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Mass Effect: Andromeda | Review Thread

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Bold One

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Just woke up to see the reviews and....

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Shame,

FemRyder was really starting to grow on me.
 
Wtf? There was nothing 'absurd' about the reaction that ending received and honestly if one little chink in the armor was enough to drive them out (after years of adulation) then good riddance.
When people demand something be changed because they didn't like it, instead of just evaluating and critiquing the art it is absurd. The idea of genuinely petitioning a company to change an ending in any other medium would be completely mocked.

It's only gaming where people legitimately feel they are owed an ending that lines up exactly with what they want instead of the one the people who actually created the thing chose to end it.

This is an Andromeda review thread though, not a ME3 ending thread and my original point has gone off on a separate tangent so I'll leave it at that.
 
Last animation gif I swear, this game would be funny if it isn't so soul crushing :(

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Is it childish of me to be kind of expecting that yang guy and a few others to say sorry? Like they got really nasty the past couple days.

Did he ragdoll onto a cryoblast patch on the ground and is now breakdancing? That's great.

Still, my interest can survive the silly ragdolling. Hell, souls fans would call that a feature.
 
If it's anything like the first Nier, that sounds like it's hub-based more than anything (kind of like OoT). Haven't played Automata yet though (shame on me!), so can't say for sure.

Play it! Best story in a game this year.

It's definitely open world. One with a world much smaller than others but fits the definition.
 

Silvard

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Ehhh. Horizon has like 1 or 2 worthwhile side quests and the rest were copy paste "go here, follow a trail, kill something". Also, I've only put about 5 or so hours into Nier so maybe that could change.

I liked most of Horizon side quests not the Errands mind you. Haven't done any of Nier side quests yet. If ME:A allows me to skip it's side quest than I would be fine.

Most of Nier's sidequests are pretty bad game design wise. They do give you extra exposition on the setting and characters, but the objectives themselves are not only dated, they're pretty tedious and boring. I've had to recommend several people with less patience than me to outright skip them and stick to the main story, as the sidequests really bog the game down.
 
When people demand something be changed because they didn't like it, instead of just evaluating and critiquing the art it is absurd. The idea of genuinely petitioning a company to change an ending in any other medium would be completely mocked.

It's only gaming where people legitimately feel they are owed an ending that lines up exactly with what they want instead of the one the people who actually created the thing chose to end it.

This is an Andromeda review thread though, not a ME3 ending thread and my original point has gone off on a separate tangent so I'll leave it at that.
Worked for Sherlock Holmes
 

Arulan

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I think the media reception as a whole always has a bit of "lag" with developers and longer series.
ME:A is probably a rather boring and predictable game (Bioware lost me a while ago), but so were other recent titles of theirs.
It's just that, by now, people have caught on, and no one wants to be the guy now who told us that DA2 had th best storytelling and combat in games or that DA:I was the best RPG released in 2014 (it's still ludicrous when I type it out, but publications actually did that).

As I stated earlier, this is what I find interesting about Mass Effect: Andromeda. Their last three games were arguably poor, but mainstream critics didn't seem to think so. Did they finally just catch up now? Is the game really that much worse? Does it offend in ways that are more intolerable to mainstream audiences such as production values?
 

Rozart

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Mass Effect 3 was great. I absolutely loved the game. Watching Garrus' home planet Palevan burn while standing on one their moons. Mordin sacrificing himself to cure the genophage. The resolution between the quarians and the geth that could lead to either Tali suicide or Legion's sacrifice. Having so many lives (Joker's, Shepard's, Garrus' family) all in limbo. They handled it really well. In the hands of a lesser developer, all these huge missions could just end feeling forced or trite.

I did play the game after they patched the ending though so I was never all that bothered by the game's conclusion.
 

Lime

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Is it childish of me to be kind of expecting that yang guy and a few others to say sorry? Like they got really nasty the past couple days.

Don't mind people like that, it has nothing to do with you, it's just a problem on their end. It doesn't matter if the game ends up good or bad, people just need to be nicer to each other over video games.

Yeah definitely this, I'll buy this shit because it's Mass Effect but we know for a long time that this game would sucks... when you're canceling beta multiplayer that sell so many games to people this generation, you know something is shit.

Oh yeah that reminds me of "don't worry, they're just suddenly cancelling the multiplayer beta because they have so much faith in it already"
 

Ulong

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Yeah there is a kind of bug that actually secretly enhances a game, and that Gif is one such bug. I legit believe Red Dead Redemption was a better game for being a buggy mess, and if the only bugs in Andromeda were shit like that spinning enemy and the poop walk, It'd be great.
 

RoyalFool

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Used a voucher to preorder so have to call amazon to get them to cancel. Loved the first 3 games so figured it was a no brainer. Wish I knew earlier it wasn't by the same team!
 
Most of Nier's sidequests are pretty bad game design wise. They do give you extra exposition on the setting and characters, but the objectives themselves are not only dated, they're pretty tedious and boring. I've had to recommend several people with less patience than me to outright skip them and stick to the main story, as the sidequests really bog the game down.

Yeah they seem very par for the course last gen JRPG.
That one's 91 on MT though ,and is far above average as a game.(despite being at the tail end of the Fromsoft games)

2 is actually their best reviewed game
 

A-V-B

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When people demand something be changed because they didn't like it, instead of just evaluating and critiquing the art it is absurd.

I have also never seen so much genuine critique of something in my life. Essay upon essay upon essay on the social boards and across the net. It was an insane pouring of hearts on that thing. So many people were against it for so many well-articulated and passionate reasons. Maybe you don't remember it, but I remember beneath the ugliness and colored cupcakes a temporary renaissance of great amateur criticism. It's a shame it's probably lost now.
 
Most of Nier's sidequests are pretty bad game design wise. They do give you extra exposition on the setting and characters, but the objectives themselves are not only dated, they're pretty tedious and boring. I've had to recommend several people with less patience than me to outright skip them and stick to the main story, as the sidequests really bog the game down.
Nah they're great.

I kid I kid! You're entitled to your opinion. It would be wrong of me to change it.
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Oh my gosh....why Bioware???
 

LotusHD

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If it's anything like the first Nier, that sounds like it's hub-based more than anything (kind of like OoT). Haven't played Automata yet though (shame on me!), so can't say for sure.

Yea, Ocarina of Time's world is the perfect comparison.

Most of Nier's sidequests are pretty bad game design wise. They do give you extra exposition on the setting and characters, but the objectives themselves are not only dated, they're pretty tedious and boring. I've had to recommend several people with less patience than me to outright skip them and stick to the main story, as the sidequests really bog the game down.

"Pisseth off!"

Lol references aside, I guess that's fair to say. It becomes far less tedious once you get fast travel. Frankly I realize that so long as sidequests have an interesting story to tell, I'll put up with anything.
 

Slaythe

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And this is the worst case scenario, my worst nightmare, when it came to how they would handle removing paragon/renegade. >_<

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Oh my god that's what I told myself when I watched streams but didn't watch too much to avoid spoilers and thought it was just "bad luck".......................

Yeah fuck it.
 

Forceatowulf

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Yeah I agree, For me combat and 30 FPS solid is a MUST, I cant play shit hitting low 20's, hopefully PRO will shine.

Odd Visual bug is not as deal breaking as shit performance so await DF.

People criticise writing and dialogue and lets face it, most games are shit except TLOU and a absolute handful of others at most, so its more then norm, and most reviewers are just plain up crap. Will listen to JIM.
Agreed. Especially the last paragraph.

I can count on one hand how many games I've played in my life that I would consider to have good writing. None of the ME games would make that list. Not even close. So I kind of shrug my shoulders a bit seeing people putting so much stock into that aspect of the game. (The atmosphere, art direction, music, and world design is what grabbed me)

Buuuut with that being said, everyone should desire quality writing from their games no matter the situation. And I don't believe games should get a pass on their shortcomings.
 

RE4PRR

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I enjoyed my 10 hour trial time so the reviews don't phase me in that regard.

Bit of a shame though at the ratings.
 

Renekton

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Well there's a reason they're timing it for March.

Going for the point where the game will have been out six months, but still a bit before the next expansion is announced.
That window may not even be a window if Activision learned anything from Legion's precise content pace.
 

aravuus

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It takes all the bad elements from Inquisition and adds nothing good.

Truly the worst thing you could say about an RPG. Months and years go by and I'm starting to feel that I genuinely hate that game lol.

Well, at least I now know to set my expectations as low as humanly possible.
 

HowZatOZ

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I just don't see a reason to play an RPG when the dialogue and VA is so utterly terrible and guaranteed meme worthy. That's the whole point of RPG's, to have a world engross you but allow you to craft your own pathways to the end. Ah well, not much is lost really.
 

HeelPower

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Most of Nier's sidequests are pretty bad game design wise. They do give you extra exposition on the setting and characters, but the objectives themselves are not only dated, they're pretty tedious and boring. I've had to recommend several people with less patience than me to outright skip them and stick to the main story, as the sidequests really bog the game down.

At least they can all be completed very quickly,objectives are clear and have plenty of awesome lore and dialogue.

Puts most sidequests to shame if you ask me.Especially in the JRPG genre which generally dont handle SQs well.(see FFXV for example)
 
The performance problems on consoles is what dissapoints me the most, although not unexpected. I'll wait for patches to do their thing and I'll probably get it when the price goes down a bit.

I was really excited for FFXV and was a bit dissapointed with that. I've been really excited for Andromeda and now this. Wish I had the money to splurge on a Switch and Zelda, but that will have to wait for a while.

Well, guess I'll get Persona 5 at launch then.
 

Mifec

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At least they can all be completed very quickly,objectives are clear and have plenty of awesome lore and dialogue.

Puts most sidequests to shame if you ask me.Especially in the JRPG genre which generally dont handle SQs well.(see FFXV for example)

XV sidequests would have been the better example yeah.
 

K.Sabot

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I just wanna throw this out there.

if we're comparing bad bioware games to each right now

FemHawke > FemRyder.

FemHawke was the best thing to come out of DA2.
 
At least they can all be completed very quickly,objectives are clear and have plenty of awesome lore and dialogue.

Puts most sidequests to shame if you ask me.Especially in the JRPG genre which generally dont handle SQs well.(see FFXV for example)

I mean.... so far they're just as bad as FFXV.
 

ULTROS!

People seem to like me because I am polite and I am rarely late. I like to eat ice cream and I really enjoy a nice pair of slacks.
So I guess this is the first flub of the year? :(
 

mjp2417

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I'm not in the camp that thinks ME3's writing was poor. I actually think it's far and away the finest character work in the entire series so his loss wasn't felt as badly on my end.

I agree. ME3's ending was a bit shit, but the rest of that game felt really confident and its momemt-to-moment writing, particularly much of the character work, was noticeably better than the first two games. The gap between, say, the character writing of Garrus and Liara in 3 and Garrus and Liara in 1 is severe.
 

Taggen86

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Clearly the worst mass effect yet given the reviews. Not surprising since the game was produced in montreal and not by the original team in edmonton. Furthermore the main creator/designer of the original trilogy casey hudson was not involved. Will probably buy it anyways since i am a huge me fan. Loved ME3 unlike many fans.
 
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