He's saying they are inflating the scores due to their enjoyment of the original trilogy. They can't come to terms that this game fails to carry the standard.
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Mass Effect: Andromeda | Review Thread
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He's saying they are inflating the scores due to their enjoyment of the original trilogy. They can't come to terms that this game fails to carry the standard.
According to some "true fans", apparently we don't. All we need is the name "Mass Effect" on the box. And fuck the reviewers!
/smh
7DollarHagane
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Looks like my prediction of mid-high 70s was spot on. Also prediction of technical issues persisting throughout the game. My biggest disappointment is that the multiplayer seems to be quite buggy as well. A real shame.
Maybe patches will polish it up by the time it hits $30.
Maybe patches will polish it up by the time it hits $30.
SamuelSupreme
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Ouch.
APZonerunner
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The flip side is that I genuinely do really, really like the characters and story in the game. It took me a while - 10 hours in I really wasn't sure, because with characters in particular it felt like they went for opposites. What if Grunt was a Grandpa? We get Drack. What if Garrus was more worried about family than duty? We get Vetra. What if Liara was still academically genius and naturally curious, but instead of a model student was a punk? Meet Peebee. What if Jacob wasn't bland and crap? Here's Liam.
I was really worried about this for a while, but slowly over the course of the game they come into their own, and in particular they sell a level of interaction and camaraderie between the crew of the Tempest that it took them three games to reach with the various Normandy crews. There's a lot of the Citadel DLC in some of the crew's interactions.
I also think the broad pathfinder story is pretty good - the antagonist is a bit under-developed, but that's about it. It takes way too long to get there (it was probably over 20 hours before I was convinced), but when it gets there I think that stuff is broadly speaking as good as the rest of ME - I don't get the story complaints. The bits people have posted as bad writing, well - they're all ways that the original trilogy suffered from in the same way - ME being pulpy and dumb.
It's a game with a split personality - combat controls great, but the RPG systems are half-baked and don't give you the choice you had in past games despite having more options on paper. The story and characters are amazing, but they're consistently undermined by bad facial animation, poorly timed scripting, etc. Generally speaking I do think the good far outweighs the bad, mind.
I think anything higher than a 7 is madness, but this is using the full scale, not the magic video games 7-10 scale.
ShadowSoldier89
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nobody told them to copy paste all the worst parts of dragon age inquisition into mass effect. ME1's exploration was janky, but it was quick and interesting while giving the universe a sense of scale. ME:A sounds like the same boring shitty fetchquests and worthless running around that plague so many open world games
Glass Rebel
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It wasn't even a review and he was spot on with all his criticisms that he backed up with actual examples.
No, it wasn't.
Soul of the Beast
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Except it's not eally Bioware.
Papacheeks
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RedlineRonin
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Well, this is a bit of a bummer. I snagged it with the visa checkout deal for $37, so i'll keep my pre order, but i'm bummed to hear it doesn't get better past everyone's initial impressions. I liked a lot of the core mechanics from the trial, so i know i'll enjoy my time, just was hoping it would pick up more later on.
Oh well. Seems enough people are pissed off that EA/Bioware will learn whatever they need to from this one and make future entries better.
Y'all got any more of that Casey Hudson?
Oh well. Seems enough people are pissed off that EA/Bioware will learn whatever they need to from this one and make future entries better.
Y'all got any more of that Casey Hudson?
Captain_Wreckus
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Think I'm one of the guilty ones in this comment and I apologize.
tiredheadcrab
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Wow these reviews are surprising. I was having fun with the combat and exploring. It really grabbed me. I like the fact that we have to build up the Nexus and such as well. I am hooked.
The writing is awful though. I mean on the very first planet the guy goes "I need to get into that door over there!" Im like what are you talking about? That was so badly delivered. I havent encountered any glitches yet but that is something I can overlook if they arent as bad as Skyrim.
I will keep my deluxe and just keep playing as I enjoy the combat and RPG mechanics.
The writing is awful though. I mean on the very first planet the guy goes "I need to get into that door over there!" Im like what are you talking about? That was so badly delivered. I havent encountered any glitches yet but that is something I can overlook if they arent as bad as Skyrim.
I will keep my deluxe and just keep playing as I enjoy the combat and RPG mechanics.
To me even Dragon Age: I had better animations and less technical glitches.
Mass Effect has always been a kludgey mess but the novelty of a well-written space opera RPG propelled it through the crappy gameplay and increasingly anemic RPG mechanics. As the writing got worse the novelty began to wear and by the end of the 3rd game it was clear what this series strengths and weaknesses were and if it was to reclaim it's former glory it would have to be on the back of a shift in priority.
Andromeda doesn't seem to have learned the lesson of ME3. You can't just keep making the same flawed game in a bigger world with worse writing and expect the novelty of the past to continue to carry you. It's the exact same trajectory that Dragon Age has taken, actually.
PandaShake
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I learn of the existence of more and more review sites in every review thread.
MosquitoSmasher
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Yup I just watched his review too. Basically there is plenty to do for many hours but the question is do you want to? Is it worth it? It sure doesn't sound like it.
What a fucking shame. I was hoping the other planets would be full of detail and reason to explore. I doubt this means the end for ME though, after all we did get Inquisition after DA2.
I disagree.
There were ways to bring back the Mako without Ubi-softing the game. They just did it wrong. That's all there is to it.
I still enjoyed the Mako in ME1 way more than planet scanning etc. I do not enjoy working through Ubisoft-style collectathon maps. ME1 wasn't that (although the planet missions were far from perfect).
Royce McCutcheon
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10/10
Captain_Wreckus
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I'm with you there. Can't wait.
Ruthless_Barbarian
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Gaming journalism 101.
Justice_Bolt
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Well ,can't wait to play this game. 75 is good to me. I hate this new trend that game that don't get 90 or higher are trash. Seems like this is the way a lot of people think in this forum. Anyways, if you don't play this game because of the metacritic score...Then it's your lost i guess?
Audioboxer
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Happy? lol, hell no.
People are salty and bitter as fuck because ME is dear to many of us as the greatest Sci-Fi/Space RPG of all time. Or at least one of the greats.
Yeah I got that explained to me.
Interfectum
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I feel bad for anyone who pre-ordered this digitally with no way to get a refund. What a turkey. Buyer beware even for Mass Effect now.
Haven't seen it yet
Which is sad. I absolutely loved ME2 and 3 and I found the combat while also the narritive to feel great and look great and today it's still on my all time high list, 3 was a downer and honestly, most of the jank I can forgive but after 10 hours with the game, SP felt buggy and full of MMO fetch and all that and the worst is that the gameplay felt incredibly poor. It lacked impact and feedback, enemies have huge health pools and the only thing that make them reactive is bionic powers; which on anything above Normal makes it into a poor gears game IMO, was the only positive in it all for me combat wise.
It's just something incredibly odd about the whole experience and it feels off. Can't say I particularly like the MP either as it have its flaws too both gameplay, map and connection wise, at least during the trial.
It angers me, I was looking forward to this, but fuck em.
This sounds more like Dragon Age Inqusition in space then a new Mass Effect. Guess I will wait for it to hit the bargain bin. There is no way I am ever paying full price for a game that sounds like it's designed like DA:I. Which I consider the worst game I played this whole generation. Such a disappointment loved Mass Effect 1,2 and 3.
https://www.gameseek.co.uk/pd/Video...z46gW0axj7rnGM5gtfW_nLlrPWp7o4jXT4aAhHw8P8HAQ
Although give it another few weeks and it might be < £35.
Or
http://www.***********/video-games/...tofKZEue_lIG0H_ySEjSyYR7UabMKOLqGkaArGs8P8HAQ (shopto)
Because cheapest price from what I can see and
Already have both and absolutely loved them. 2 fantastic games.
May pickup Dreamfall Chapters on the 23rd instead.
His Majesty
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I will still buy it day one. I need to experience the disappointment myself.
Better than BotW. 8/10.
Irishonion
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Haha, crazy lower than I expected.
Chronospherics
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I think you'd be naive to think that there isn't considerable overlap. It's not as if those that buy these games don't buy anything but sci-fi wrpgs. It's nonsense not to think that even games like The Witcher 3, target largely the same demographic as Mass Effect. Just because a game doesn't have as heavy rooting in its sci-fi themes doesn't mean that it's not appealing on account of many of the same principles.
Many people invest in these franchises for the narrative, world building, rpg systems and sense of discovery, all of which share similar traits across these games. Additionally, there are a lot of consumers like myself, that just prioritise their purchasing towards good games. I didn't know Nier Automata was my type of game until I saw the critical esteem it was receiving, so I picked it up. For me, it effectively took Andromeda's slot.
Yes, Horizon is a PS4 exclusive, but Mass Effect would have sold the majority of its units on the PS4. You dismiss it like it's irrelevant, but it's not, additionally, these quality titles are stacking up, and good games do sell systems, it's not beyond the realms of possibility to think that many people will buy PS4s, or Switches for games like Horizon and Breath of the Wild.
DarknessTear
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Happyconsolegamer finally made a video where he was overall negative... about this game. Damn. Must be really fuckin' bad. I'm regretting my preorder. Probably will just play Zelda while Andromeda sits there and then maybe go to it after I finish Persona 5 and have nothing to play.
Nah, he will probably give it a 4 or 5.
I agree with you to an extent, but I think Dragon Age: Inquisition isn't a good example. The character writing in DA:I is as good or better than DA: Origin, and the critical path is a lot of fun. The existence of too many throw-away quests is a genuine problem, but it doesn't take away from the core of fun that Bioware successfully crafted.
GlamFM
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Sarcasm? Because if not get this shit right out of here.
Audioboxer
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Not yet. Depends if he was given a review copy or will have needed to buy it. I don't think EA blacklist him like Konami?
Heckler456
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Why would they have to eat crow in regards to that specific matter? The guy had a very questionable opinion about a basically universally loved and lauded game within the same genre as the one he was criticizing. If you can't question someone's opinion with that in your back pocket, when can you? Even a broken clock, and all that.
Haha, his site will get DDoS'ed again if that happens.
It has much more to do with what the critics say about the missions, the characters, the dialogue, the animations, the combat and the UI than a number.
He was tweeting yesterday that he is still working on Nier: Automata, so maybe his review will take quite a while?
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