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[Angry_Megalodon]

At this point one should presume that the police had already interrogated that Mustapha guy. Where does he live? In Alpha Centauri??? Seriously, what the fuck, man.

Oh shit…

100% not conflict of interests

 

[DeepEnigma]

This looks like the "person of interest's" jacket.

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[Unknown Soldier]

The doublespeak here. Goes on a stress rant about how it's a dangerous game to propose someone is the shooter. And to leave it to the professionals. Then at the end says, "What the public can do today is to help us figure out who this guy is."

His entire statement here is incredibly suspicious. His demeanor, the content of his statement, the inherent contradiction between the first part "This definitely NOT who we are looking for and public speculation is DANGEROUS" and the second part "we need to public to help us identify the guy but not THAT GUY" is really obvious too

 

[Brucey]

Oh shit…

https://www.dea.gov/press-releases/2025/02/08/leader-large-scale-fentanyl-trafficking-conspiracy-sentenced-225-years

You can probably do pretty large scale trafficking when your police chief uncle and his entire police force turns a blind eye...

 

[DeepEnigma]

All this fuckery coming out of the school, police and state officials.

Insane how their image and perception is more important than your children. Especially a certain class of students.

All trust is being eroded.

 

[Brucey]

All this fuckery coming out of the school, police and state officials.

Insane how their image and perception is more important than your children. Especially a certain class of students.

All trust is being eroded.

Seems like a a total shithole. Imagine paying $100k a year to go there....

Settlement Agreement between the United States and Brown University

Full text of the 8/9/21 settlement agreement between the United States of America and Brown University under title iii of the ADA

archive.ada.gov

 

[Idleyes]

You gotta work extra hard not to see the similarity.

 

[DeepEnigma]

You gotta work extra hard not to see the similarity.

People in some of the online comments I seen, "one looks older than the other so it can't be the same person."

How the F can you tell age with a blurry video and a mask, ya goofy retards

This is why eyewitness testimony is considered weak and unreliable evidence in a high profile cases like murder.

 

[Angry_Megalodon]

Nothing can be concluded from those poor quality pics and footage.

Again I gotta ask: has someone gotten in touch with the guy? As easy as to contact him and ask him where he was when this happened, right?

 

[DeepEnigma]

Nothing can be concluded with those poor quality pics and footage.

Again I gotta ask: has someone gotten in touch with the guy? As easy as to contact him and ask him where he was when this happened, right?

That's the million dollar question. The press conference and how they reacted seemed very, very suspect. Very defensive.

It's so simple for them to say they verified and spoke with him, or, that their investigation is on going. Instead, they acted like the press accused a cheating spouse of, cheating.

 

[LordCBH]

That's the million dollar question. The press conference and how they reacted seemed very, very suspect. Very defensive.

It's so simple for them to say they verified and spoke with him, or, that their investigation is on going. Instead, they acted like the press accused a cheating spouse of, cheating.

This is exactly why I believe the fat little terrorist defender is the guy.

 

[EverydayBeast]

This is sad first, they will probably find the shooter, go into classroom student history.

 

[Idleyes]

Nothing can be concluded with those poor quality pics and footage.

Not even the way he walks? That seems fairly clear in the video. I'm firmly in the "innocent until proven guilty" camp btw.

 

[KimDongHwan]

Found this one funny, imagine he is not the killer, how unlucky to have recorded this video with his hands in the back:

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

Found this one funny, imagine he is not the killer, how unlucky to have recorded this video with his hands in the back:

Might be reading too much into it but the dogs act terrified of him

 

[LordCBH]

Might be reading too much into it but the dogs act terrified of him

I trust the instincts of animals like dogs when it comes to people.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

I trust the instincts of animals like dogs when it comes to people.

You can usually tell dogs that want to please and dogs too scared not to obey

Usually

 

[EviLore]

Extremely suspicious.

 

[DragoonKain]

Also have to keep in mind that the videos they're releasing are not necessarily the shooter. They're persons of interest. They may be the shooter, but they may not be.

 

[Hari Seldon]

Have they come and out explicitly said that this is definitely not the shooter? Like what the fuck is going on?

 

[Kacho]

Like what the fuck is going on?

They don't want to encourage internet detectives.

 

[DragoonKain]

I don't think they know who the shooter is. Either because the shooter masked their face or because CCTV video wasn't good enough, or because the shooter planned it in a way to best conceal their identity and not leave evidence. Whatever the reason, I don't think they know who it is. I think they're going over CCTV footage of people in the area and trying to find people who fit the eye witness description of the shooter or people who look suspicious.

It may be stunning, but don't forget this isn't CSI: Miami. This stuff can take time especially if you have very little video or forensic evidence to go by.

 

[DeepEnigma]

They don't want to encourage internet detectives.

Unless it's that Wisconsin kid where the police were quick to release a name on, and somehow the CHIEF didn't know the difference between a suspect in 'custody,' and a person of interest 'detained' for an interview.

They let that internet run wild.

 

[Hari Seldon]

They don't want to encourage internet detectives.

But they released images and asked for help lol.

 

[jason10mm]

Their sign language interpreter looks like she's on meth... wtf lol

Yeah, I was gona ask bro DeafTourette if this was a good or bad example. I'm assuming those facial expressions convey information but it seems quite extreme compared to most. Personally I'd find her incredibly distracting if I was fielding questions but I guess that's just a skill you learn when becoming a public figure in some jurisdictions.

 

[Idleyes]

But they released images and asked for help lol.

To be fair, local law enforcement may be seeking assistance from the local community, but that still doesn't apply to the FBI.

 

[IntentionalPun]

We've see this exact type of "it's got to be this guy" internet detecting fail probably more often than not but definitely quite a few high profile times.

Im mostly a wait and see person after the Boston marathon bombing suspect fiasco a long time ago.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

We've see this exact type of "it's got to be this guy" internet detecting fail probably more often than not but definitely quite a few high profile times.

Im mostly a wait and see person after the Boston marathon bombing suspect fiasco a long time ago.

I haven't kept up with everything coming from law enforcement but have they said anything like "We looked at this guy closely and have verified his whereabouts at the time of the shooting, he is 100% not the shooter" ?

Could put an end to that part anyhow.

 

[jason10mm]

We've see this exact type of "it's got to be this guy" internet detecting fail probably more often than not but definitely quite a few high profile times.

Im mostly a wait and see person after the Boston marathon bombing suspect fiasco a long time ago.

To be fair though, "that guy", if he were innocent, ought to be giving some statements, at least through his lawyer.

"Oh, I was at mosque during that time, here is video" and poof, he's cleared.

Going dark seems like the worst possible choice, if he were innocent.

 

[IntentionalPun]

I haven't kept up with everything coming from law enforcement but have they said anything like "We looked at this guy closely and have verified his whereabouts at the time of the shooting, he is 100% not the shooter" ?

Could put an end to that part anyhow.

Brown said this, after referring to conspiracy theories online:

"It is not unusual as a safety measure to take steps to protect an individual's safety when this kind of activity happens, including in regard to their online presence. As law enforcement officials stated clearly on Tuesday afternoon, if this individual's name had any relevance to the current investigation, they would be actively looking for this individual and providing information publicly."

Who is Mustapha Kharbouch? Why Brown University removed a student profile after shooting | Today News

Brown University cautioned against targeting individuals and emphasised that removing information can be a safety measure, as no suspects have been publicly identified in the investigation.

www.livemint.com

 

[IntentionalPun]

To be fair though, "that guy", if he were innocent, ought to be giving some statements, at least through his lawyer.

"Oh, I was at mosque during that time, here is video" and poof, he's cleared.

Going dark seems like the worst possible choice, if he were innocent.

The public doesn't exactly have a great track record for believing people.

Perhaps he's just laying low until there's a different suspect identified? Maybe he just doesn't know WTF to do?

 

[DeepEnigma]

Oh, well that settles it then.

Just like did with that Wisconsin kid, oh wait. Just like they lied about the school shooting alarm system. Oh... wait.

 

[Kacho]

If it ends up being the porky Palestinian it's going to be the funniest shit ever

 

[Angry_Megalodon]

If I were innocent and saw my profile all over the internet, I'd be threatening to sue every person on the planet.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

If I were innocent and saw my profile all over the internet, I'd be threatening to sue every person on the planet.

I am for sure finding a way to get my message out that I was innocent

 

[Hookshot]

If it ends up being the porky Palestinian it's going to be the funniest shit ever

If it isn't then neither the police nor the internet can figure it out.

 

[Idleyes]

Going dark seems like the worst possible choice, if he were innocent.

Putting myself in an innocent persons shoes in this situation? I don't know, man. Given how easily misinformation spreads - for example on Twitter, I'd genuinely be worried about my family's safety because innocence just isn't enough for some people. Nothing I/you say could convince unhinged people, it would just give them more material to recycle into conspiracy theories. I would absolutely contact a lawyer, follow their advice, and cooperate fully with law enforcement by providing any information I have to help those harmed seek justice. Fuck talking to the media or posting on bullshit social platforms.

Meanwhile, I would definitely move my immediate family to a safe location. Anyone threatening them would be summarily dealt with through lawful means.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Current live update: Seems like more nothingburger.

 

[Ikutachi]

Yeah, I was gona ask bro DeafTourette if this was a good or bad example. I'm assuming those facial expressions convey information but it seems quite extreme compared to most. Personally I'd find her incredibly distracting if I was fielding questions but I guess that's just a skill you learn when becoming a public figure in some jurisdictions.

I know ASL and she's nothing out of the ordinary.

 

[jason10mm]

I know ASL and she's nothing out of the ordinary.

Are the facial expressions and kind of exaggerated mouth movements part of it? Personal flair or what?

 

[Ikutachi]

Are the facial expressions and kind of exaggerated mouth movements part of it? Personal flair or what?

Without the facial expressions would be like reading where all punctuation and tone are removed.

 

[Unknown Soldier]

 

[jason10mm]

I've little doubt that they have much better video of the perp. They are just trickling this crap out because they already know who it is and they don't want a general witchhunt of religious fervor.

No doubt later on when it all comes out it will be "oh, we weren't quite sure and we didn't want to spook him before capture".

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

I've little doubt that they have much better video of the perp. They are just trickling this crap out because they already know who it is and they don't want a general witchhunt of religious fervor.

No doubt later on when it all comes out it will be "oh, we weren't quite sure and we didn't want to spook him before capture".

I still bet all we get is "we cornered the perp today and he died in a shootout with police" or "we located the perp but they had already taken their own life" that way they can paint whatever picture they fancy

Either way I would be shocked if anyone ever gets arrested in this case

 

[Stitch]

 

[Brucey]

"Close proximity to person of interest...."

 

[DragoonKain]

I don't think they have any idea who it is. If they did, they wouldn't be pleading with the public for tips and delaying an arrest because this individual or individuals could carry out more attacks. I think it's a bad set of circumstances where they haven't been able to identify this person or persons yet. They could have a million cameras, if their identify was concealed or the video is low quality, their options are limited.

People are understandably short of patience, but I think the grand conspiracies I've been reading are really baseless.

 

[DeepEnigma]

This reeks.

- Patrols cars have no dash cams.
- No perimeter cameras where they "think" he exited.
- They don't even know where he entered or exited
- They don't know how many or who was in the classroom
- They went from "it was a long rifle" to "it's a smaller gun… maybe"
- Now maybe a second person but they won't even tell you if it's as simple as a man or a woman
- They claim they have footage from inside the building but claim you can't see the killer's face on it, so not worth releasing

All news stations from NBC to Fox, to even CNN are questioning everything as "what the fuck bro how come you're not being straight with us and flip flopping" (paraphrased)

There is much, much more inconsistencies. Now they're super defensive yelling at people to "solve it then" all passive aggressive.

University Chief's own union voted a 'no confidence' against the Chief weeks prior due to being unqualified. He was hired by Utah University prior, they told him either he resign or be fired because he lacked proper credentials. Brown scooped him up all DEI like.

 

[EviLore]

The police don't even know the names of the students who were in the room where the attack happened, nor have they interviewed them.

 

[Brucey]

The police don't even know the names of the students who were in the room where the attack happened, nor have they interviewed them.

We just gotta let the pros handle it mmmmkay.....

Edit
I guess if they never ask, they'll never find out what he yelled out before shooting....