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[sTeLioSco]

I wonder how much Bioware/EA are paying these so-called 'journalists' to make fun of the fans. Wrong move, Bioware/EA.

dude,read the piece and tell me with straight face that is not paid propaganda!

its so obvious ffs!

"Despite what you might read from irate fans, it is far from lazy or simple. It is complex and thought provoking. It’s been days since I finished the game, and I still find myself contemplating the conclusion, trying to discern what it means for the characters, species and worlds affected. That a story can reach a definite end and yet leave one fascinated by what might come after is, to me, is a sign that BioWare got it right. "

"(It’s worth noting that many of the people complaining about the series’ finale seem to have no qualms revealing spoilers amid their protests – those yet to finish the game should be wary when visiting online user forums and comments). "

"However, this freedom seems to have gone to many players’ heads. Because they’ve enjoyed having control over the decisions Shepard makes, they think they also ought to control Shepard’s fate. They’ve confused having the ability to affect a story through a character in meaningful, often emotional ways, with having the ability to write their own story. That’s not what Mass Effect is. "

 

[truly101]

The only thing thought provoking about the ending is that it brings up the debate about whether the developers were high on drugs, drinking copious amounts of alcohol, idiotic, indoctrinated by EA, or purposely trying to piss people off.

It's a question for the ages.

i still insist when Kojima showed the MGS2 dev team his amazing plot, it was really the big deuce he dropped a few minutes earlier. Maybe thats what happened here.

 

[Patryn]

Here's some good apologist literature:

"Despite what you might read from irate fans, [the ending] is far from lazy or simple. It is complex and thought provoking. It’s been days since I finished the game, and I still find myself contemplating the conclusion, trying to discern what it means for the characters, species and worlds affected. That a story can reach a definite end and yet leave one fascinated by what might come after is, to me, is a sign that BioWare got it right."

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news...d-including-mass-effect/article2373708/page1/

And the author's clever, final dig:

"In the end, I suspect that, deep down, many of those who complain are simply sad that it is over."

So he's totally missed pretty much every Bioware interview where they admit that they're pulling all this out of their ass? Like how they acknowledged that they had no idea what Cerberus really was in making ME1, then basically took the name and ran with it in ME2?

God. Such a hack.

 

[inky]

"Thought-provoking" Ha! That's a good one.

 

[EmCeeGramr]

Deus Ex may have asked what will happen when Man and Machine combine, but it took real genius, The Mass Effect™ Trilogy, to truly answer that. I am Commander Shepard. I am Game Reviewer. The barriers between us have fallen; no longer can distinction be made. We are One, and we have BioWare - the maestros and sorcerers of this new cyberworld paradigm - to thank.

 

[DTKT]

I can't understand it. I guess it must be thought provoking?

 

[Derrick01]

The media continues to really embarrass themselves over this game.

 

[Hartt951]

i still insist when Kojima showed the MGS2 dev team his amazing plot, it was really the big deuce he dropped a few minutes earlier. Maybe thats what happened here.

That is another good theory. Very high speed.

 

[Replicant]

dude,read the piece and tell me with straight face that is not paid propaganda!

its so obvious ffs!

"Despite what you might read from irate fans, it is far from lazy or simple. It is complex and thought provoking. It’s been days since I finished the game, and I still find myself contemplating the conclusion, trying to discern what it means for the characters, species and worlds affected. That a story can reach a definite end and yet leave one fascinated by what might come after is, to me, is a sign that BioWare got it right. "

"(It’s worth noting that many of the people complaining about the series’ finale seem to have no qualms revealing spoilers amid their protests – those yet to finish the game should be wary when visiting online user forums and comments). "

"However, this freedom seems to have gone to many players’ heads. Because they’ve enjoyed having control over the decisions Shepard makes, they think they also ought to control Shepard’s fate. They’ve confused having the ability to affect a story through a character in meaningful, often emotional ways, with having the ability to write their own story. That’s not what Mass Effect is. "

Wow. Fuck them. Next time these 'journalists' make one tiny mistake, I hope we don't give them any sense of mercy.

 

[Rebel Leader]

Oh, me too. Which is why I'm fatigued by articles by momos saying I am a ME3 hater. Or that I wanted a happy ending or something.

You forget "entitled"

 

[Raxus]

I can't understand it. I guess it must be thought provoking?

This totally contradicts itself. That isn't possible. Fuck this. Those were the three thoughts in my head when I finished the game.

 

[EmCeeGramr]

Is Mass Effect The Most Important Story Since The Renaissance? The Answer May Surprise You.

 

[WanderingWind]

Wow. Fuck them. Next time these 'journalists' make one tiny mistake, I hope we don't give them any sense of mercy.

Be prepared to be called an asshole, or entitled, or just an angry fanboy.

 

[Deleted member 81567]

lyk this if it made u cry

 

[elfinke]

Wait a minute. I just watched the other ending (left, er blue) on YT. Is that really all there is to it? A green energy burst rather than red? The Reapers leaving Earth rather than collapsing on it and racking up an even larger cleanup bill?

Hmm, I bet I'm treading over well trodden ground, so I won't pontificate further.

 

[Pooya]

It's "thought provoking" for all the wrong reasons...

 

[Shepard]

Where are the people defending the ending? It's a lot better here without everyone thinking the same way.

 

[Eusis]

Is Mass Effect The Most Important Story Since The Renaissance? The Answer May Surprise You.

But I thought that was Xenosaga III!

Where are the people defending the ending? It's a lot better here without everyone thinking the same way.

You can defend it smartly, but some of these... well, aren't. It doesn't help if you attack the userbase for not liking it at the same time rather than just disagreeing.

 

[Y2Kev]

Wait a minute. I just watched the other ending (left, er blue) on YT. Is that really all there is to it? A green energy burst rather than red? The Reapers leaving Earth rather than collapsing on it and racking up an even larger cleanup bill?

Hmm, I bet I'm treading over well trodden ground, so I won't pontificate further.

ONE OF US, ONE OF USSS

"I liked it!"

"Wait, what?"


"THE FUCK?"

 

[Rebel Leader]

Wait a minute. I just watched the other ending (left, er blue) on YT. Is that really all there is to it? A green energy burst rather than red? The Reapers leaving Earth rather than collapsing on it and racking up an even larger cleanup bill?

Hmm, I bet I'm treading over well trodden ground, so I won't pontificate further.

No.. change your TV tint for the ultra secret ending

 

[EmCeeGramr]

Move over, Shelley: a new "Modern Prometheus" is in town, and his name is Casey Hudson. And just like before, the genius's dumb monster threatens to destroy him.

 

[Replicant]

Be prepared to be called an asshole, or entitled, or just an angry fanboy.

Why the hell not? They already call us that anyway. May as well embrace it.

 

[Derrick01]

Where are the people defending the ending? It's a lot better here without everyone thinking the same way.

Pretty much the entire games media is defending the ending/Bioware on this one. The problem is they're doing it in a way that makes them look worse than they normally do. Which is a hard thing for them to pull off.

 

[Patryn]

Is Mass Effect The Most Important Story Since The Renaissance? The Answer May Surprise You.

Why Mass Effect is the Most Important Science Fiction Universe of our Generation

Spoiler

And I love ME! ME1 is my favorite game, and I loved ME3 until that ending... but COME ON!

 

[Rebel Leader]

ONE OF US, ONE OF USSS

"I liked it!"

"Wait, what?"


"THE FUCK?"

I've seen that so many tines now.. :lol

 

[Dany]

Wait a minute. I just watched the other ending (left, er blue) on YT. Is that really all there is to it? A green energy burst rather than red? The Reapers leaving Earth rather than collapsing on it and racking up an even larger cleanup bill?

Hmm, I bet I'm treading over well trodden ground, so I won't pontificate further.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPelM2hwhJA

God damn shameful. I watched this after beating the game feeling somewhat good/ok on the ending. Totally changed everything. Ugh.

 

[Y2Kev]

Why Mass Effect is the Most Important Science Fiction Universe of our Generation

Spoiler

And I love ME! ME1 is my favorite game, and I loved ME3 until that ending... but COME ON!

Mass Effect is epic.

*stops reading*

 

[EmCeeGramr]

Five Reasons Why Mass Effect 3 Is The Greatest Canadian Work of Literature Since

 

[WanderingWind]

Where are the people defending the ending? It's a lot better here without everyone thinking the same way.

Dude, this is the fourth of fifth time you've said something to this effect. Accept that, for the time being, your opinion is in the minority. It's not a hivemind. I didn't come across a single spoiler for the game, didn't participate in the OT or other threads. I finished the game this morning, came to the wholly independent conclusion that the ending was fucking horrible, then came here to vent/discuss. I was sort of surprised that everybody else is saying it sucked too.

I imagine most have the same story, as I doubt very many people were rushing to spoil the game for themselves.

 

[Shepard]

Pretty much the entire games media is defending the ending/Bioware on this one. The problem is they're doing it in a way that makes them look worse than they normally do. Which is a hard thing for them to pull off.

Nice, I'll catch up with the rest (only read the one stated earlier in this page, which pretty much I agree with).

Dude, this is the fourth of fifth time you've said something to this effect. Accept that, for the time being, your opinion is in the minority. It's not a hivemind. I didn't come across a single spoiler for the game, didn't participate in the OT or other threads. I finished the game this morning, came to the wholly independent conclusion that the ending was fucking horrible, then came here to vent/discuss. I was sort of surprised that everybody else is saying it sucked too.

I imagine most have the same story, as I doubt very many people were rushing to spoil the game for themselves.

Yes, back there in the thread the opinions were almost half/half, I was just thinking Bioware could have said something that shitted in everything I thought about the ending. :\

 

[Rebel Leader]

Five Reasons Why Mass Effect 3 Is The Greatest Canadian Work of Literature Since

Great work, eh?

 

[Papercuts]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Fw5MHB1SN4

I always love these asshole montage videos.

 

[heliosRAzi]

*stops reading*

Eh, at least it was written back before the game was released... unless they got a press copy.

 

[truly101]

Five Reasons Why Mass Effect 3 Is The Greatest Canadian Work of Literature Since

2112? If you include all Canadian art

 

[CorrisD]

Mass Effect doesn’t suffer this problem. It was a story conceived as a trilogy, with its ending defined even before the first game hit shelves. This is made clear as we play through the final game, where the meaning of several of the most important narrative props finally becomes clear, leaving us to marvel at the writers' cleverness while looking back and realizing how the first two games were filled with foreshadowing. It’s a tale that’s been masterfully constructed with a beginning, a middle and, yes, an ending.

good lord

I would love to have seen his list of what he thought foreshadowed the ending of ME3 in ME1 and 2, because we know now that is utter bullshit, they had no idea how the story between the games was going to end and even changed writers who went different ways with the story.

The supposed games "journalism" around this games ending has been such a joke.
It is fine if you liked it, but to call out so many fans as wrong and entitled because they choose to think differently that sites who business relies on being on good terms with the publishers of said games, and defended by those who haven't even finished the game.

 

[elfinke]

I've seen that so many tines now.. :lol

Yeah I knew instantly that that was going to be the case

Ah well, 1 week or something LTTP and you get that. I'm all for reading through mega threads to catch up (reading all the way through game facts that blow your mind remains one of my favourite GAF things ever), but ~193 pages and counting right here now... urgh, I'm not up for it.

/goes to do just that

/edit

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPelM2hwhJA

God damn shameful. I watched this after beating the game feeling somewhat good/ok on the ending. Totally changed everything. Ugh.

Hahaohwow.jpg

There you go. It wasn't so much the ending that had people upset, as much as it is the palette swap Scorpion-is-the-same-as-SubZero thing, I see.

 

[Dany]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Fw5MHB1SN4

I always love these asshole montage videos.

I totally did not recruit Ashley, shit.

 

[Y2Kev]

Five Reasons Why Mass Effect 3 Is Canadian

o

 

[brianmcdoogle]

My simple question is why did you think they felt the need to have a twist ending? sigh.

 

[Shepard]

I would love to have seen his list of what he thought foreshadowed the ending of ME3 in ME1 and 2, because we know now that is utter bullshit, they had no idea how the story between the games was going to end and even changed writers who went different ways with the story.

What I think is that we knew that there was something behind the Repaers, and the Catalyst showed itself in the last game, it's not liked they pulled some new story or objective out of thin air.

My simple question is why did you think they felt the need to have a twist ending? sigh.

Do you consider it a twist? In which way?

 

[Eusis]

Dude, this is the fourth of fifth time you've said something to this effect. Accept that, for the time being, your opinion is in the minority. It's not a hivemind. I didn't come across a single spoiler for the game, didn't participate in the OT or other threads. I finished the game this morning, came to the wholly independent conclusion that the ending was fucking horrible, then came here to vent/discuss. I was sort of surprised that everybody else is saying it sucked too.

I imagine most have the same story, as I doubt very many people were rushing to spoil the game for themselves.

I do think threads like this act as salt on the wound though. I merely heard it was a bad ending, and looked around more seriously online after beating it.

Then again, when some of the people saying it was awful are huge fans of the series it DOES lead me to believe they seriously fucked things up, even if I didn't probe seriously into it.

 

[EmCeeGramr]

Gaming needed its Citizen Kane. And one brave studio in Edmonton answered. After an unfortunately poor first title, an excellent sequel, and now an utterly transcendent finale, Mass Effect has become a work worthy of the Library of Congress, rising from the lowly depths of curmudgeonly computer role-playing games to the lofty heights of a true multimedia epic rivaling the classics. Some ask if games are art. Mass Effect 3 answers definitively.

 

[heliosRAzi]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Fw5MHB1SN4

I always love these asshole montage videos.

From the uploader:

@Merrik11 To show everyone how much of a Jerk Shepard can be haha & so people don't have to go through the pain I had to go through, I really didn't want to click the button to kill those guys

 

[Hartt951]

Where are the people defending the ending? It's a lot better here without everyone thinking the same way.

No one likes the ending that's why.

Most people got into ME because of the relationships with the characters, the critical decisions that had to be made that affected the end-game, and the well-crafted story with lots of details and background.

All 3 were missing in the ending. Therefore, everyone hates it.

 

[Banana Kid]

Why Mass Effect is the Most Important Science Fiction Universe of our Generation

Spoiler

And I love ME! ME1 is my favorite game, and I loved ME3 until that ending... but COME ON!

The thing is, even with how badly the ending ruins things, I agree with that. It totally is.

Some of Gabe from Penny Arcade's tweets made me think about just how much I like Mass Effect, and I came to the realization that I like it more than Star Wars. That's why I'm so upset Bioware fucked it up at the last second, because I think the universe is fantastic and I hate that all the endings irrevocably destroy it.

 

[Jintor]

Have you guys seen this fan mockup of what could have been?

 

[enzo_gt]

What I think is that we knew that there was something behind the Repaers, and the Catalyst showed itself in the last game, it's not liked they pulled some new story or objective out of thin air.



Do you consider it a twist? In which way?

TWIST: EVERYTHING YOU KNOW, LOVE AND LEARNED IS WRONG.

ALSO WE KILLED THANE LOLOLOLOL

 

[WanderingWind]

I do think threads like this act as salt on the wound though. I merely heard it was a bad ending, and looked around more seriously online after beating it.

Then again, when some of the people saying it was awful are huge fans of the series it DOES lead me to believe they seriously fucked things up, even if I didn't probe seriously into it.

You'd kind of have to had played the series from the 1st one to see why it was so terrible, and why so many (by and large the overwhelming majority) of fans are severely upset at it.

 

[AdmiralSnackbar]

What I think is that we knew that there was something behind the Repaers, and the Catalyst showed itself in the last game, it's not liked they pulled some new story or objective out of thin air.

Except we don't, Sovereign /Harbinger said the reapers were the beginning and the end (basically that their origin is irrelevant ). It's not untill3/4 of the way through ME3 that the dead reaper on Rannoch sort of hints at it.

 

[Shepard]

TWIST: EVERYTHING YOU KNOW, LOVE AND LEARNED IS WRONG.

ALSO WE KILLED THANE LOLOLOLOL

Thane was going to die anyway. :\

Except we don't, Sovereign /Harbinger said the reapers were the beginning and the end (basically that their origin is irreverent ). It's not untill3/4 of the way through ME3 that the dead reaper on Rannoch sort of hints at it.

Imo, they didn't changed everything, just provided a reason for it. And it's not like the Catalyst is that different from the Reapers, he's just like a personification of them.