Haha, it was in response to Dresden's comment about DE:HR, not ME3. ME3 actually got really good the further it went (up to its unfortunate end). Human Revolution started strong but then sort of lost steam the longer it went, to the point where it's weak ending sort didn't bother me because I was already somewhat numb.
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Mass Effect 3 Spoiler Thread |OT2| Taste the Rainbow
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Haha, it was in response to Dresden's comment about DE:HR, not ME3. ME3 actually got really good the further it went (up to its unfortunate end). Human Revolution started strong but then sort of lost steam the longer it went, to the point where it's weak ending sort didn't bother me because I was already somewhat numb.
Sorry on iPhone. Couldn't read the spoiler text.
he is talking about deus ex human revolution
the endings where weak there,but it didn't matter .....
even the bad boss battles didnt matter cause the game has a lot of strengths....
mass effect is not a top rpg not a top shooter.
the story,univerce,characters and choices are(were?) its top-thing and this is why the ending has such a negative impact......
i think the situation is simple....
heliosRAzi
Banned
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You should use the second apps portal. I'd provide a link, but I'm in my phone also.
Well, the fact that the final level was mediocre helped to numb the pain of the mediocre endings. ME3's final level has a bunch of problems and should have numbed the pain of the crap ending, but I think the Anderson speech raises your expectations towards the ending before they come crashing down seconds later.
heliosRAzi
Banned
Huh?
Psychoward
Banned
Well it did have dumb off-screen deaths.
Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeegaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
no wonder IGN gave it a 96!
So you're fine with Joker, the normandy and the 2 people you ran to the beam with all jumping into a gigantic plothole?
heliosRAzi
Banned
Why don't you read up on why people don't like the endings
Here we go again.
Some closure at all would be nice at least.
Yeah, I want my Krogan baked cake, dammit.
Psychoward
Banned
None? None? Not even a single one?
Well, to be fair, depending on who you talked to in the game and how often, the two people may or may not be the ones who pop out of the Normandy. Of course, chances are that your love interest and your favorite character are in your party for the end. The fact that Bioware could have at least removed one of the WTF factors of that particular segment by having some kind of flag that prevents people from your party popping out of the Normandy shows how much thought Bioware put into the ending.
So we're all supposed to have the same opinion as you?
$100 says this guy/girl picked synthesis.
only the dead have closure in the ending of me3.
and we dont know who is dead anyway...........
tell me what happens to the krogans and tali for example?
I respect your opinion. Lol.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
Where are their baby Krogans?
Well said.
Nope. DH's epilogue sucked because it was at once maddeningly vague with the repercussions of what happened to the world afterward and yet also too revealing with details that didn't matter; the way all these characters seemed frozen in time with their high school crushes, had kids, with the hokiest names ever. It read like fan-fiction.
A good epilogue to ME3 would have at least given you some idea what the consequences of your actions were, reflect on its themes in a CLEAR manner (and not introduce contradictory ones at the last second), and close out the universe and characters on a more definitive note, with the sense that you can logically figure out where they go from here.
Uno Venova
Banned
Couldn't even read the OP...
littleworm
Member
Video game endings are serious business, serious enough to have a charity drive shut down apparently. Well that 80,000 dollars will go to help make a lot of kids day better.
http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/9845819/1
http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/9845819/1
That would imply that Garrus is dead. One does not simply kill Garrus...
Maybe they'll be lucky enough to get Mass Effect 3 out of this.
Red Blaster
Member
Why do the gaming press continue to call this a controversial ending
since when did controversial become a synonym for fucking stupid and terrible
since when did controversial become a synonym for fucking stupid and terrible
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
I don't necessarily want closure. I want an ending that makes sense.
When the gaming press figured that calling it "universally loathed" would piss off their corporate overloads.
who stopped the charity???
Yea I just read that too. Lol charities don't want your filthy 'entitlement' money.
So I guess you've kinda soured over the ending?
David Incorporated Esq.
Member
I liked it. Eat me.
littleworm
Member
From my understanding, the person leading up the drive, was asked to end it by Child's Play because people were assuming that Child's Play was affiliated with or supporting the RetakeME3 movement. So a 80,000 cap was set and when it was reached, they ended the drive.
The sad thing is that you can't even give them credits for making an original ending. The 3 choices are basically copy pasted from the first Deus EX and the whole "oh no space travel is now going to be really difficult from now on because we beat the bad guy" is entirely lifted from Xenosaga III.
we don't,good for you and sent a thank you tweet to bioware lol.....
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
Now that's just petty. Refusing to take money? Yeah, like the charity that gives toys to hospice children is going to catch any significant flack because they're affiliated with a totally legal video game cause du jour.
Hello everyone,
As of today, I have set an end goal for our fundraiser at $80,000.
The very idea that we would even be able to reach that goal was a fever dream only a week ago. I don't believe anyone can or should consider this effort to have been anything but spectacularly successful. As evidenced by the statement from Dr. Myzuka yesterday, we have made our voices heard. Those of you here have taken special care to be heard in a polite, positive manner, and I believe that this is a major contributor to that success.
We have shown our sincerity and passion. We have brought positive attention to the Retake Mass Effect movement.
Make no mistake. This effort has been victorious.
I have been in contact with a manager at Child's Play. First, he wanted to stress how grateful they were for our efforts here, and the huge impact it will have in helping the charity. However, he pointed out that several sources are incorrectly assuming a link between the charity and the petition, or outright support of the petition by the charity. This has been a source of difficulty for them, and it has been requested that we wind this effort down. Again, I want to stress that the charity is not unhappy with our work, they are exceptionally pleased with what we have accomplished.
There will be conspiracy theorys regarding this. Many of the public statements by Penny Arcade have been dismissive or outright derogatory of our effort. I believe this is a failure on their part to understand our issues, but they are entitled to their opinion. Regardless, I want to stress that I do not believe for one second that this is an attempt by anyone at Penny Arcade to silence this movement.
I also want you all to know I am acting unilaterally in this decision. I have been provided many eloquent arguments against winding down the drive and I appreciate them. In the end, however, I believe that now is the time for this phase of the process to come to an close.
Retake Mass Effect is not over by any means; Dr. Myzuka's statement was welcome, but did not directly address our concerns. You have been heard. Now it is time to make sure they get the details right
I will be taking a break from BSN for a time. My sincerest thanks to everyone who has supported this effort whether through donations, publicity, or kind words. Special thanks to the core group here who kept this thread polite, positive, and on track.
I hope to soon have an archive of the comments made on the ChipIn page located at www.wewillholdtheline.org.
To everyone here - my thanks, and I salute you.
Sincerely,
Robb
http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/9845819/224#10471086
littleworm
Member
It's unfortunate, this drive was probably the best thing to come out of this situation.
Maybe we should make our own strawman-talking-point-drive-by-poster, to swoop in every page to prevent us from being attacked by strawman-talking-point-drive-by-posters.
DING DING DING
Seriously, something needs to dawn upon most of the gaming press and ending supporters that the opponents do not want a happy end or one that wraps up every single loose end to ever come to fruition in the series, past and present.
The opponents just wanted an ending that made some semblance of sense, not one that was completely inane in the confines of its own established canon and setting.
Rodney McKay
Member
I hope the new ending stuff doesn't fuck up the indoctrination theory.
I never thought I'd be one of "Those Guys" believing in an ending theory like this, but I really came around on it the more I looked into it.
Maybe it's just me hoping it's true since it undoes all the stupid. Maybe I'm just hoping Bioware is SLIGHTLY more clever than I thought they were (I don't think the theory is THAT clever, but we're talking about a videogame here). Either way it makes me feel more satisfied in a completely unsatisfying ending, which is all that matters to me.
Oh well, I guess I'll find out one way or the other in April. :\
I never thought I'd be one of "Those Guys" believing in an ending theory like this, but I really came around on it the more I looked into it.
Maybe it's just me hoping it's true since it undoes all the stupid. Maybe I'm just hoping Bioware is SLIGHTLY more clever than I thought they were (I don't think the theory is THAT clever, but we're talking about a videogame here). Either way it makes me feel more satisfied in a completely unsatisfying ending, which is all that matters to me.
Oh well, I guess I'll find out one way or the other in April. :\
Actually no, never used bookmarklets. I'll look into it in the Off-Topic subsection later.
David Incorporated Esq.
Member
I'm watching the top 10 reasons we hate ME video and one of 'em bugs me. He makes a big deal about people being stranded but conveniently forgets that FTL travel is absolutely a thing that exists without the mass relays. I mean, you spend half the game doing it, how did he forget?
heliosRAzi
Banned
There's not enough fuel and the Reapers targeted fuel depots for a reason.
Hello everyone,
As of today, I have set an end goal for our fundraiser at $80,000.
The very idea that we would even be able to reach that goal was a fever dream only a week ago. I don't believe anyone can or should consider this effort to have been anything but spectacularly successful. As evidenced by the statement from Dr. Myzuka yesterday, we have made our voices heard. Those of you here have taken special care to be heard in a polite, positive manner, and I believe that this is a major contributor to that success.
We have shown our sincerity and passion. We have brought positive attention to the Retake Mass Effect movement.
Make no mistake. This effort has been victorious.
I have been in contact with a manager at Child's Play. First, he wanted to stress how grateful they were for our efforts here, and the huge impact it will have in helping the charity. However, he pointed out that several sources are incorrectly assuming a link between the charity and the petition, or outright support of the petition by the charity. This has been a source of difficulty for them, and it has been requested that we wind this effort down. Again, I want to stress that the charity is not unhappy with our work, they are exceptionally pleased with what we have accomplished.
There will be conspiracy theorys regarding this. Many of the public statements by Penny Arcade have been dismissive or outright derogatory of our effort. I believe this is a failure on their part to understand our issues, but they are entitled to their opinion. Regardless, I want to stress that I do not believe for one second that this is an attempt by anyone at Penny Arcade to silence this movement.
I also want you all to know I am acting unilaterally in this decision. I have been provided many eloquent arguments against winding down the drive and I appreciate them. In the end, however, I believe that now is the time for this phase of the process to come to an close.
Retake Mass Effect is not over by any means; Dr. Myzuka's statement was welcome, but did not directly address our concerns. You have been heard. Now it is time to make sure they get the details right
I will be taking a break from BSN for a time. My sincerest thanks to everyone who has supported this effort whether through donations, publicity, or kind words. Special thanks to the core group here who kept this thread polite, positive, and on track.
I hope to soon have an archive of the comments made on the ChipIn page located at www.wewillholdtheline.org.
To everyone here - my thanks, and I salute you.
Sincerely,
Robb
http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/9845819/224#10471086
"We don't want to be associated with a petition about a videogame ending, please stop giving us money for sick children"