EmCeeGramr
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wonder what the leaves are thinkin' bout now that they're cyber-leaves
pro'ly real important leaf shit
pro'ly real important leaf shit
Mass Effect 3 SPOILER THREAD: LOTS OF SPECULATION FROM EVERYONE
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It's in their best interests to promise that right now, since it will prevent more disappointed players from selling their game back.
rollingstart
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flower is actually mass effect 4
The best rationale is probably the manner of destruction made the difference. The relays blow up using their energy to create the change you wanted, and once spent up they fell apart. In Arrival you rammed an asteroid into a relay, and released that energy in a colossal explosion.
lastplayed
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Mass Effect 4: The Search for Shepard
In retrospect after having the effect of the ending wash away a bit 6+ hours ago though still disappointed at least the ride was a good one.
I really would like BioWare to explore the rich history of the current cycle.
I mean the Reaper storyline was typical Matrix BS cliche of a dark force uniting everyone for survival of the known world. The disappointing thing is that you never learn more about the Reapers history, all I deduced is that they were either 1) Synthetics that became self aware and realized organics would always eventually kill each other 2) created by a god race for the purpose of harvesting.
I wanted to learn more about the Krogan Wars, Rachni Wars, Quarian and Geth history, other races. There is so much potential for new stories, I'm sort of sad to think if there won't be more Mass Effect games but spinoffs or even games taking place in previous life cycles would be interesting.
If anything I would love to explore the potential universe because Mass Effect took place in the Milky Way Galaxy, the universe is composed of billions if not trillions of galaxies. There's plenty of room to expand on the lore.
I really would like BioWare to explore the rich history of the current cycle.
I mean the Reaper storyline was typical Matrix BS cliche of a dark force uniting everyone for survival of the known world. The disappointing thing is that you never learn more about the Reapers history, all I deduced is that they were either 1) Synthetics that became self aware and realized organics would always eventually kill each other 2) created by a god race for the purpose of harvesting.
I wanted to learn more about the Krogan Wars, Rachni Wars, Quarian and Geth history, other races. There is so much potential for new stories, I'm sort of sad to think if there won't be more Mass Effect games but spinoffs or even games taking place in previous life cycles would be interesting.
If anything I would love to explore the potential universe because Mass Effect took place in the Milky Way Galaxy, the universe is composed of billions if not trillions of galaxies. There's plenty of room to expand on the lore.
That is the biggest crock of shit ever. I think this is my main beef with this series. They advertise and make you think the games are all about CHOICES and CONSEQUENCES but for the most part it doesn't fucking matter at all. All of it is a fucking illusion.
Yeah, it really bothered me too. Like they knew they just trolled the shit out of their fanbase.
lastplayed
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I'd actually like to see what happened in the decades/centuries following the mass relay collapse. It's like the Hyperion novels where humanity's way of traversing the galaxy disappeared in an instant, leaving billions stranded in odd places around the galaxy. It's an interesting concept.
lastplayed
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Yeah what the hell. I've been looking forward to the epic rachni/reaper showdown ever since ME1. Instead all I got was a few rachni workers helping to build the giant spaceball. Wicked.
Anyone else having withdrawals? I feel like I'm missing something.
Because Morinth is an evil bitch?
But how would they get around?
They're all actually a new kind of Thorian. Everyone who stepped out of the Normandy gets eaten because it's silly to assume that plants weren't actually plotting our doom this whole time. Now they have the power: they have achieved perfection. Shepard continues being the avatar of mass extinction, even from beyond the grave.
Ugh.
What a lazy way to envision a future of widespread "technorganic" life. It'd probably be completely unrecognizable to us. Fuck that ending. Seriously. Nothing about it makes sense. Why wouldn't the pinnacle of organic life just be more efficient organic functions like better brains, stronger bones, and a middle finger to aging?
edit: Actually, what IS the point of merging with synthetic parts? To prevent a war with robots that rebel against us? As humans we are all made of the same stuff, and we still fight with each other anyway. Would being a cyborg enlighten us so much that we all live happily ever after? How boring.
I still don't know what I feel besides ill and without appetite. Did I really care about Mass Effect this much?
I know I did. Now that you mention it, I only ate a bit for breakfast and a bit for dinner. What's happening?I still don't know what I feel besides ill and without appetite. Did I really care about Mass Effect this much?
ships can travel faster than light without mass relays, just strap on a big enough fuel tank and prepare for a long ride.
lastplayed
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They don't, that's the point. Each stranded community has to fend for itself, creating all sorts of interesting societies.
But all the fuel spots were right next to the relays! There's no space gas.
We need a collective group hug.
I know that Feel Shep.
Someone want to shop that?
"I wonder how many days I have until I fall off this branch and die"
Best ideas I can think of:
- Both organics and synthetics, obstinably, would have the same requirements for living now. Ergo, the angle of synthetics not needing organics around would be rendered moot.
- Being partially mechanical means both have the same potential for growth, and thus can't truly outclass one or the other in a way they can't get around.
- They gave up making sense when they threw out the original idea and just ran with the "stop the Reapers!" plot until the very end until, wait, why ARE the Reapers wiping out all advanced life over and over?
It's pretty sad when you can point to Mega Man as a series that did this thing better.
lastplayed
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Well if it's the ME universe, then yeah probably.
cluxdeluxe
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I started a new game but I just got depressed because I already know everything basically gets blown up at the end with no closure. The rest of the game was pretty good too but that ending salts me up too much to play it again.
I think I'm into the acceptance stage now... but still can't start my usual "evil" second run.
Note that if Bioware teases something I may revert to bargaining stage.
I have nothing against this scenario (heck, I even liked in that old game Star Control 3), but still think if that's what they're going for, they should've done in the beginning of the next game, not now.
I'm actually considering trading in the CE discs just because I have no serious desire to replay. Well, and the relatively minor variance doesn't help (and the fact most of that variance involves killing characters I'm at least somewhat attached to). The fact the CE discs actually look different is the biggest thing holding me back, unlike FFXIII-2 which didn't have that defense (and I DO want to grab that again, I just wanted to throw more money into Xenoblade for now.)
Probably better to wait a few weeks though, just to see what they plan to do.
But then they'll end up killing themselves.
(This is how I feel most people feel.)
Ralph <3
Everything's okay, you guys, because we all die anyway.
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Honestly, I think most of us actually do have PTSD now.
MadraptorMan
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I'm sure this has been brought up already, but...did anyone try shooting the Keepers at the end? I didn't...
green explosions come with glowy facepaint though.
nothing happened.
lastplayed
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Galactic civilizations don't die, not on my watch!
I've probably been spoiled. The most epic fantasy wars end in a better place... LOTR, Babylon 5, DS9... not used to it ending like this.
I was really looking forward to Shepard's version of "Get the hell out of our galaxy!"
Yeah doesn't do anything. I shot everything.
GrandHarrier
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Kosh teaches Shepard to fight legends?!
Edit: Even great writers can write wtfgarbage. See JMS's Superman: Grounded storyline.
lastplayed
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I don't care who writes it, I just want to have a happy ending.
I don't care who writes it, I just want to have a happy ending.
wait a week for those fanfics?
lastplayed
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I'll get over it. Just gonna vent in here then move on.
jediyoshi
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I don't care who writes it, I just want to have a happy ending.
I've resorted to reading fanfic. On deviantart.
bioware made this happen.
I don't care about a happy ending so much as a satisfying one befitting of the series. This just feels like "well, we reached the end. Let's blow a lot of stuff up." The fact there's relatively minor changes does not help at all either, KotOR's ending was kind of limp but it could manage more significant changes at least.I don't care who writes it, I just want to have a happy ending.
MisterNugNug
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It did more than disappoint. You know given how shitty Deception turned out; I was really worried about the game. I know the writer of the novel was contracted for the book but reading that tweet from Casey Hudson talking about how great the story was; I expected the worse. And I was pleasantly surprised, I enjoyed this ride. Great highs. Great moments.
It was so emotionally resonant, sitting next to Anderson and getting a chance to see Sheppard rest. The both of them reflecting on the struggle and the lives lost. I loved that. Then the next ten minutes irrevocably dismantled the joy I had. The ending(s) are stupefying, that's the word I would use to describe the experience.
HP_Wuvcraft
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The last two pages are filled with lulz. You guys are in top form tonight.
Have not not watched BSG? I think it's a good way to prepare yourself for this ending in a way.
I didn't expect ME to go that rout, but I guess they sorta did.
BSG Spoilers:
At least the synthesis rout.
I was thinking the same thing yesterday. Bought Mega Man X on Wii, and with the ME3 ending still fresh in my mind and Mega Man X really pulls off the whole organics and synthetics thing well. The idea of a synthetic strike force to take on rogue syntetics is in itself a pretty good idea. By the ZX games, synthesis has happened naturally. Humans became closer to reploids due to cybernetics and reploids became closer to humans through organic additions and in the end, they were pretty much the same. And that's a series of platform games that really don't need more story than "8 enemy robots are attacking! Destroy them and take their power so you can defeat the badguy who sent them."
The whole organic and synthetic life thing, and the synthesis is a pretty interesting theme, to be honest, but if you want to make a game about it, make a game about it. Don't just graft an ending about it on a game that didn't deal with those themes much in the first place.
GrandHarrier
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What do you expect when you aren't here to grace us with your insights?
PinkCrayon
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After thinking about for a few days... I am still dissatisfied.
Not only does the entire trilogy wrap up with some out-of-left field explanation, but the last few minutes are riddled with Deception-level inconsistencies. How do my squadmates magically appear in the final cutscene? How did Anderson get on the Citadel? Shouldn't the Normandy be hunting down Harbinger? Things like this are not bad plot points, but they need an explanation.
Unlike others, I am not mad that there is no happy ending. I am perfectly fine with Shepard giving her life to save the galaxy. And while the relays being destroyed seems harsh, it is obviously something that Bioware wishes to be cannon. So, relays aside, could it have been so hard to differentiate the endings a little bit more? Some closure would be nice as well.
I really feel like they finished making the game, and with 8 hours left before they had to submit to certification, someone turned around and said: "HOOOOLY SHIT! WE DIDN'T WRITE THE ENDING!"
Not only does the entire trilogy wrap up with some out-of-left field explanation, but the last few minutes are riddled with Deception-level inconsistencies. How do my squadmates magically appear in the final cutscene? How did Anderson get on the Citadel? Shouldn't the Normandy be hunting down Harbinger? Things like this are not bad plot points, but they need an explanation.
Unlike others, I am not mad that there is no happy ending. I am perfectly fine with Shepard giving her life to save the galaxy. And while the relays being destroyed seems harsh, it is obviously something that Bioware wishes to be cannon. So, relays aside, could it have been so hard to differentiate the endings a little bit more? Some closure would be nice as well.
I really feel like they finished making the game, and with 8 hours left before they had to submit to certification, someone turned around and said: "HOOOOLY SHIT! WE DIDN'T WRITE THE ENDING!"
Beelzeboss
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Man the purpose of the Crucible went in a strange direction. I figured it would be a weapon of some sort. It was pretty cool how it was revealed to be the combined work of all other races killed in their cycles and I could really get behind the entire galaxy finally coming together to get the job done and finishing it. Then our prepared forces decide how well the weapon works and if we get a happy ending or not.
Let's just say I wasn't expecting robot leaves to be the real outcome of all that hard work
Let's just say I wasn't expecting robot leaves to be the real outcome of all that hard work
you guys here have probably heard something like this a thousand times already so I apologize for bring it up again. I just had to get this out so I can move on. The ending just makes me feel bad
GrandHarrier
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Man the purpose of the Crucible went in a strange direction. I figured it would be a weapon of some sort. It was pretty cool how it was revealed to be the combined work of all other races killed in their cycles and I could really get behind the entire galaxy finally coming together to get the job done and finishing it. Then our prepared forces decide how well the weapon works and if we get a happy ending or not.
Let's just say I wasn't expecting robot leaves to be the real outcome of all that hard work
you guys here have probably heard something like this a thousand times already so I apologize for bring it up again. I just had to get this out so I can move on. The ending just makes me feel bad
There is only one ending: Destroy. Sorry you picked one that doesn't exist.
The Xtortionist
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Just watched the ending again on Youtube.
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