People will be angry for only so long. The problem for Bioware is that after anger comes apathy, and apathetic fans aren't likely to buy DLC.
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People will be angry for only so long. The problem for Bioware is that after anger comes apathy, and apathetic fans aren't likely to buy DLC.
Hey you don't know, maybe they consider the 30 points or so it adds to your military strength a big deal to them!
Same dude, just want closure =/Mac?In all seriousness their are too many scenes to list. It felt great to kill Kai leng after he killed Thane, Mordin going out like a true G. Curing the Genophage, talking to everyone before the end mission and lame-o ending. The game is amazing. I'm not a hater, I just want closure.
So Shep dies in all three choices? That's what it sounded like coming from the AI kids mouth.
If you have over 4000 (Anderson not executed by IM) or 5000 EMS, Cherry gives you a 5-second clip of Shep taking a breath in stone rubble.
EatChildren
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I figured this would happen and I think in the long run BioWare wont do or say much about it. There won't be an apology nor ending changing DLC. At most they'll deflect criticism while pretending they 'understand' how fans feel but felt this was the most fitting end for the franchise.
You just have to look at the Deception apology to get an idea of what they'll say. They not once implied they were apologetic for the fact the book was fucking awful, only citing 'errors' and 'oversights', aka the concrete stuff you can really pin them on. You cant really argue against huge lore fuck-ups, hence the apology. But ME3's open ended whimsical bullshit ending doesn't really fall into that trap.
Yeah, this is the main thing. The apathy over the lukewarm ending could kill interest in DLC, so we'll see.
Funny thing is had the gone with the predictable ending of brief summaries or insight into the recovery of each species and major location throughout the series, post-war, much like old WRPG's used to do with their "Where are they now?" cards, they'd have probably given greater incentive for people to buy and play DLC.
EG: Take Back Omega DLC. Buy it, finish it, and during your ending cinematic a snippet of Omega and Aria's future will be shown. No DLC and you'll never truly know. It's basically what the fans want and exactly what would keep them buying and playing, but nope.
bigace33
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This is one of my biggest appointment's. Shepard should have came to London with a warship full of arachni soldiers ready to tear some reapers up.
Now I want this ending for my Shep that killed everyone in the suicide mission except Zaeed and Kasumi. Is it even possible?
I don't even .....
Anybody else think wanting to include Shep in it was a little bit over the top? I get it already, he's the saviour of the galaxy...
Why did he have to die, btw? Did I miss something? I know he had retained some reaper code, but is that it?
Karak
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And each moment another person wins the game and complains. This is now slow burn anger.
I personally am just as angry. Time doesn't magically cause their failure to go away.
Arjen
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Mordin's sacrifice on Tuchanka, him singing while the base was being destroyed, the music, amazing.
Grunt coming up covered in blood. Really a FUCK YEAH moment
The game had so many awesome moments.
That's to be expected... the people more invested in the franchise have finished the game, so the ones just completing it now probably don't think the ending "is that bad". Also, can't really sustain the level of rage that was there yesterday.
However, I don't know if people moving is the best scenario for Bioware here. As always I can only speak for myself, but if in a couple of days this thread is dead, Mass Effect 3 uninstalled and so on, any "solution" they come up will not interest me, but I sure as hell will still think twice before pre-ordering any game from them again.
But hey, they have a multiplayer event this weekend... so everything is better... (isn't a bit soon for these events?)
CharmingCharlie
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To be fair it is a bit hard to argue for or against the merge ending simply because no one has a bloody clue what it means other than organics become partially synthetic and synthetic become partially organic.
I mean does that mean there is no more death ? What about pain or suffering ? what about pro-creation ? . I am personally against the merge option simply on the basis that it is destroying the very essence of every race. There are no more humans, no more Quarians or Turians all organic life is now some sort of bizarre hybrid that has to call into PC Worlds help desk every 10,000 miles.
EatChildren
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Game excuse: His evolved code needed to be uploaded to the consensus (I think) in order to fully evolve the code of connected Geth, granting them the same degree of cognitive processing.
Real excuse: Drama.
Well yeah, the vagueness and sheer stupidity of the idea makes it hard to pick, but that's kind of why I also think it's the best option, because the game just goes "oh this is the new choices that brings peace and makes everyone super amazing plus it's the hardest to unlock".
That whole war asset thing disappointed me because I was expecting to see more of my results in action. One thing I remember was during that part where you talk to your squad one last time I came across Wrex hyping up a small group of Krogan but that was mostly it.
I wanted to see a Geth fleet cut through a section for the Quarians to come through. Have the rachni crawl through the rubble to ambush reaper ground troops. Stuff like that.
bigace33
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Nah, shep did some pretty amazing things over the course of the ME games. It was almost like dude had the force or something with him. He deserves it.
PsychoSoldier
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Yep, I've gone through this as well. I am interested to see how everything goes down but I got over being upset a couple days ago. and I'm imagining a lot of people are the same way.
Some people may get over it to the extent that they can now enjoy the game again, but I'm imagining some people once they get to this stage are just going to say "peace out" to the series and to Bioware in general.
Reading this makes me sad because I think you're right. Bioware isn't going to do shit about the ending except ride out the storm.
I think the Child's Play movement is a really good one, but I also wonder about organizing a mass (no pun intended) selling of ME3 to Gamestops. Like what if we started a list or something full of pledges to sell our copies back to Gamestop on a certain day if Bioware didn't put some kind of plan into action?
Probably wouldn't work, but its a thought. Not like we have many ways of fighting back.
I think I've reached that apathy stage. Most DLC that I can think of that they could announce would get a "meh" from me because of the ending. What's the point when everything's going to go to shit anyway?
But I'll end up buying it though. Because I'm a dirty whore with no control when it comes to this series.
ElectricBlue187
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lol wow amazing
Yep. I was going to buy ME1 and ME2 again, play through it all then play through 3 all over. With this ambiguous bullshit ending I have no desire. I want to play it all over and I will if they provide closure. I have not been this sad/dissatisfied with a game ending in all of my 23 years of gaming.
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Go to youtube... I can't remember his exact words
"Uploading the code requires..."
Tha's all I remember
Hm, figured as much.
Sigh. I guess.
But did we really need another cheesy sex scene? I chose to rekindle the relationship with Liara again (after my boning everyone in ME2 post ending was invalidated as not having slept with anyone, haha). There was a perfect cut off point, where I hoped desperately they would just fade to black, but no...
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Sir Garbageman
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All these plus I would also add:
- Mordin's goodbye
- Thane's prayer scene
- Thessia from start to finish
- knifing Kai Leng, "that's for Thane you sonofabitch!"
-brokering peace between the geth and quarians and Tali's dumb founded conversation after the fact how the geth are helping build up their immune systems, rebuild housing etc.
Game is full of really amazing scenes, then the ending rolls along... :/
dragonelite
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Not sure if this fits the universe or people would love it.
But i think a meta game using war assets to free galaxy parts or planets that need evacuation. You know something like Assasin creed brotherhood assassin mission rpg game. And you could loose minor war assets.
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That was my same plan as well, I wanted to go through ME 3 once, and then do a big run through of the entire series. Now I'm not even sure if I want to play through ME 3 again at all.
ElectricBlue187
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You just described the iOS app except you don't lose anything
Agreed again, and just the amazing Citadel again, got a great vibe from it. Citadel in 2 was nice in side missions, but the main citadel you are in wasn't as great. Also the entire doom situation you're in, the Asari homeworld, constant feel of pressure.. all great.
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Nice...
Also, I am watching it on the tv (vid looked to dark)... But did I see a magicaly reparied floor?
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PsychoSoldier
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I sold ME 1-3 three days after I saw the ending. Barring an amazing turnaround, I'm pretty much done with the series.
It's not openly malicious, but considering how much everyone in the industry complains about used games, it felt kind of good to do something that at least might annoy them.
I honestly still am interested to see how all this goes though. Given how good the rest of the game was I am willing to give them a chance if they announce some kind of resolution. And if there's no resolution, at least it's pretty fun to watch at this point.
Before the game came out, when I saw the new galaxy map, I thought they might have an ending where after it you spent the post game clearing out systems that were reaper controlled. Would've been fun!
I won't be buying any DLC, that's for damn sure. I will Youtube them or read a summary, but that's it. This is coming from someone who bought every piece of Dragon Age DLC, so you know I have somewhat poor impulse control.
Yup. There are a few of these moments. I've often seen my team carry standard rifles in one scene, then what I equipped on them in another. There's also a scene where Shep gives Tali a rock from Rannoch, first lease of home kind of thing. The thing disappears a few seconds in, so he gives her an invisible rock.
dragonelite
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lol didn't knew but then again i have a windows phone 7 wanted to be a real hipster
.Or did microsoft indoctrinated me.
Ideally having a lot of war assets would have made the epic gigantic player controlled space battle even bigger! You'd still control like a small fighter but there'd be more shit going on around you. They should make a space battle ME game!
I can just imagine the look on the gamestop clerk's face when thousands of people want to trade it in.
I had Ashley pointing her sniper rifle to the Dr. Eva bot on Mars yesterday in the Prothean beacon room. When she was just in front of her.
Dumbass Ashley.
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Yeah, I actually kinda forgot about Deception, they've released no new info at all about it, have they?
I don't honestly understand the whole "we're waiting for more people to finish the game before we (Bioware) will actually step into the discussion and discuss the ending with you guys" argument that Bioware is using as their justification for not commenting unless the above holds true. The ME fans have beaten the game by now, except maybe in Asia, where the fans would probably be beating it by this weekend, and they're the ones who have gone out of their way to comment on their dissatisfaction with the endings. Bioware either:
-has had a plan all along (I think the craziest theory I saw was that due to mass indoctrination, enough people world-wide had to pick the destroy ending and submit that data over the internet to Bioware's servers for the indoctrination to break). This is giving Bioware far too much credit, especially with the Final Hours app. Although, they did state they were experimenting with indoctrination in the final sequence and only dropped it because losing all control of Shepard would be too weird for the fans, so SPECULATION.
-or that they have absolutely nothing, and are trying to let the internet hate machine wear itself down before releasing a statement that says "ending DLC (maybe) coming soon, in the meantime, buy Omega DLC and finish Aria's story! You also get a new multiplayer map!"
In either case, the longer they wait, the more fans they are going to risk losing.
The Avenger thing is a recurring issue in the series. My Engineer is constantly carrying it in all the games, even though I never used an assault rifle until halfway through ME2.
I don't understand why they can't just have you use your currently equipped weapon, but it must be animation needs or something.
Every Wrex and Grunt moment in the game. There were many a time when Wrex or Grunt would do something of their typical bad ass nature, and I would think "YEAAAAAAH BUDDY!". Total hype for all things bad ass Krogan.
Hell, I remember when the Salarian Dalatross pops up and sells you on faking the genophage cure, and I actually reflexively said out loud "fuck you bitch".
And then Wrex headbutts Wreav for talking out of line and disrespecting the boss.
Give me a Krogan spinoff pls.
UnluckyKate
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How the Tali drunk scene happens ? When ?
After Horizon. She'll be in the lounge.
The worst is that sometimes in ME3, Shepard will use your current weapon, but still use the assault rifle holding position.
Looks quite weird when you have a pistol.
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