Amazon Canada was always like that though so it's nothing new. They are not good with shipping regarding new releases. You usually get the game 1-2 days late.
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Mass Effect 3 |OT| Space Jesus Returns (tag all spoilers)
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Amazon Canada was always like that though so it's nothing new. They are not good with shipping regarding new releases. You usually get the game 1-2 days late.
Gillian Seed
Banned
Karak
Member
This is about the way it goes. After 10 ours it wasn't any better but supposedly around 15 it gets good.
But this is sort of what I was saying before.
LOL
Not enough to make a difference. Unless you're playing on insanity or something.
Karak said:
10 hours of auto dialogue and almost no choices? I'm not going to make it through this game am I?
thetrin
Hail, peons, for I have come as ambassador from the great and bountiful Blueberry Butt Explosion
Enemies scale to you.
Red Blaster
Member
Wow, that's terrible. I didn't like ME2's story but its wealth of dialogue choices always made it fun to replay.
ScreenSplitter
Member
No, it definitely does. Fighting Scions without Incendiary Ammo is foolish.
MasterShotgun
brazen editing lynx
I'm at the same point you are, and I'm still on the fence about this. On one hand, having to stop less to choose dialogue does make for some nicer scenes. Characters were moving about the area a bit more instead of the typical BioWare "two characters face each other and talk" schtick. On the other hand, some of the auto-dialogue is too hammy. I want to say the issue is that the writing for Shepard is worse. However, I can't make a full judgment until I play the game with my two characters to see how much of the auto-dialogue is affected by your alignment.
It is pretty weak that BioWare gave us less choices in this regard, but I think the enhanced gameplay is definitely making up for it.
thetrin
Hail, peons, for I have come as ambassador from the great and bountiful Blueberry Butt Explosion
You seriously don't get it? He's showing pictures to you...
It's not about that. See the forest for the trees here bud.
I just played through on normal and they dropped quick enough with bullets. Incinerate works much more effectively than fire ammo anyway.
Here's the level up screen from Mass Effect 1. You increase your proficiency in all the different weapon types and you also have some speech skills in there. Having a low level at a certain weapon type made Shepard incompetent at using that weapon. It's a shooter, but also an RPG.
Now look at the one from ME2. You get a choice between fire bullets and ice bullets. You don't have to use either because shooting people in the face works well.
:_(
d00d3n
Member
If the enemies scale that is kind of cool, actually. Reminds me of Baldur's Gate.
Dave1988
Member
Mass Effect MMO.
Bruce Lee Kicks
Member
The way I look at it is - the casuals aren't gonna play the game for that long anyway, don't wanna "bore" them with too many RPG-ish elements. Heck, just about everyone on YouTube does "Auto Level-Up." -_-
Karak
Member
*Shrugs* it is what it is. I am sort of numb to it now and moving passed it. Got about 12-13 hours in. The game as a whole is ok. But that's about it right now. Lots of lose ends, lots of issues with the various new systems they introduced in this game that require coming to grips with. For me the sidequest system is really killing my enjoyment of something I would normally be 100% behind. I am also seeing a good number of bugs. Not game killing thankfully, but a damn high number of issues.
But it is important to remember that a flawed gem doesn't make the entire ring worth not owning. It is rare that a series I know and like goes from beginning to conclusion without a system change, or a long hiatus, or some other real world problem. So I am happy for that.
shinobi602
Member
Lol, fixed.
I would rather they don't focus on things that we know how they ended already.
I want a Garrus spin off where he joins the Spectres and you do missions throughout the game, tied to some major main plot. We were a spectre in ME1 but we never really worked as one. It was never anything more than a title that gave some extra stat boosts.
Oh and this game would be made by Obsidian so we don't get 10 hours of auto dialogue.
There's more to roleplaying than sliders and inventory management you know. It about making meaningful decisions based on the charachter that you roleplay as. This ME2 does better than 1.
In the demo, it seems to be cutscene after cutscene after cutscene. I thought to myself, WTF is this shit, MGS4?
Red Blaster
Member
This is my biggest problem with the auto-dialogue; Shepard comes off as an overdramatic idiot.
Stallion Free
Cock Encumbered
I'd appreciate this info as well. Origin is a cruel mistress.
EmCeeGramr
Member
Ugh, I have a nasty feeling that "one step forward, one step back" is going to be a defining attribute of this series forever.
I'd say they're about the same, or that ME2 is worse because it arbitrarily restricts you to certain things at key moments. (ME1 did this at pretty much one moment, and I've always considered it the worst Shepard moment in the game)
I'd say they're about the same, or that ME2 is worse because it arbitrarily restricts you to certain things at key moments. (ME1 did this at pretty much one moment, and I've always considered it the worst Shepard moment in the game)
Psychoward
Banned
Wait seriously? Less dialog trees?
nonononononononononono
nononononononono
Even just a little auto-dialog sucks, but almost none?
goddamit
nonononononononononono
nononononononono
Even just a little auto-dialog sucks, but almost none?
goddamit
No thank you... at the pace bioware is removing any and all rpg element´s like... talking... we would just have another CoD clone in 3rd person... full of explosions but with little actual character development.
ME3 GAF infinite loop engaged!
-WHAT, LESS AUTODIALOGUE?
*It gets much better after 15hours in
-Phew, thanks a lot!
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-WHAT, LESS AUTODIALOGUE?
*It gets much better after 15hours in
-Phew, thanks a lot!
...
-WHAT, LESS AUTODIALOGUE?
*It gets much better after 15hours in
-Phew, thanks a lot!
...
-WHAT, LESS AUTODIALOGUE?
*It gets much better after 15hours in
-Phew, thanks a lot!
...
-WHAT, LESS AUTODIALOGUE?
*It gets much better after 15hours in
-Phew, thanks a lot!
...
-WHAT, LESS AUTODIALOGUE?
*It gets much better after 15hours in
-Phew, thanks a lot!
...
Confidence Man
Member
I wonder if they had to streamline dialogue options to save space on the disc. Hard to believe they could be so misguided as to think removing opportunities to choose responses was somehow beneficial to the experience.
shinobi602
Member
Lol was just about to say this.
15 hours in is like 75-80% of the way through an ME game.
Tony Redgrave
Member
Here's the level up screen from Mass Effect 1. You increase your proficiency in all the different weapon types and you also have some speech skills in there. Having a low level at a certain weapon type made Shepard incompetent at using that weapon. It's a shooter, but also an RPG.
Now look at the one from ME2. You get a choice between fire bullets and ice bullets. You don't have to use either because shooting people in the face works well.
Yeah, so? Many of ME's abilities were redundant or useless or were there just to give the impression of being complex, ME2 might have been a little too much trimmed down (BioWare recognized this a long time ago too) but it was also most focused and to the point. Having more skill points to spend or lots of armor/weapons retextures just hanging around to be turned into omnigel didn't make ME1 a better game or a better RPG.
So is this going to be the new FF13 where you have to play half to 75% of the game to get to the real RPG stuff?
Ventilaator
Banned
If you use the dictionary definition of role playing, then sure. In video game terms RPG means numbers, sliders and inventory. Heavy Rain wasn't anyone's favourite RPG of it's year. I think.
Speedymanic
Banned
Well, fuck....my ME2 save is corrupt for some inexplicable reason. Guess I'll just have to play through with the default choices until I can be bothered to replay ME2 again.
Not happy at all, but it's my own fault for not backing it up on a mem card.
Not happy at all, but it's my own fault for not backing it up on a mem card.
I replayed ME2 for the 5th time a couple months ago doing everything and it took me 37 hours. 15 hours will likely be about halfway in 3.
ScreenSplitter
Member
Please don't use FF13 as an example of a good RPG.
Funny, I've never been able to get past 20 hours with EITHER game, and that includes do-everything runs.
bishopcruz
Member
Can we put in the OP that there ARE dialogue choices, it seems like every page or so we go over the same thing.
At the veey leaat we could say there are conflicting reports about it.
At the veey leaat we could say there are conflicting reports about it.
Red Blaster
Member
I beat ME2 in 13 hours right before starting ME3
I don't see anyone saying there aren't dialogue choices, the issue is that they're so few and far in-between (so far) that there may as well not be any.
Hope so
I don't see how that is possible, unless you skipped all dialogue options.
I honestly don't know how it took 37 but 27 to 35 hours is typical for me for a first run.