow got loose. Obviously China as a country would be wanting to keep things quiet in regards to any of that. Time will tell if that theory has any truth to it.

China is a country that is fiercely based upon outward impressions to the world. It is constantly boasting of its achievements. Look a few posts above, the live feed of the hospital being built has a random shitty photoshop of a high speed rail in its thumbnail. It is ridiculous. Gotta show the world how modern they are all the time! It drives the propaganda train at home and they use the same tactics to project the same thing to the outside world. This is a country that has its hands in the global economic pie, even if it is just a random new virus with no nefarious goings ons, it is going to try and downplay any concerns.
You realise that our own fake news is playing this down?
Also have you not noticed the lack of Chinese nationals posting videos to YouTube? And the few that have reportedly have been arrested?
The blackout is real.
Again this is much much worse than we are being told.
 
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You realise that our own fake news is playing this down?
Also have you not noticed the lack of Chinese nationals posting videos to YouTube? And the few that have reportedly have been arrested?
The blackout is real.
Again this is much much worse than we are being told.

Well for better or worse we'll know how it is once (and if) outbreaks start in other countries.

If it tears through India, they'll be upfront about it and we can all agree that China's been hiding details.
 

V4skunk

Banned
Well for better or worse we'll know how it is once (and if) outbreaks start in other countries.

If it tears through India, they'll be upfront about it and we can all agree that China's been hiding details.
There are confirmed cases all over the world......
We will see how bad it really is with in the next 2 weeks, when it starts to hit the west properly.
I really do hope the virus is nothing, because the lack of preparation world wide is insane.
 
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You realise that our own fake news is playing this down?
Also have you not noticed the lack of Chinese nationals posting videos to YouTube? And the few that have reportedly have been arrested?
The blackout is real.
Again this is much much worse than we are being told.

Oh I don't doubt it is much worse than what is being told. The simple fact that information is coming from the Chinese government should be enough to know that the full truth isnt being told.
 
If there really was a western anti-China propaganda agenda we would be hearing about Uighurs and the concentration camps a lot more than we do, which is very little.

The fact of the matter is the western left which controls everything mainstream, idolizes communist socialist ideologies and regularly use Maoist tactics to achieve their goals. They basically want us to become more like China.

China defenders always come at it as a simple east vs west thing which is a complete misread on the situation.

The left wants that because it will be good for the stressed out citizens, but 'national interest' and 'corporate profits' are against this.
Even if they implement more socialist policies in America, that still will not make China or Russia friends because of the military industrial complex has such a large role over the American system. Geopolitics is a delicate balance on all sides, both the brand image of a country, and the behind-the-scenes dirty work that occurs (ie. Epstein case) are part of it.

As a Canadian who's ethnically Chinese, I really identify with peace and harmony, so I really hope for more cooperation between the America and China. However, based on the way Xinjiang and HK is being propagated in the MSM without much reference to the complexities behind these issues, this relationship does not look so good, at least under Trump and his stressed out nationalist voters. In the case of Xinjiang... it was a response to a wave of violent terrorist attacks to destabilize the country through the spread of fear. I mean China does not want to bomb nor destroy its own territory and its citizens, contrary to the American response to 911, so what is the 'humane' way for them to deal with this threat?

The main problem is one of trust due to the history of the world. China was invaded by foreign powers before, so as she rises, it is only natural for past "enemies" to be a bit fearful. However, the "enemies" of America naturally are more welcoming towards China's rise which protects them from American imperial interests. I wish all the elites can just chill and take some LSD, but that's not the way monkey tribes work. What we should do is work together, try to fix global inequality, and protect the environment. I do not mind competition between China and America, but I do not like the promotion of hatred and fear... which leads to racism, nationalism, and classism. *Kumbaya my Lord, kumbaya* Reality is so beautiful, all just consciousness, the universal now, man. :messenger_grinning_sweat:
 
How dare people travel and try to see the world.

They should be happy with their local library, McDonald’s and Target
I get what you're trying to say, but it's silly for a couple different reasons. Idk where you live, but I can go my whole life where I am, and never go to those places. Also the shopping mall that is America has been globalized.
 


If doctors got arrested for talking too early have they been released?


His eyes are exposed. Does he already have it?
he is the guy that normally wears the googles but since he was on the plane and bus I guess he felt silly wearing them
he is not sick as far as I know he will be held for 2 weeks though
 
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