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[Tritroid]

Ok finally finished the game, green ending.

Wat.

 

[Dresden]

Angry Joe's takedown of the ending was right. It would have been better if you could convince him to step down or to even help you. And yeah he shouldn't have just had similar motivations to Saren.

Dunno, I think at that point he was just too far gone for redemption. I enjoyed the neat parallel with Saren's circumstance at the end of ME1 as well.

 

[Riggs]

Lol at all the reviews that use needlessly big words in an attempt to sound smart. You can still write well without having to resort to words no one ever uses in a conversation.

Also I would argue that the majority of reviewers never even actually finish the games. Had they, I am sure we would see different scores across the board.

God no shit man. So tired of these guys using words no one else would ever say in a conversation. Apparently they are not smart enough to see the 20 different issues with the plot. Or the complete lack of any form of closure. But keep using those big words!

 

[SCHUEY F1]

Unless Bioware fixes the end, I'll never touch the prior games again. I have a renegade Femshep who will never be played again because of this shit ending. I've never seen an ending that was so bad, especially for a trilogy conclusion.

Yep. I was going to start another play with a new character as well. So disappointed.

 

[hateradio]

Ok finally finished the game, green ending.

Wat.

Yes. What did you see?

 

[WanderingWind]

First time I've ever been depressed by a game.

Well, they nailed the "emotion" of the series, I guess. I may have just been cured from my love of RPGs. What if every RPG I start ends like this?

Maybe I'll take up knitting. Anybody need a scarf or some shit?

 

[tonitoni]

You know guys something just occurred to me.

That starchild has said that Synthetics will always rebel against their creators .

HOWEVER is has been established in the game that the Geth only fought aginst their creators because of their creator's villainous acts and THEN Shepard have established peace among the Geth and the Quarians.

So the Starchild is actually wrong on this point. Good God I discover more plot holes in this ending as time goes by >_>

You should read this then.

 

[Bowdz]

Lol at all the reviews that use needlessly big words in an attempt to sound smart. You can still write well without having to resort to words no one ever uses in a conversation.

Also I would argue that the majority of reviewers never even actually finish the games. Had they, I am sure we would see different scores across the board.

Well we have the great Ryan Clements of IGN saying Bioware shouldn't respond to the fan backlash despite having not played ME3.

 

[Riggs]

I don't mean to say that they wouldn't still be fun. As far as gaming, they are valid pieces of work. But as far as plot? I don't see how anyone could revisit the game for plot (other than to find more plot holes for the ME3 ending) and care about the "decisions" you make.

It's sad, because after the very epic and crushing Thessia mission, I was telling my sister (who was watching the playthrough) how much I love Mass Effect for making me feel like the shit I do matters. Not only that, but how it made me feel like the smaller things would all matter at the end, which was sure to be epic. This train of thought was set in stone when I saw the outcome of the Geth/Quarian feud, and despite it being hard to get over Legion's death, it was a perfect example of Shep's choices being important as fuck for future events.

And then, none of it mattered.

K I am getting sad with all this truth. Bed time for me. Hold the fucking line guys!!!!!!

 

[Dresden]

First time I've ever been depressed by a game.

Well, they nailed the "emotion" of the series, I guess. I may have just been cured from my love of RPGs. What if every RPG I start ends like this?

Maybe I'll take up knitting. Anybody need a scarf or some shit?

Your scarf is going to end up a glove.

A fingerless glove.

 

[Apophenia Overload]

Dunno, I think at that point he was just too far gone for redemption. I enjoyed the neat parallel with Saren's circumstance at the end of ME1 as well.

I know it's a debatable point, since a lot of people liked how Shepard can convince multiple people to commit suicide, but I find it a dull recycling and reduces the Illusive Man's character into just another Indoctrinated buffoon. He was always more intriguing and complex than Saren.

 

[WanderingWind]

K I am getting sad with all this truth. Bed time for me. Hold the fucking line guys!!!!!!

The line is a lie. It didn't matter if the line held, or didn't hold.

Your scarf is going to end up a glove.

A fingerless glove.

So...pointless. Like Mass Effect.

 

[hateradio]

First time I've ever been depressed by a game.

Well, they nailed the "emotion" of the series, I guess. I may have just been cured from my love of RPGs. What if every RPG I start ends like this?

Maybe I'll take up knitting. Anybody need a scarf or some shit?

Can you sow me up an N7 hoody? That would be nice.

If you think you feel bad, imagine how Shep must have felt. We only experience a glimpse, but I guess he didn't survive it (unless he did).

 

[Tokubetsu]

You know guys something just occurred to me.

That starchild has said that Synthetics will always rebel against their creators .

HOWEVER is has been established in the game that the Geth only fought aginst their creators because of their creator's villainous acts and THEN Shepard have established peace among the Geth and the Quarians.

So the Starchild is actually wrong on this point. Good God I discover more plot holes in this ending as time goes by >_>

Just one of the many incosistences that has been brought up many times throughout this thread. You can't forget there's EDI too. She only killed everyone on the lunar base because she ahd just came aware, and was scared and almost infantile. You just made peace with two synthetics and this starchild is gonna tell you NOPE NOT POSSIBLE.

 

[VeryGooster]

This has been my favorite thread for about two weeks now and I haven't even picked up the game and not sure if I will. With that said, going mostly by Twitter, it amazes me how much players get mocked for reactions to games but this ending has seemingly brought out the worst in "games journalists" spitting out the same kind of venom they're usually mocking players for on their high horses.

 

[Karl2177]

You should read this then.

Someone pointed out a couple of days ago that it suggests Indoctrination as the primary story telling element. I think we should edit it a bit to source the original creators, but exclude the unnecessary indoctrination crap.

 

[Stat Flow]

Yep. I was going to start another play with a new character as well. So disappointed.

Unless Bioware fixes the end, I'll never touch the prior games again. I have a renegade Femshep who will never be played again because of this shit ending. I've never seen an ending that was so bad, especially for a trilogy conclusion.

That's another thing. There were SO many different occasions where I said "I cannot wait to do my Renegade run so I can say these asshole things with no remorse"...now, I don't even want to touch it. I was so excited to do Renegade that I planned to start it directly after the ending. Now, I may not do that for a long time if at all. If I do, I think I'll just turn off the game at the part where the reaper beam kills everyone right before TIM shenanigans.

Speaking of that beam...what the fuck happens to the crew that you bring with you on the final mission? They don't make it up there with Shep, are we supposed to assume that they just died with the rest of the alliance fodder? In that case, I brought along Garrus and James. Am I supposed to just have believed that Garrus dies like that? Oh hell naw!

 

[MechaX]

*raises hand*

It doesn't invalidate the entire series for me, because I still enjoy the games.

I wouldn't say it invalidates the entire series, but god, it is a downer.

Knowing what I know now, it would be real difficult to go back to ME1 and be like "Man Saren, if only you fucking knew that Sovereign was trying to kill us just so other synthetics won't be able to kill us... Or even that your philosophy on synthesis is actually solved by space magic, not by subordination to the Reapers." or be on the Citadel and be like "Star Child is always watching me." Or even go back through ME2 and wade through Harbinger's constant stream of shit-talk only to be like "eh, I know you'll bitch out when the invasion actually happens, so there is no way I can take you any more seriously." Just things like that would always be nagging me due to ME3's endings.

 

[Tokubetsu]

That's another thing. There were SO many different occasions where I said "I cannot wait to do my Renegade run so I can say these asshole things with no remorse"...now, I don't even want to touch it. I was so excited to do Renegade that I planned to start it directly after the ending. Now, I may not do that for a long time if at all. If I do, I think I'll just turn off the game at the part where the reaper beam kills everyone right before TIM shenanigans.

Speaking of that beam...what the fuck happens to the crew that you bring with you on the final mission? They don't make it up there with Shep, are we supposed to assume that they just died with the rest of the alliance fodder? In that case, I brought along Garrus and James. Am I supposed to just have believed that Garrus dies like that? Oh hell naw!

Pretty sure they leave your ass behind in some of the endings.

 

[hateradio]

That's another thing. There were SO many different occasions where I said "I cannot wait to do my Renegade run so I can say these asshole things with no remorse"...now, I don't even want to touch it. I was so excited to do Renegade that I planned to start it directly after the ending. Now, I may not do that for a long time if at all. If I do, I think I'll just turn off the game at the part where the reaper beam kills everyone right before TIM shenanigans.

On a positive note, you can kill as many people as you want as a renegade. You could think of it as a favor.

Speaking of that beam...what the fuck happens to the crew that you bring with you on the final mission? They don't make it up there with Shep, are we supposed to assume that they just died with the rest of the alliance fodder? In that case, I brought along Garrus and James. Am I supposed to just have believed that Garrus dies like that? Oh hell naw!

You didn't see the random clip of the alien planet? Depending on your EMS some of your party members appear in it.

There's a deleted scene where Harbinger's laser was shown killing Liara and Garrus (the chosen party members). I think that would have sent a few people into suicide watch.

 

[SCHUEY F1]

Speaking of that beam...what the fuck happens to the crew that you bring with you on the final mission? They don't make it up there with Shep, are we supposed to assume that they just died with the rest of the alliance fodder? In that case, I brought along Garrus and James. Am I supposed to just have believed that Garrus dies like that? Oh hell naw!

Yeah, I was like what the fuck happened to Garrus and Liara.

I really hope they fix the ending.

 

[Dresden]

Reading you guys' posts is making me depressed and angry again. Goddamn it Bioware.

Bailing out.

 

[MotionBlue]

I wanted to play ME3 with my Liara romance save, but I accidentally deleted them. :<

If only the saves I could get online were as OCD as me.

 

[Riggs]

That's another thing. There were SO many different occasions where I said "I cannot wait to do my Renegade run so I can say these asshole things with no remorse"...now, I don't even want to touch it. I was so excited to do Renegade that I planned to start it directly after the ending. Now, I may not do that for a long time if at all. If I do, I think I'll just turn off the game at the part where the reaper beam kills everyone right before TIM shenanigans.

Speaking of that beam...what the fuck happens to the crew that you bring with you on the final mission? They don't make it up there with Shep, are we supposed to assume that they just died with the rest of the alliance fodder? In that case, I brought along Garrus and James. Am I supposed to just have believed that Garrus dies like that? Oh hell naw!

Jesus same thing with me , was going to replay all 3 games as renegade. Now I don't want to. The ending literally gives me no reason to. More because of the fact that there is zero closure than anything else. So sad, ok going to bed for real now.

 

[WanderingWind]

Can you sow me up an N7 hoody? That would be nice.

If you think you feel bad, imagine how Shep must have felt. We only experience a glimpse, but I guess he didn't survive it (unless he did).

I have the patch from the CE. It's staring me in the face, offering up a silent indictment on all the wrong decisions I've made in my life that led me to play ME3 to completion.

I should've been a cowboy, or failing that, a whale biologist. I'm betting those types of people have never even heard of a turian.

 

[Sapphire Dreams]

Just one of the many incosistences that has been brought up many times throughout this thread. You can't forget there's EDI too. She only killed everyone on the lunar base because she ahd just came aware, and was scared and almost infantile. You just made peace with two synthetics and this starchild is gonna tell you NOPE NOT POSSIBLE.

Yep, just one ... *cries* one of many !!

My God this ending has so many plot holes it feels like someone took the script and riddled it with bullets.

 

[Tritroid]

I guess I get the synthesis ending, having Joker (who did look cool all synthesized) with EDI at the end gave a semi-cool impression of civilization starting over...Although it was almost identical to how Beast Machines ended, which I thought was pretty hilarious.

But why the hell was Kaiden walking off the ship behind Joker and EDI? Kaiden was with me on frigging earth, he wasn't even on the Normandy! Not to mention where the fuck is the rest of the crew, we don't get any indication of what happened to any of them? Did the 2 with me die on Earth? (Well Kaiden magically transported to the Normandy so I guess not).

This is such shit. Truly the only redeeming factor in ANY of the endings is Shepard taking a breath at the end of the red ending. But even then it's still crap.

 

[LegoArmo]

After the Thessia mission, and Kai Leng fucking everything up again, and that Asari commando screaming as the Reapers came down, I actually felt like this was one battle that my Shepard just wasn't going to win. I really felt dejected. Like there was nothing he could have done.

That part was great...

 

[hateradio]

I have the patch from the CE. It's staring me in the face, offering up a silent indictment on all the wrong decisions I've made in my life that led me to play ME3 to completion.

I should've been a cowboy, or failing that, a whale biologist. I'm betting those types of people have never even heard of a turian.

Well, at least you've experienced grief. It's what makes us human.

 

[WanderingWind]

Well, at least you've experienced the grief. It's what makes us human.

I wish my heart was DLC, so I could delete it. It hurts, man.

 

[Riggs]

I wish my heart was DLC, so I could delete it. It hurts, man.

lolol dude you cracking me up. Ok bed for real real now. This thread is addictive.

 

[dankir]

So people don't believe the indoctrination ending? Shepard survives the blast somehow wouldn't that be the most logical spot for new single player DLC?

Maybe actually fight Harbinger?

 

[seat]

People here may have already seen this video elsewhere, but I think this is easily the best video on "what should have been" for ME3's ending:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUqAhKW7498

Yes, it is just some nerd talking to a webcam for half an hour, but everyone should watch (or just listen to it) anyway. Just envisioning his explanation of what could have been is rather cathartic for me. The way he articulates how different actions and decisions could have come together in the end was what I needed to hear. The needless anger and negativity still getting thrown about by a lot of fans is getting repetitive and tiresome, but this guy's video is refreshing.

I also appreciate the fact that he gives respect where respect is due in regards to Mass Effect 3: the ending is upsetting, but that doesn't change the fact that ME3 is still a fantastic game. It's hard to take some fans seriously when they say the last ten minutes of this game retroactively makes the entire ME3 experience bad.

 

[Jintor]

It's kind of fun poking wanderingwind

for me, the ultimate insult was the "BUY DLC" popup straight after that mess of an ending. It was like an achievement unlock, but the achievement was infinite pain.

 

[inky]

So people don't believe the indoctrination ending? Shepard survives the blast somehow wouldn't that be the most logical spot for new single player DLC?

Maybe actually fight Harbinger?

No because it isn't an ending at all, just a big inconvenience that leaves you exactly where you started, only wounded.

 

[Omega]

Angry Joe's takedown of the ending was right. It would have been better if you could convince him to step down or to even help you. And yeah he shouldn't have just had similar motivations to Saren.

The whole point of indoctrination is that it consumes everyone. Once it happens, it's inevitable and you can't overcome it.

It made the Reapers that much more scary? I don't know the right word. Then Space Child tells you "JK, they're my toys"

Makes every encounter with a Reaper useless. Makes the entire series useless..

 

[Stat Flow]

After the Thessia mission, and Kai Leng fucking everything up again, and that Asari commando screaming as the Reapers came down, I actually felt like this was one battle that my Shepard just wasn't going to win. I really felt dejected. Like there was nothing he could have done.

That part was great...

Right, right. So good. And then when you go track that bastard down and KILL HIM WITH BADASS SHEP-BLADE...and have a successful mission after a complete failure...you come out on a high and say to yourself "WE CAN FUCKING DO THIS"

Then you go and realize that Kai Leng and TIM's characters don't matter in the next mission. Nor does Thessia. Or the protheans. Or beacons. Or Cerberus.

Or...Okay I'm going to go cry myself to sleep.

Speaking of Cerberus, I love how they had you free Ori and Miranda from her dad and Shep says "So what's next for you two?"

Nice troll, Bioware.

 

[WanderingWind]

It's kind of fun poking wanderingwind

for me, the ultimate insult was the "BUY DLC" popup straight after that mess of an ending. It was like an achievement unlock, but the achievement was infinite pain.

Don't take me too seriously.

I'll never knit.

 

[Rezbit]

Even an Independence Day ending would have been better. You fly into Harbinger, go to its central mainframe and upload a cold that transmits to all other Reapers. Then Shepard lands on Earth and we all honour Randy Quaid's sacrifice.

 

[Omega]

I guess I get the synthesis ending, having Joker (who did look cool all synthesized) with EDI at the end gave a semi-cool impression of civilization starting over...Although it was almost identical to how Beast Machines ended, which I thought was pretty hilarious.

But why the hell was Kaiden walking off the ship behind Joker and EDI? Kaiden was with me on frigging earth, he wasn't even on the Normandy! Not to mention where the fuck is the rest of the crew, we don't get any indication of what happened to any of them? Did the 2 with me die on Earth? (Well Kaiden magically transported to the Normandy so I guess not).

This is such shit. Truly the only redeeming factor in ANY of the endings is Shepard taking a breath at the end of the red ending. But even then it's still crap.

None of your crew is on the Normandy except Joker and the other staff. The rest of them are all fighting with you.

"Hey Shepard, we got your back til the end!
..JK LOL WE'RE LEAVING HAVE FUN WITH THE REAPERS"

 

[tonitoni]

So people don't believe the indoctrination ending? Shepard survives the blast somehow wouldn't that be the most logical spot for new single player DLC?

Maybe actually fight Harbinger?

Because there is nothing about indoctrination here. (this is Mac Walters shitty plan for the me3 ending)

 

[Bowdz]

So people don't believe the indoctrination ending? Shepard survives the blast somehow wouldn't that be the most logical spot for new single player DLC?

Maybe actually fight Harbinger?

I think it is Bioware's best option moving forward. Even though Bioware didn't plan it out, the "theory" is pretty airtight and explains a lot of the random garbage seen throughout the game and the ending. It would also allow Bioware to craft a proper boss fight with Harbinger, and who knows what else (depending on the size of the DLC/expansion, they could add much more to the battle). Yes, it would never feel entirely right because we will always know Bioware flubbed the "real" ending out of the gate, but indoctrination, by keeping with the themes and plot devices of the series, allows Bioware to effectively right their wrong.

 

[EatChildren]

"Ambiguous function"

guuuuuh

 

[WrenchNinja]

You know, not once has anyone who has gone to say "herp derp you just want a happy ending", ever actually said why a happy ending is a bad thing or the option of one is a bad thing. Shouldn't a game supposedly about choice have that option for you to earn that happy ending? To actually have every thing you do matter? Wasn't that one of the good things about the suicide mission, being able to get youre entire crew out unscathed? But no, bleak nonsensical endings are some how better.

 

[Omega]

I hope that picture tonitoni posted isn't real.

Looks like a little kid's brainstorming assignment..

 

[Galactic Fork]

How come the reapers haven't rebelled against the Catalyst? He says the created would always rebel against their creator. But he created the Reapers.

You know, not once has anyone who has gone to say "herp derp you just want a happy ending", ever actually said why a happy ending is a bad thing or the option of one is a bad thing. Shouldn't a game supposedly about choice have that option for you to earn that happy ending? To actually have every thing you do matter? Wasn't that one of the good things about the suicide mission, being able to get youre entire crew out unscathed? But no, bleak nonsensical endings are some how better.

It's more artistic.

 

[Jintor]

ME3 doesn't even have a "Reapers Win, Cycle Continues" ending.

 

[EatChildren]

How come the reapers haven't rebelled against the Catalyst? He says the created would always rebel against their creator. But he created the Reapers.

Read your question. Read it again. Ponder the answer.

You've now put in more thought than Walters did.

 

[Stat Flow]

You know, not once has anyone who has gone to say "herp derp you just want a happy ending", ever actually said why a happy ending is a bad thing or the option of one is a bad thing. Shouldn't a game supposedly about choice have that option for you to earn that happy ending? To actually have every thing you do matter? Wasn't that one of the good things about the suicide mission, being able to get youre entire crew out unscathed? But no, bleak nonsensical endings are some how better.

The other thing that makes sense about a happy ending is that the player has had to make sacrifices throughout the entire series. With some sacrifices weighing heavily on players, shouldn't they at least have the option to work hard to get the happy ending they want when it's all said and done? After all, this is it for our connection to these characters, let us be satisfied with the option of a happy ending after having to make tough decisions prior to the ending.

 

[WanderingWind]

You know, not once has anyone who has gone to say "herp derp you just want a happy ending", ever actually said why a happy ending is a bad thing or the option of one is a bad thing. Shouldn't a game supposedly about choice have that option for you to earn that happy ending? To actually have every thing you do matter? Wasn't that one of the good things about the suicide mission, being able to get youre entire crew out unscathed? But no, bleak nonsensical endings are some how better.

True Art is Angsty. If it's happy, it's pap. You have to show utter depravity, suffering and nihilism, or you might as well be writing Girl Scout cookie delivery schedules. That's why comics are so big on rape these days, and TV shows can't have healthy relationships and its why Joss Whedon is popular.