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Mass Effect 3 |OT| Space Jesus Returns (tag all spoilers)
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therealminime
Member
Do reviews drop today?
Psychoward
Banned
wtfisthisshit
srsly
And they're intellectually poorer for it.
It now has more in common with gears or halo than any normal rpg out there. The worst part is it doesn't even emulate THOSE things well either. It's a poor man's TPS with a conversation wheel.
KingItachi
Member
I think reviews go up tomorrow.
backflip10019
Member
It'll ship today, you guys. It always does.
TangoAlphaLima
Member
Finished the ME2 Arrival DLC this weekend. Amazon has the status of my Collector's Edition of ME3, which I ordered with release date delivery, as "Shipping Soon." My body is ready.
RPG is my favorite genre and I sympathize with people who want Mass Effect to be a true space opera RPG, which is something we basically never get. But it's just as clear that Bioware doesn't want to make that game, so I don't personally see the point in wishing for it.
They want Mass Effect to sell much more than it already does and all of their design decisions and marketing tactics are geared toward increasing mainstream acceptance for the franchise. With ME3 they removed any pretense otherwise with those Action/Story/RPG playthrough options. When that was revealed it was totally unsurprising.
Maybe if they lend the Mass Effect franchise to Obsidian to mess with we'll get something truly interesting, though I don't see that ever happening.
As it stands I'm okay with the Mass Effect franchise as a solid third-person shooter, and a shooter that's much more interesting than most that we get. Some people view that as an insult though I don't particularly see why, given Bioware's intentions.
I've said this before - ME2 is disappointing relative to your typical RPG, but relative to your typical shooter, it's a gem. Vastly more interesting characters, dialogue, world and general art design/music than you'll find in 90% of shooters this gen. Approaching it from that viewpoint, the series is generally fine by me, outside of the misjudged combat of the first.
I disagree with that. I'm going through an Insanity run right now and ME2's combat feels very solid outside of some of the primitive elements of the cover system (like not being able to bounce cover-to-cover), which I understand has been tweaked in ME3.
ScreenSplitter
Member
No... no it doesn't. That's a really silly thing to say.
eternaLightness
Member
Any word on how large the install is on PS3?
RPG is my favorite genre and I sympathize with people who want Mass Effect to be a true space opera RPG, which is something we basically never get. But it's just as clear that Bioware doesn't want to make that game, so I don't personally see the point in wishing for it.
They want Mass Effect to sell much more than it already does and all of their design decisions and marketing tactics are geared toward increasing mainstream acceptance for the franchise. With ME3 they removed any pretense otherwise with those Action/Story/RPG playthrough options. When that was revealed it was totally unsurprising.
Maybe if they lend the Mass Effect franchise to Obsidian to mess with we'll get something truly interesting, though I don't see that ever happening.
As it stands I'm okay with the Mass Effect franchise as a solid third-person shooter, and a shooter that's much more interesting than most that we get. Some people view that as an insult though I don't particularly see why, given Bioware's intentions.
I've said this before - ME2 is disappointing relative to your typical RPG, but relative to your typical shooter, it's a gem. Vastly more interesting characters, dialogue, world and general art design/music than you'll find in 90% of shooters this gen. Approaching it from that viewpoint, the series is generally fine by me, outside of the misjudged combat of the first.
I agree with all of your points here. This pretty much outlines my disappointment and the reason behind other's disappointments with ME2 and now ME3.
I find this whole "we want to make more money so lets cater to people who wouldn't otherwise be interested by making it more of a shooter" insulting, on a base level. It's not a game for them, stop trying to make it into something it's not. Sure that comes off as elitist but I really don't care because it's how I feel from the bottom of my heart.
Having played the demo of ME3, it doesn't feel any less clunky than ME2, and the very close camera and extremely poor animations (W/r/t movement) worsen this effect for me.
RPG is my favorite genre and I sympathize with people who want Mass Effect to be a true space opera RPG, which is something we basically never get. But it's just as clear that Bioware doesn't want to make that game, so I don't personally see the point in wishing for it.
They want Mass Effect to sell much more than it already does and all of their design decisions and marketing tactics are geared toward increasing mainstream acceptance for the franchise. With ME3 they removed any pretense otherwise with those Action/Story/RPG playthrough options. When that was revealed it was totally unsurprising.
Maybe if they lend the Mass Effect franchise to Obsidian to mess with we'll get something truly interesting, though I don't see that ever happening.
As it stands I'm okay with the Mass Effect franchise as a solid third-person shooter, and a shooter that's much more interesting than most that we get. Some people view that as an insult though I don't particularly see why, given Bioware's intentions.
I've said this before - ME2 is disappointing relative to your typical RPG, but relative to your typical shooter, it's a gem. Vastly more interesting characters, dialogue, world and general art design/music than you'll find in 90% of shooters this gen. Approaching it from that viewpoint, the series is generally fine by me, outside of the misjudged combat of the first.
I disagree with that. I'm going through an Insanity run right now and ME2's combat feels very solid outside of some of the primitive elements of the cover system (like not being able to bounce cover-to-cover), which I understand has been tweaked in ME3.
Fucking this. Beautifully stated.
ScreenSplitter
Member
I love how in these tweets its taking 23 minutes for the Reaper to even launch of an attack.
Also, Firefly; "Reapers incoming!" ...really?
Also, Firefly; "Reapers incoming!" ...really?
Not for Canadians it won't. It won't even ship till the 9th for some fucking reason. Last time I buy from Amazon.
ScreenSplitter
Member
Wow, I thought we had it bad not being able to play till the 9th.
Cancel your order to get it from a brick and mortar. Unless you're a CE guy.
Lol, i'm even more glad i preordered it at my local EB Games. They have the game since saturday and i'll be able to pick it up tomorrow.
bigace33
Member
Skipping over ME 1 or ME 2 would be tragic. ME1 was an excellent introduction to the ME universe, ME 2 was more action packed and was more about the characters you gathered for this dangerous mission. I place the Mass Effect series among some of the greatest pieces of entertainment ever released. Before you die you should experience the entire ME trilogy and also:
TV - Lonesome Dove
Music- Stevie Wonder Songs in the Key of Life
Movies- The Godfather trilogy (yes, even 3)
These are pieces of entertainment that every man or woman should experience in their entirety before they leave this earth. In short, do not skip ME 1 or 2. Thanks for your time.
TV - Lonesome Dove
Music- Stevie Wonder Songs in the Key of Life
Movies- The Godfather trilogy (yes, even 3)
These are pieces of entertainment that every man or woman should experience in their entirety before they leave this earth. In short, do not skip ME 1 or 2. Thanks for your time.
backflip10019
Member
Really? Damn, sorry to hear that. Wouldn't have brought it up if I knew that. Ugh.
Logic? In a Mass Effect thread? Well I never!RPG is my favorite genre and I sympathize with people who want Mass Effect to be a true space opera RPG, which is something we basically never get. But it's just as clear that Bioware doesn't want to make that game, so I don't personally see the point in wishing for it.
They want Mass Effect to sell much more than it already does and all of their design decisions and marketing tactics are geared toward increasing mainstream acceptance for the franchise. With ME3 they removed any pretense otherwise with those Action/Story/RPG playthrough options. When that was revealed it was totally unsurprising.
Maybe if they lend the Mass Effect franchise to Obsidian to mess with we'll get something truly interesting, though I don't see that ever happening.
As it stands I'm okay with the Mass Effect franchise as a solid third-person shooter, and a shooter that's much more interesting than most that we get. Some people view that as an insult though I don't particularly see why, given Bioware's intentions.
I've said this before - ME2 is disappointing relative to your typical RPG, but relative to your typical shooter, it's a gem. Vastly more interesting characters, dialogue, world and general art design/music than you'll find in 90% of shooters this gen. Approaching it from that viewpoint, the series is generally fine by me, outside of the misjudged combat of the first.
Wow, I am getting mine from futureshop. Hopefully, I'll see it on 7th (delivery is on 6th at my office).
GodfatherX
Member
wtfisthisshit
srsly
i can tell you this is typical of amazon, and also that you will get it tomorrow if you chose release date delivery...its common for it to show it hasnt shipped until the day of release
my walmart.com order though im starting to worry about
wtfisthisshit
srsly
Come on. EVERY GAME RELEASE we see these types of posts, and 99.99% of the time, Amazon gets it there the day of release.
That's pretty neat that they did that. Looked neat.
On that note though I think I'm out for a while until I get a ways into the game. See you Shepard's on the other side.
Ventilaator
Banned
I can say for sure that my memories of ME1 aren't rose tinted because I got into the series later and went straight from ME1 to ME2 on the same day.
Didn't like ME2 at all by the end of the first day with it. Continued on because everyone said it was Game of the Year and because ME1 was so awesome, but I had to force myself through.
Didn't like ME2 at all by the end of the first day with it. Continued on because everyone said it was Game of the Year and because ME1 was so awesome, but I had to force myself through.
Psychoward
Banned
RPG is my favorite genre and I sympathize with people who want Mass Effect to be a true space opera RPG, which is something we basically never get. But it's just as clear that Bioware doesn't want to make that game, so I don't personally see the point in wishing for it.
They want Mass Effect to sell much more than it already does and all of their design decisions and marketing tactics are geared toward increasing mainstream acceptance for the franchise. With ME3 they removed any pretense otherwise with those Action/Story/RPG playthrough options. When that was revealed it was totally unsurprising.
Maybe if they lend the Mass Effect franchise to Obsidian to mess with we'll get something truly interesting, though I don't see that ever happening.
As it stands I'm okay with the Mass Effect franchise as a solid third-person shooter, and a shooter that's much more interesting than most that we get. Some people view that as an insult though I don't particularly see why, given Bioware's intentions.
I've said this before - ME2 is disappointing relative to your typical RPG, but relative to your typical shooter, it's a gem. Vastly more interesting characters, dialogue, world and general art design/music than you'll find in 90% of shooters this gen. Approaching it from that viewpoint, the series is generally fine by me, outside of the misjudged combat of the first.
I disagree with that. I'm going through an Insanity run right now and ME2's combat feels very solid outside of some of the primitive elements of the cover system (like not being able to bounce cover-to-cover), which I understand has been tweaked in ME3.
This, this is exactly how I feel about this franchise, that and the overall writing of the game seemed more dumbed down than the first, Why cant games keep a consistent story!?
Take a guess which one I have. I'm going to try and go to a Futureshop tomorrow that's near my work. For some reason these guys always seem to have extra CE's of games, so if I manage to get it, amazon can take a flying leap.
TangoAlphaLima
Member
And if they don't get it there on release day, people have generally been able to get a free gift certificate or credited part of the purchase back after talking with Amazon Customer Service.
Tony Redgrave
Member
I still don't get the "Mass Effect isn't an RPG anymore" crowd, it never was it was conceived as an RPG/Shooter hybrid from the get go, part of his appeal was the concept of making it appealing to the masses and that's exactly what the franchise has accomplished as it's insanely popular today.
There's not even that much of a difference aside from the combat from ME1 to ME3 at all, most of the things people complain about are design choices that don't have anything with role-playing, and I think it's pretty clear by now that for the purpose of the story the cluncky ME1 combat wasn't the best choice at all.
There's not even that much of a difference aside from the combat from ME1 to ME3 at all, most of the things people complain about are design choices that don't have anything with role-playing, and I think it's pretty clear by now that for the purpose of the story the cluncky ME1 combat wasn't the best choice at all.
My CE isn't shipping until Thursday. I'm going to check Best Buy tomorrow before work and see if they have any extra Ps3 CEs lying around. If they do I'll grab it from there then return the unopened one from Amazon to BB with the receipt. I got it for $60 on Amazon, otherwise I would just cancel.
Red Blaster
Member
So I'm like 2 hours in
...when the hell do we actually start getting dialogue choices? So far it's been pretty much entirely auto-dialogue with only a handful of choices, it's about the same ratio as the demo.
For all of ME2's needless streamlining Bioware at least left that part alone, why change it for ME3?
just met the reporter
"recruiting" the reporter was just Shepard hearing two sentences from her and going "derp sounds good" smh
For all of ME2's needless streamlining Bioware at least left that part alone, why change it for ME3?
Bruce Lee Kicks
Member
Lol...must be Harbinger.
WrenchNinja
Member
Amazon.ca doesn't do this. Or at least they've never done this for me.
in short, fuck amazon canada.
From what i read from a 7 hour playthrough, dialogue choices were limited so far even in rpg mode, alignment choices amount to only one so far in 7 hours... also the demo is word for word exactly like the full game, bioware didnt improve a thing in the final version.
bigace33
Member
lol I was reaching a bit with that one. Glad to see someone else who recognizes the awesomeness of Lonesome Dove.
Ventilaator
Banned
Here's the level up screen from Mass Effect 1. You increase your proficiency in all the different weapon types and you also have some speech skills in there. Having a low level at a certain weapon type made Shepard incompetent at using that weapon. It's a shooter, but also an RPG.
Now look at the one from ME2. You get a choice between fire bullets and ice bullets. You don't have to use either because shooting people in the face works well.
You start at whatever your import character was. So 30 for me, etc.
I think the enemies scale, though.
I'm a Canadian and 95% of the time I order from Amazon.COM
So much better. And they always refund your import costs, so in the end its like buying from Canada.
I have played both Mass Effect 1 and Mass Effect 2. Sorry, but ME2 trumps over it in almost every way. The combat in the first game was painful to play through. While I still like the first game, Mass Effect 2, to put it bluntly, was bigger, better and more 'epic'. I like the action-RPG focus of the Mass Effect series. I have not played any other RPG game because they are by large, a bore fest. This is not the case with the Mass Effect series however! I tried playing games like Fallout and Oblivion, but my interest wanes after a few hours.
It's a shame Mass Effect 3 is the last game in the series, because there is nothing like the Mass Effect series. Great music, great setting, great characters and great writing. And lastly, it has a healthy dose of action that I crave in all games. Not so much so it's simply a shooter, but not so little so it feels like I'm playing an extremely passive game.
I tried Deus Ex Human Revolution. It was good, but Mass Effect 2 was far more enjoyable to me. No other RPG game on the market compares with ME!
It's a shame Mass Effect 3 is the last game in the series, because there is nothing like the Mass Effect series. Great music, great setting, great characters and great writing. And lastly, it has a healthy dose of action that I crave in all games. Not so much so it's simply a shooter, but not so little so it feels like I'm playing an extremely passive game.
I tried Deus Ex Human Revolution. It was good, but Mass Effect 2 was far more enjoyable to me. No other RPG game on the market compares with ME!
From what i've heard, there's as much dialogues choices as you're used to in ME games later, but some/most minor characters don't have much stuff to choose from. Something like that anyway.
It's not the last Mast Effect game lol. It's the last of the trilogy about Shepard's story. You'll get your ME4 and ME5 someday, you can be sure about that.
ScreenSplitter
Member
Here's the level up screen from Mass Effect 1. You increase your proficiency in all the different weapon types and you also have some speech skills in there. Having a low level at a certain weapon type made Shepard incompetent at using that weapon. It's a shooter, but also an RPG.
Now look at the one from ME2. You get a choice between fire bullets and ice bullets. You don't have to use either because shooting people in the face works well.
Fire ammo works better against armour. Cryo ammo freezes your target. I don't get it...