ThatStupidLion
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So with a 2 week incubation period we wont see the effects of the new year celebrations for a coiple weeks right? Essentially were still seeing quarentined numbers
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Mask Efficacy |OT| Wuhan!! Got You All In Check
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nush
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12Goblins
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The Chinese doctor who tried to warn others about coronavirus
When Li Wenliang warned about a Sars-like virus at his hospital in Wuhan, authorities tried to silence him.
www.bbc.com
Captain Zyrain
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What day did they quarantine Wuhan? Curious how that will impact the numbers with a time delay.
TheGreatYosh
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They must not be making enough profits off their HIV drugs. Now they are going to have a whole new market.
Pallas
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Im reading that the incubation period can be less than two weeks but yeah pretty much. I think aside from China maybe covering the true numbers, that they will steadily climb and maybe explode/skyrocket after Chinese New Year after a period of time.
Chairman Tickles
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I recall this doing the rounds yesterday all over twatter/reddit.
Only meaningful stats;
For hourly updates: https://news.sina.cn/zt_d/yiqing0121
Visual data: https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6
Now we know the virus doesn't spread from mother to baby;
Woman With Novel Corona Virus Delivered Healthy Baby (Testing Negative for the Virus) in Harbin
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bitbydeath
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Of course they still seem to have a plane fly directly out of Wuhan yesterday with over 200 people onboard so I don’t know exactly how quarantined they are.
Captain Zyrain
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Pallas
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Damn... I’m wondering what the ages of those that perished. Babies/children and the elderly are going to be the most vulnerable, obviously but I’m curious if it’s mortality rate include many teenagers/young adults.
V4skunk
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Yes in around 7-8 days give or take +/-.
Dr.Guru of Peru
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I honestly don't know how they're defining recovered since the virus is self resolving and likely take weeks to fully recover, but the total cases/total dead/total recovered are all growing at roughly the same rate, which would imply that the eventual mortality rate will likely be very close to the 2% rate.
Captain Zyrain
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Another thing that is weird is that each day the suspected case number is increasing, about in line with the actual cases.
I would guess a fair number of suspected cases turn into actual cases each day, but since they both keep growing it could almost be 1.5x as many cases. I doubt 100% of suspected cases turn into actual cases.. But we don't really know.
God damn Chiner and their lack of released details!
That'll show him.
I would guess a fair number of suspected cases turn into actual cases each day, but since they both keep growing it could almost be 1.5x as many cases. I doubt 100% of suspected cases turn into actual cases.. But we don't really know.
God damn Chiner and their lack of released details!
That'll show him.
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bitbydeath
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The scary part is that the numbers are only creeping because that’s all the staff can get through in a day and record.
It’s not new people showing up, it’s likely people that have been waiting to be seen for a long period of time and only going away and spreading it further.
Captain Zyrain
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I saw another report that said something like 200,000 people were under medical observation.. Wonder how many of those will turn into cases.
First death in Hong Kong today too.
Macau is closing its casinos for half a month too due to outbreak.
nush
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Only one land border crossing remains open from mainland China to Hong Kong.
Hong Kong faces escalated medical strike despite expanded border closures
Hospital Authority says services ‘seriously affected’ as about 2,700 staff skip work in bid to force government into total border shutdown as city confirms first human-to-human transmission of deadly virus.
www.scmp.com
That's going to be a potential infection point as there will be 1000's of people packed into one building for hours trying to get through the border and they are usually busy at the best of times.
MiyazakiHatesKojima
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Nuclear War has a higher chance of mass deathtolls in comparison to this silly coronavirus "pandemic".
DunDunDunpachi
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Truly terrifying. I know it was a suggestion and not a court passing down a ruling, but this is how you justify bulldozing entire "quarantine zones" into the ovens. Certainly, spreading the disease on purpose is despicable and should be punished, but how does that innocent chinese family prove they weren't spreading the disease on purpose?
Gp1
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I had booked a bunch of AliExpress stuff this winter and i canceled it last week. Not 100% due to this, but when weighing the pro's and con's, it definitely factored in.
Wwg1wga
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Angry Chinese elderly woman spitting on a pharmacist following a spat over what appears to be an argument about medicines for coronavirus.
DunDunDunpachi
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Wow, elderly woman was obviously trying to infect the worker with coronavirus.
Off to the organ-harvesting ambulance with her.
lyan
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Well I think even if no one gets infected from this point onward the ~400 died and ~700 recovered figure would both continue to change among the 20k already infected.
Wwg1wga
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Coronavirus patients are deliberately spitting at health care workers
Jessika Bailing, a South African teacher trapped Wuhan, the city at the centre of the outbreak, claimed patients were spitting at doctor's faces and on elevator buttons.
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redfirm
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A county in China is offering people $140 to tell on neighbors who have visited Wuhan, and another is threatening the death penalty to anyone deliberately spreading the coronavirus
A county in China is offering people $140 to tell on neighbors who have visited Wuhan, and another is threatening the death penalty to anyone deliberately spreading the coronavirus
China has been struggling to contain the coronavirus epidemic, which initially broke out in the central province of Hubei.
www.businessinsider.nl
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Croatoan
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So I keep seeing people (here and otherwise) claim that China's response to this (shut down) does not jive with the numbers, specifically the death numbers. People then use this to claim that the deaths must be an order of magnitude higher, but I think there might be another reason for this that, while not as sensationalized, is probably more likely than china covering up tens of thousands already dead.
I think the CCP ran the numbers early and realized that at least 20-25% of people required hospitalization. They then looked at their massive population and number of hospital beds/intensive care units and realized that without drastic measures their entire country's healthcare system would be completely overwhelmed and a virus that kills ~2%, or less, of people would have a death toll many times higher.
It's my opinion that China has acted so drastically because they know how bad it "could' get not how bad it currently is. Wuhan is just a small taste of what could really happen if they didn't do what they have done to contain things.
So the issue with nCOV is hospitalization rate and not really its "initial" death rate.
Wanna know something scary?
China has a population of 1,386,000,000 and they currently have 33,000 hospitals. That's 1 hospital for every 42,000 people.
The United States has a population of 327,200,000 and we currently have ~6,000 hospitals. That's 1 hospital for every 54,533 people.
Wanna know something less scary?
The United States has way, way, less population density and way way better hygiene and cleanliness standards compared to china.
Also, the current US plan seems to be containing nCOV and limiting spread until May when the summer starts and the virus will be less able to spread. If we are lucky then global warming may save us and we will have the hottest spring on record.
Regardless, if there is an outbreak in the US like there is in China the US can, and likely will, take the same draconian measures to quarantine people. Martial law exists for a reason, rights be damned.
I think the CCP ran the numbers early and realized that at least 20-25% of people required hospitalization. They then looked at their massive population and number of hospital beds/intensive care units and realized that without drastic measures their entire country's healthcare system would be completely overwhelmed and a virus that kills ~2%, or less, of people would have a death toll many times higher.
It's my opinion that China has acted so drastically because they know how bad it "could' get not how bad it currently is. Wuhan is just a small taste of what could really happen if they didn't do what they have done to contain things.
So the issue with nCOV is hospitalization rate and not really its "initial" death rate.
Wanna know something scary?
China has a population of 1,386,000,000 and they currently have 33,000 hospitals. That's 1 hospital for every 42,000 people.
The United States has a population of 327,200,000 and we currently have ~6,000 hospitals. That's 1 hospital for every 54,533 people.
Wanna know something less scary?
The United States has way, way, less population density and way way better hygiene and cleanliness standards compared to china.
Also, the current US plan seems to be containing nCOV and limiting spread until May when the summer starts and the virus will be less able to spread. If we are lucky then global warming may save us and we will have the hottest spring on record.
Regardless, if there is an outbreak in the US like there is in China the US can, and likely will, take the same draconian measures to quarantine people. Martial law exists for a reason, rights be damned.
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synchronicity
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Captain Zyrain
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... Wut
Punishment?
Punishment?
VertigoOA
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vpance
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CNN interviewed the Chinese doctor whistleblower.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/03/asia/coronavirus-doctor-whistle-blower-intl-hnk/index.html
Could just be Western propaganda tho rite
https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/03/asia/coronavirus-doctor-whistle-blower-intl-hnk/index.html
Could just be Western propaganda tho rite
spandexmonkey
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synchronicity
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"The internet is not a land beyond the law ... Any unlawful acts of fabricating, spreading rumors and disturbing the social order will be punished by police according to the law, with zero tolerance," said a police statement on Weibo, China's Twitter-like platform.
Sounds like a fun place to live.
"disturbing the social order"...hmm, I don't suppose this disease may be doing just that. Lock it up.
Omega Supreme Holopsicon
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Problem is I hear 5 million people left wuhan prior to quarantine being implemented.
5 million people left Wuhan before China quarantined the city to contain the coronavirus outbreak
The Lunar New Year, during which Chinese citizens return to their hometowns, likely played a role in the mass exodus.
www.businessinsider.com
Captain Zyrain
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China mouthpiece so who knows, but if true.. interesting.
Also... eek!
Also... eek!
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Why would CNN do that? No China fucked up ... again . Now it’s time to sit on the blisters.
Why because desperation can make people do things “taking your own life? Escaping? Fever can make you delirious ... could also cause fleeing .Why do hospital windows require bars?
10000
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Why do hospital windows require bars?
I think isolation and locking infected patients like this is pretty much better, they are doing rational thing in this case
out of thousands infected, there will be some people try to sneak outside, carrying the risk to contaminate others with their touch, accidental droplet or cough.
at least they are providing meals and medics there, but the bed looks uncomfortable
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Captain Zyrain
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Making it so the window is one piece of glass/plastic that doesn't open is one thing, actual, physical bars is a bit extreme to me personally.
Tis spreading season
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Gp1
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Probably because is not reinforced glass. Remember that they build this thing in 10 days.
i cant get nowhere close to a "pre" building permit in 10 days here.
GAMETA
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Mr. Soros smiles as he feels the warmth of nostalgia.A county in China is offering people $140 to tell on neighbors who have visited Wuhan, and another is threatening the death penalty to anyone deliberately spreading the coronavirus
A county in China is offering people $140 to tell on neighbors who have visited Wuhan, and another is threatening the death penalty to anyone deliberately spreading the coronavirus
China has been struggling to contain the coronavirus epidemic, which initially broke out in the central province of Hubei.
Captain Zyrain
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*laughs in Chinese at building permits*
I'll give it to them, they can move mountains in no time when mobilized. It remains to be seen how well that translates to saving lives though.
It just seems... odd.. compared to them showing these FANG CANG places for "mild patients"..
It's almost like they're afeared the severe cases might die and reanimate...
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demigod
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She got spat in the face possibly getting infected but no worries, she'll just call the police on the elder woman.
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