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Mass Effect: Andromeda | Review Thread
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100% right? The game still
Shadow Broker
Banned
While I am buying Mass Effect Andromeda Persona 5 is the game I've been waiting for since... well, for a very long time. If I had to choose I would go Persona 5 over this or any other game.
A lot of reviews say they put over 60 hours into it.
superNESjoe
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There's a difference between being a fan, and blindly following a brand/logo around.
There's too much to play and too much to do with my life, if a game in a series I love, ends up sucking (this isn't saying Andromeda sucks, I'm just speaking generally at this point) then I can still be a fan of the series prior to that and have zero interest in playing a bad entry.
Halo 5 is a really bad Halo game in my opinion, but I'm still a huge Halo fan for everything prior to that. I don't think Skyward Sword is all that great, but I'm still a rabid Zelda fan.
SomedayTheFire
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RPS didn't give a score, so uh what?
Pretty much. I don't see where most of the above 8s come from with the current build reading them but it's just an arbitrary number but it really doesn't add up to the article and justification themselves imo
Chronospherics
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Launching alongside Breath of the Wild, Horizon and Nier Automata, this is going to be a really hard sell to consumers with that reception.
If it had launched in isolation, in a quiet month of the year, then it might have stood a chance, but as is there's not much reason to spend money or time here when it could be better spent elsewhere, and only the very dedicated gamers will do so because they've already beaten those other games. Both Nier Automata and Horizon have better written sci-fi themed narratives. Horizon has better combat and a more immersive, exploratory open world setting.
If space travel is really a must, or you're just a big fan of the Mass Effect franchise then I can see the appeal, but that aside I can see this one failing to meet commercial expectations.
I was expecting more, personally, but something had to give, 2017 was looking too good to be true.
If it had launched in isolation, in a quiet month of the year, then it might have stood a chance, but as is there's not much reason to spend money or time here when it could be better spent elsewhere, and only the very dedicated gamers will do so because they've already beaten those other games. Both Nier Automata and Horizon have better written sci-fi themed narratives. Horizon has better combat and a more immersive, exploratory open world setting.
If space travel is really a must, or you're just a big fan of the Mass Effect franchise then I can see the appeal, but that aside I can see this one failing to meet commercial expectations.
I was expecting more, personally, but something had to give, 2017 was looking too good to be true.
Eh, that just reads like they think a Mass Effect game should get more than 4 stars
Doomshroom
Member
OK thats 39 pages and no talk about the multiplayer. How is the multiplayer??? after ME3 its all i care about and if it as good im down day 1.
Royal_Phalanx
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His trashing of Witcher 3 was pretty related, unless that's not the game you're talking about
Did you think it read like a 7.5?
Nothing, and that's the problem.
The Forbes review in particular really reads like "I want to like this game so I'm going to overlook every single flaw listed in this review".
VectorVictor
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See Dragon Age II: One Cave to Run Them All (Through)
Is this the weakest critical reception of the games on GAF's 'most anticipated for 2017' top ten that has released so far?
Goes to show that there was a lot of anticipation for ME:A based on ME3 (and despite the ending), people still expected Bioware to knock it out of the park with this, but it sounds more like DA:I than the focused, almost claustrophobic missions of the ME trilogy that dripped with atmosphere and cool alien races. The idea that we can head to a new part of the galaxy and it's still full of fetch quests and bipeds with guns at a broadly comparable tech level (presumably to facilitate the TPS combat) is a bit pedestrian given the premise. I was expecting it to open with something really weird and awe-inspiring rather than a hub world, shopping centre and loot.
The Reapers were alien to the point of being incomprehensible in their tech, motives and power level (at least in the first two games), this just sounds like villain of the week on a mid-season episode of Star Trek.
Goes to show that there was a lot of anticipation for ME:A based on ME3 (and despite the ending), people still expected Bioware to knock it out of the park with this, but it sounds more like DA:I than the focused, almost claustrophobic missions of the ME trilogy that dripped with atmosphere and cool alien races. The idea that we can head to a new part of the galaxy and it's still full of fetch quests and bipeds with guns at a broadly comparable tech level (presumably to facilitate the TPS combat) is a bit pedestrian given the premise. I was expecting it to open with something really weird and awe-inspiring rather than a hub world, shopping centre and loot.
The Reapers were alien to the point of being incomprehensible in their tech, motives and power level (at least in the first two games), this just sounds like villain of the week on a mid-season episode of Star Trek.
Pie and Beans
Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
It looks like and review text is sounding like a 5/10 or 6/10 game but its definitely getting franchise nostalgia bumps as John Walker says. Same sorta dealio games like Fallout and whatnot enjoy.
benicillin
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The only game on that list that has overlap is Horizon, and it's a PS4 exclusive. I sincerely doubt Zelda or Nier are targeting the same audience as mass effect.
Yeah I don't understand what he's trying to say. I haven't come across any review that makes it seem like the author wishes the game deserved it's score.
Swimmer9800
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I knew this was going to be the case. I was really hoping for it to come out and be proven wrong.
How you can equate the writing in ME1 and ME3 (and ME:A) is completely beyond me. Two completely different leagues.
So no, the series didn't stay the same at all. Gameplay arguably got better, plot/writing took a nosedive after Drew left.
You're correct, I misattributed it a numerical score. Change that "positive reception" if you will. It's kind of annoying to see JW state that every other reviewer who's more positive about the game is engaging in self-delusion.
Interfectum
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Wow, is Mass Effect the 2017 review combo breaker? Things were going so well this year...
Heckler456
Banned
He's not 100% right. Other people have different opinions than his, as his evident by him whining about positive reviews on twitter.
Fbh
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Well you enjoyed DA2 . Based on what I've seen there is no way this feels more rushed and low budget than DA2.
So you should still enjoy it a lot.
Royce McCutcheon
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I'm very upset this isn't reviewing as well as the big 3. Some of yall seem happy this game is reviewing low(er). Dont we want games to be as good as possible. Damn, mass effect is like top 3 series for me, this blows.
Holundrian
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Fuck scores and reviews the real news is 2017 when a Mass Effect game has more jank than a Yoko Taro game.
I'm happy that people don't gloss over shit(because I've been misinformed by reviews in the past and wasted money). I'm sad that this doesn't live up to its legacy. As much as I didn't like ME3 ending lots of my favorite gaming moments have been part of the ME games. Mordin's entire story line and payoff is still one of my most favorite gaming experiences ever.
LordOcidax
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A 70 for a 90 franchise.
Still standing by the sentiment that John Walker is an unreliable source of critical analysis. A writer who opts for sensationalist tone over nuanced critique.
Nothing wrong with that of course if you like that style. Just go in with eyes wide open and take his presentation with a grain of salt.
Absolutely true. I am still going to play it, but I sure as hell do not blame people for not wanting to spend $60 for a game that looks to be pretty much unfinished even after five years of development. There is just no excuse for that, especially for a title like Mass Effect making it's first appearance on a new generation of hardware.
Great post.
Also when it comes to actually exploring different cultures, Mass Effect 2 did that better as well.
The first Mass Effect was just the set up, after you leave the citadel you are just running after Saren, the Protheans and the Reapers on one uninteresting world after another. Therum is a big nothing of a planet, it exists only for us the rescue Liara, who is awful in the first game. Feros, another human colony, this one housing a Saren/Prothean exposition machine in the form of the Thorian. Virmire, the D-Day planet, it's just a big war section really, with the Reapers finally revealing themselves at end. Illos, more Prothean and Reaper stuff, i.e. the two least interesting things in this series. Noveria is all right.
In Mass Effect 2 you actually went to the cultural hubs of the galaxy and learned from them, be it Tuchanka where you explore the history of the genophage with Mordin, or Krogan rights of passage with Grunt; Illium, a ruthless Asari commerce world where we meet Samara whose strict code of justice clashes well with the planet's glamorous but deeply corrupt Asari corporate culture; Omega, the Terminus Systems' (which we basically know nothing about at this point) seedy and lawless counterpart to the citadel where we meet Garrus again, who finally all but abandoned his sense of justice, and Mordin who serves instrumental later on in filling out the joint history of the Krogans and the Salarians, or the Migrant Fleet where the Quarian culture and by extension Tali finally comes alive and becomes interesting.
That's without mentioning Thane, who introduces us to the Drell, and Legion, who basically does the same thing for the Geth.
SuperBanana
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They said it in the Quick Look fairly early on. Both Jeff and Brad.
http://www.giantbomb.com/videos/quick-look-mass-effect-andromeda/2300-11936/
Strangelove77
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Wow. It has a lower Metacritic than Dragon Age Inquisition. Was not expecting that. I was never ever expecting a "return to form" from Bioware like a lot of people did, but I figured it'd be somewhere in the 80s.
SomedayTheFire
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I thought I missed something. Was wondering if they actually gave it a score for some reason.
The Baron Count
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Why am I not surprised to see so many people only focusing on the reviews that support their opinion and acting like the ones that don't are invalid or don't exist?
The reaction to this game from the get go has been just ridiculous. Based on what I played, a 75 seems very accurate. This is a game that doesn't live up to it's predecessors in a bunch of very important ways and it's perfectly normal for people to be disappointed with that, but the hyperbole that has been going on for over a week now is insane even for Gaf.
I swear, the lack of degrees seems to be getting worse. Everything doesn't have to be either the best or worst thing ever.
The reaction to this game from the get go has been just ridiculous. Based on what I played, a 75 seems very accurate. This is a game that doesn't live up to it's predecessors in a bunch of very important ways and it's perfectly normal for people to be disappointed with that, but the hyperbole that has been going on for over a week now is insane even for Gaf.
I swear, the lack of degrees seems to be getting worse. Everything doesn't have to be either the best or worst thing ever.
Ryzaki009
Member
How about no.
AnthonypUK
Member
Yes but the whole theme of the first quarter of that thread was a bunch of Mass Effect fans saying hes the only one with negative thoughts on it, hes wrong, hes clickbaity, he didn't like the witcher so doesn't know what hes on about etc.
Alot of his criticism's have come to pass in other reviews, and the scores that followed, where are these people saying he was wrong. to eat their crow.
Guy LeDouche
Banned
If someone else that's played it thinks the pros outweigh the cons and therefore, in their opinion, rated it higher than he would, its fine. Who cares? I don't know. My expectations were pretty low so maybe that's the difference. Just seems like a weird thing to get hung up on.
And if he's not naming names and linking to specific reviews/passages, he's just creating nonsense drama.
Soul of the Beast
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I usually hate this kind of wording, but I can't help agreeing with him.
Can you show that your criticism applies to this review? He provides examples to illustrate his points, it isn't just sound and fury.
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