The Lamonster
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I'm finally ready to check out ME3 on 360.
But first I must know - will I be able to import my ME1/ME2 character?
But first I must know - will I be able to import my ME1/ME2 character?
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Mass Effect 3 |OT| Space Jesus Returns (tag all spoilers)
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Why wouldn't you be able to do it? It's one of the main selling point of the trilogy.
Or do you mean import a character that was made from another platform? That's another story though. Can't tell you.
Dialogue options on the left were primarily to ask follow-up/investigative questions to learn more lore or backstory, and by the time we've gotten to the 3rd installment, we pretty much know all we need to know on those fronts. And truth be told the middle option (neutral) in ME1 and 2 generally tended to be the exact same lines as Paragon, it just gave you less paragon points, which in turn meant less Paragon/Renegade conversation options later in the game.
I ended up not even missing it in the long run.
Snacks the sober sea lion
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You don't need Sabotage. Tali spawns drones and EDI makes Decoys. If you do it well (and get lucky to some extent), the Primes won't even bother shooting at you most of the time.
No, not really. They were about specific situations, characters, etc. Had Bioware not neglected dialogue so much, there would have been plenty of options. What kind of fighting is going on here, how did this all start, who are you, just give us something other than "My commanding officer is dead please shoot all the bad guys for us." And if we don't need to know any lore, why does the game shove it into the players' faces constantly in awkward conversations? Shepard saying the Geth on the dreadnought are "throwing their lives away" and having Tali explain how Geth work, even though anyone who played Mass Effect or ME2 knows very well how Geth work, is a particular example.
And playing the game multiple times,, I am definitely missing the 3rd dialogue option, especially because of how polarized and shallow the Paragon/ Renegade options are in ME3. Paragon is Shepard telling everybody they did their best and distributing hugs, Renegade is telling them they brought this upon themselves, then kicking them in the shins.
Is this when you're on Rannoch? If so, there are several heavy weapons lying around that you can use as well. There should be one right in front as you get off the elevator.
The Lamonster
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I just remember that at release, it wasn't possible if it was a save file dating back to ME1, even if it's 360->360. Just asking if that's been resolved.
Barrow Roll
Member
That was never the case. You could still do it, and all your choices would carryover, but there were some issues with the face being improperly imported if your character dated back to ME1. I'm fairly certain this was "fixed," but due to the differences in the character creation sliders in ME3 I think your Shepard will come out looking a bit different anyways. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
The Lamonster
Member
Thanks, that's good enough for me! Going to jump back in soon.
The only issue i remember was that your Shepard's head wouldn't properly import. My blonde female shepard with a normal haircut could turn into a bald woman with white eyebrows. Been fixed a long time ago.
Kung Fu Grip
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Guess im just slow with games then.
Snacks the sober sea lion
Member
My semi-completionist Mass Effect 1 playthroughs only come up 35-50 hours and that's a much bigger game.
Well I finished it.
So that happened, huh. Not even getting moderately spoiled could've prepared for that onslaught of weirdness. A shame. Although I didn't enjoy the shooting gameplay all that much, I've always liked the characters best in the series. The people in charge really lost sight of what was important. I can only imagine how much worse the original ending was.
And how do you a make a sequel out of this, anyway?
So that happened, huh. Not even getting moderately spoiled could've prepared for that onslaught of weirdness. A shame. Although I didn't enjoy the shooting gameplay all that much, I've always liked the characters best in the series. The people in charge really lost sight of what was important. I can only imagine how much worse the original ending was.
And how do you a make a sequel out of this, anyway?
Actually you're wrong, and the fact that you can't perceive my correctness only emphasizes how idiotic you are. WHY DON'T YOU AGREE WITH ME!?
Snacks the sober sea lion
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What are you trying to argue? You said we don't need more lore. Clearly that isn't the case. The game throws lore you should already know in your face, so we know it isn't being ignored, and the existence of Javik and the Leviathan dlc shows there's still plenty of lore to be had. You were basically saying it's okay to cut features because Bioware didn't add any new content as far as characters or background go, which hardly speaks highly of Mass Effect 3 in the first place.
neogaf's sarcasm detector must be off today.
But to answer your point, I wasn't saying it's OK to cut features, just pointing out that the middle right dialog options in the past two games were largely redundant and did not make for any noticeable differences in the conversations.
To be honest, i never choose the middle option because it never gives Renegade and Paragon points.
But in a game like ME3 where these points aren't as important, the middle choice would have been nice.
Snacks the sober sea lion
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Now I just use save editor to give myself tons of Paragon and Renegade. The major choices make no sense within the limitations of a morality system. How is killing the heretic Geth more renegade than erasing who they are and forcing them to become the same as the rest of the Geth? I don't care if their programming is "Kill all humans (and everyone else)," how is brainwashing them more acceptable? Either way you've destroyed who they are. And then we get to the dialogue options. The discrepancy between Renegade dialogue and Renegade plot options is huge.
just for the way she was born? Renegade. Ask a soldier about the situation before asking if they're okay first? ALSO RENEGADE. The entire "morality = points" concept is horrible to begin with.
The thing is, Mass Effect 3 just has the least-interesting version of it by far in addition to removing the neutral option. I remember at one point in Mass Effect, an asari asks you to upload a virus into a rival corporation's system. I was sick of accepting side quests and she sounded full of shit, so I told her off and got Paragon points for refusing to take part in her petty, morally suspect corporate espionage. That's actually interesting. I don't know how Mass Effect 3 would have handled it. Probably replace her with a lesbian human trying to find her adopted turian son. No gray morality allowed in Mass Effect. I know this is sort of a Bioware thing with the good/ evil, but Mass Effect doesn't give you the choice to become a Sith Lord. You can talk through your problems or you can push people through windows, but either way you'll end up in the same place, all while the game pretends to give you a choice. And it becomes more strikingly obvious with each game, with Mass Effect 3 flat-out removing any options other than good or bad.
Execute Samara's daughter
The thing is, Mass Effect 3 just has the least-interesting version of it by far in addition to removing the neutral option. I remember at one point in Mass Effect, an asari asks you to upload a virus into a rival corporation's system. I was sick of accepting side quests and she sounded full of shit, so I told her off and got Paragon points for refusing to take part in her petty, morally suspect corporate espionage. That's actually interesting. I don't know how Mass Effect 3 would have handled it. Probably replace her with a lesbian human trying to find her adopted turian son. No gray morality allowed in Mass Effect. I know this is sort of a Bioware thing with the good/ evil, but Mass Effect doesn't give you the choice to become a Sith Lord. You can talk through your problems or you can push people through windows, but either way you'll end up in the same place, all while the game pretends to give you a choice. And it becomes more strikingly obvious with each game, with Mass Effect 3 flat-out removing any options other than good or bad.
Yeah, having done full paragon, renegade and neutral runs in both ME1 and ME2, neutral was 95% of the time the exact same dialogue as paragon, but only gave half as many paragon points. In ME2, they balanced it a bit more by giving a mix of paragon and renegade.
I think in ME3 they balanced that out by removing the whole paragon/renegade system and replacing it with the Reputation meter, which would unlock BOTH paragon/renegade options in certain contexts. It gave the illusion that it was less based on a history of answering one way the entire game and more that people out in the universe were aware of how influential Shepard was. It felt like it freed me to answer based on the situation, and not in order to maintain some abstract meter in the background.
jediyoshi
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sweetvar26
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I need to revive this thread.
I started playing ME3 again, never beat it, I was about 25% in the game. Now, I see that there is the extended ending DLC. Should I download it or should I beat the game, then download it and play the ending again?
I started playing ME3 again, never beat it, I was about 25% in the game. Now, I see that there is the extended ending DLC. Should I download it or should I beat the game, then download it and play the ending again?
Blue Ninja
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Depends. If you want to experience a decent ending from the get-go, download it. If you want to see what all the fuss was about, don't download it.
I'd download it, if only because the original ending is an abomination no one deserves to witness.
sweetvar26
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Alright then, I guess I will download the update and the DLC. May be I will watch the original ending on youtube after.
Thanks.
Hah, damn. I tried to talk to everyone after every encounter. Got tiring.
Melchiah
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Yeah, tell me about it. That goes for scanning the planets as well, especially as I scanned all of them. All the MEs have very tedious planet probing, which of course isn't mandatory, unless you're as neurotic as I am.
RyanardoDaVinci
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Yeah, tell me about it. That goes for scanning the planets as well, especially as I scanned all of them. All the MEs have very tedious planet probing, which of course isn't mandatory, unless you're as neurotic as I am.
Yup. First playthrough of ME1 took about 65hrs because I drove around every planet, surveying everything. ME2 took about the same time because I depleted every planet of its resources.
RPGCrazied
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Been playing this for 20 hours. Just did the Tchunka story missions. I really hate the space exploration in 3. Absolutely no reason to visit a planet unless something of value comes up in a scan. Mass Effect 1 had the best explorations. Thankfully I got From Ashes and Leviathan for Christmas presents from people. Why oh why is this paid DLC? I can understand Omega, but these 2 are so lore heavy, specially leviathan(deals with reaper stuff)its mind boggling this costs money. Thanks EA!
Some of the quests are poorly written, and hard to find where to go. Hanar Diplomat is bugged, if you leave the Citadel during it, you can't finish it. And for some odd reason I can't return to Bryons office in PS3 version. I just get an never ending loading screen.
Some of the quests are poorly written, and hard to find where to go. Hanar Diplomat is bugged, if you leave the Citadel during it, you can't finish it. And for some odd reason I can't return to Bryons office in PS3 version. I just get an never ending loading screen.
Melchiah
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About 68 hours for ME1 here, and somewhere between 55-60 hours for ME2/3. Personally, I thought the planet probing in ME2/3 was far less tiresome, than the Mako parts in ME1. The pointless driving around planets that looked pretty much the same, albeit in different colors, just didn't seem that much fun to me.
Sam Hulick, who did many of the ME musics, made a little 2 mins gift for the fans, not ME related, but still a nice sci-fi track :
https://www.sugarsync.com/pf/D043421_61979227_734237
Can't wait to see what he has done for the next DLC.
https://www.sugarsync.com/pf/D043421_61979227_734237
Can't wait to see what he has done for the next DLC.
Melchiah
Member
Cool. Thanks for sharing.
RPGCrazied
Member
Wow. I just beat it. So much crying over the ending? I didn't think it was that bad.
Of course this is my first time through this game with From Ashes and Leviathan installed, along with the extended cut ending. What was the ending like without this download? Also, is there three endings?
If its all the same ending, I won't play through the end again.
I pretty much knew Shepard was going to be sacraficed in some way.
I chose to control the reapers at the end, but you can also destroy them or meld your energies with the curicable?
Barrow Roll
Member
Each ending has different ramifications depending on your EMS rating, but ultimately you still
defeat the Reapers.
shoot the Catalyst or reject the choices.
You can find a list of things added or changed in the Extended Cut here.
http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Mass_Effect_3:_Extended_Cut
-- The Extended Cut fixed most of the egregious issues with the ending, so I can see why you might be confused as to why the original is so hated. You can watch the original RGB endings on Youtube, and I suggest you do so now that you've seen the "definitive" BioWare fix.
The original 3 endings used to be the
exact same thing, except with different colors for the Catalyst laser. It might be worth seeing the new Destroy and Synthesis endings since they're different enough now, but i would suggest just watching them on Youtube, unless you still have the save right at the beginning of the Citadel... otherwise you'll have to do the Cerberus base and Earth missions all over again.
You are boned if you are on the PC. I don't think they have ever discounted the ME3 DLC.
I don't know the exact number (3100?), but if you did most of the sidequests and scanned most of the planets you could find for hidden stuff, you should be ok.
Yeah I've been trying to do all of the side quests I can. They are just kind of boring and tedious. I'm really liking the main story missions a lot though. Leviathan and from ashes was cool. I'm at 26 hours or so and just finished the
geth, reaper business
Not much left, i think you only got 4 Priority missions left(with no new big side missions included with them like Tuchanka and Rannoch), and the last 2 count as a point of no return, so once you start the 3rd mission, there's no more time for sidequests and systems exploration.
Ok. Awesome. I'm trying to get all of these side missions done because I really don't care about the multiplayer and have been really wanting to play Far Cry 3.
Barrow Roll
Member
Make sure you have the Extended Cut installed since it dramatically reduces the required EMS rating for the best possible ending.
I do. Do you know what it lowered it to?
Barrow Roll
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3100 from 4000.
Doublesith
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Casey Hudson just dropped this concept art on Twitter:
The long rumored "Citadel" DLC?
The long rumored "Citadel" DLC?
So any word/idea about when this is coming out? I'm busy doing my first Mass Effect 3 replay (well, prep work for a replay which involves doing a 100 percent run of both ME1 and ME2) and I'm really hoping that maybe this will come out in a window that will allow it to be included.
I'm going to guess they might release it in early March, just to coincide with the 1 year release of the game.
Blue Ninja
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I might get both that and Omega at the same time then, have been holding off on it so far.