Charlie Kirk assassinated at Utah campus event

Trump expanding the war on domestic terrorism by including ALL OTHER violent left-wing organizations



It's about time to reign down on the violent left-wing groups :messenger_pouting: :messenger_pouting: :messenger_pouting: Young lefties/'progressives' are the most violent group of people


Does this graph depict both liberals and conservatives see eye to eye on violence now?
 
I'm not minimising a thing.

BTW, is that nurse above correct they are using a Harvard study as the basis? Perhaps it's a dufferent Harvard?
It's a meta analysis by someone who has been paid to be an expert witness in litigation against Tylenol for causing autism.
 
Does this graph depict both liberals and conservatives see eye to eye on violence now?
No, it shows that old people are less prone to justify acts of violence, but for young people the liberals are FAR more willing to justify acts of violence. Young conservatives are less prone than their older counterparts.

To me this reflects the level of persecution (legally justifiable or not) against conservative causes in past decades while the more progressive causes got free reign to do basically whatever they wanted. So now we have young progressives that think they will never face consequences and young conservatives that are well aware they they face heavily weighted consequences.
 
No, it shows that old people are less prone to justify acts of violence, but for young people the liberals are FAR more willing to justify acts of violence. Young conservatives are less prone than their older counterparts.

To me this reflects the level of persecution (legally justifiable or not) against conservative causes in past decades while the more progressive causes got free reign to do basically whatever they wanted. So now we have young progressives that think they will never face consequences and young conservatives that are well aware they they face heavily weighted consequences.
The timing of the poll probably has something to do with it. But honestly what is wrong with young conservatives, otherwise? Doesn't the second amendment partially exist to allow resistance to the government? Wasn't the US founded by political violence? Us old bastards just want piece and quiet and status quo but young kids shouldn't be capitulating so easy.
Not that I think violence is justified in the current landscape - but to think it is never justified? That the people in the US should have accepted England's rule or only resisted peacefully?
 
To me this reflects the level of persecution (legally justifiable or not) against conservative causes in past decades while the more progressive causes got free reign to do basically whatever they wanted. So now we have young progressives that think they will never face consequences and young conservatives that are well aware they they face heavily weighted consequences.
I think this is more due to the fact that social media deshumanised people who don't have the same belief system as you, and the more you spend time scrolling, the more you're likely to feel less empathy towards people on the other side of the political spectrum. And with people who grew up exclusively with social media, it is even easier (than let's say us "old people" who still remember a bit how the world was before doom-scrolling).
 
You are actually taking this at face value? If my wife was dying along with my unborn child I wouldn't be phoning a nurse from Instagram.


I dont know if this particular story is fake or real, but I have seen enough of these girls drinking that medicine only to prove Trump wrong and get some social points. That's insanity.
 
I dont know if this particular story is fake or real, but I have seen enough of these girls drinking that medicine only to prove Trump wrong and get some social points. That's insanity.

Why would you assume any of those videos are genuine either?

Just put your rational thinking hat for a moment.

A hypothetical pregnant liberal woman purposefully overdosed on tylenol just to prove trump wrong .. and then her husband, instead of taking her to the ICU, calls the director of American Frontline Nurses, a notoriously anti covid-vaccine group that advocated to parents to give their kids a horse de-wormer instead.

If you believe the above, follow me cause I have a great opportunity and a bridge with your name on it to sell.
 
I think this is more due to the fact that social media deshumanised people who don't have the same belief system as you, and the more you spend time scrolling, the more you're likely to feel less empathy towards people on the other side of the political spectrum. And with people who grew up exclusively with social media, it is even easier (than let's say us "old people" who still remember a bit how the world was before doom-scrolling).
This doesn't explain the gap between young conservatives and young liberals though. Why would young conservatives be less likely to say violence can be justified compared to older generations, whereas young liberals are massively more likely than older generations (and conservatives) to say it can be justified?

If your explanation were correct then I would expect younger people both conservative + liberal to be more accepting of violence.
 
A hypothetical pregnant liberal woman purposefully overdosed on tylenol just to prove trump wrong .. and then her husband, instead of taking her to the ICU, calls the director of American Frontline Nurses, a notoriously anti covid-vaccine group that advocated to parents to give their kids a horse de-wormer instead.
Oy, really? horse de-wormer? Ivermectin has been given safely for humans for more than 20 years. It's for scabies and stuff like that.
 
Why would you assume any of those videos are genuine either?

Just put your rational thinking hat for a moment.

A hypothetical pregnant liberal woman purposefully overdosed on tylenol just to prove trump wrong .. and then her husband, instead of taking her to the ICU, calls the director of American Frontline Nurses, a notoriously anti covid-vaccine group that advocated to parents to give their kids a horse de-wormer instead.

If you believe the above, follow me cause I have a great opportunity and a bridge with your name on it to sell.


There are many girls on Tiktok doing stupid things just for clout. Are those fake as well? If they are drinking mineral water instead of taking the medicine, what's the difference? The purpose is to make people believe that's fine, which objectively is not.

As for bridges, I doubt yours is fancier than saying that Covid was transmitted by a Pokemon, which five years after is still the official version. In this matter, nobody is in a solid position to claim any sort of truth.
 
There are many girls on Tiktok doing stupid things just for clout. Are those fake as well? If they are drinking mineral water instead of taking the medicine, what's the difference? The purpose is to make people believe that's fine, which objectively is not.

Doing shit to go viral on tik-tok versus putting your kid at risk on purpose are two different things. And yes, I also think most shit on tiktok is also fake and performative done just for the clout.

Anyway, the point being that this 'executive director's story is very clearly fake as fuck.

As for bridges, I doubt yours is fancier than saying that Covid was transmitted by a Pokemon, which five years after is still the official version. In this matter, nobody is in a solid position to claim any sort of truth.

ok ?
 
The timing of the poll probably has something to do with it. But honestly what is wrong with young conservatives, otherwise? Doesn't the second amendment partially exist to allow resistance to the government? Wasn't the US founded by political violence? Us old bastards just want piece and quiet and status quo but young kids shouldn't be capitulating so easy.
Not that I think violence is justified in the current landscape - but to think it is never justified? That the people in the US should have accepted England's rule or only resisted peacefully?
Maybe that is supposed to be the implication of 'citizens' in the question, but it should be clearer.

Otherwise I agree with you. Representative government has commonly been arrived at via political violence, and we typically celebrate that rather than condemn it.
 
I think this is more due to the fact that social media deshumanised people who don't have the same belief system as you, and the more you spend time scrolling, the more you're likely to feel less empathy towards people on the other side of the political spectrum. And with people who grew up exclusively with social media, it is even easier (than let's say us "old people" who still remember a bit how the world was before doom-scrolling).
I grew up in a very left-leaning country and my view of American politics was mostly based on Jon Stewart and left-wing newspapers. At some point in my twenties I decided to read more conservative news sites to get a better picture of the conservative mentality and realized that I had rarely if ever heard that side. Sites like The Federalist, National Review and Townhall. Not Foxnews. It opened up my eyes to many things and so it never surprised me or didn't make sense when Trump won. In my country people were shocked and couldn't comprehend his victory.

It might be the same with many young people in narrow-minded communites where only leftist media is digested and right-wingers don't express their ideas publicly. They get stuck in their bubbles and decide to just believe whatever they have been told about conservatives. Which is why Charlie Kirk must have been a shock to the system for many young people. Suddenly someone "from the other side" was actually debating their viewpoints and sharing their own worldview.

Just my theory.
 
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Doesn't the woman literally say "dying of liver failure on a ventilator in the ICU? 🤔

Yeah, he does. Missed that part, but, again, not sure why calling an executive director of Frontline Nurses at 4AM just to vent about tylenol accomplishes.

Not passing the smell test.
 
Acetaminophen has been given safely for 150 years.
Acetaminophen is TOXIC AS SHIT, so only relatively low doses are even remotely "safe". Only FOUR GRAMS, basically 10x a single 350mg pill, can cause liver failure.

If it were to he introduced today, there is NO WAY ON EARTH it would be accepted with its incredibly low lethal dose compared to its very mild effects.

For comparison, aspirin has also been around for 130 years and it wasn't until SEVENTY YEARS LATER that its horrible side effect, Reyes Syndrome, was adequately described.

So it is entirely possible that widely accepted and used medications can have ghastly side effects not appreciated until significantly later.
 
The timing of the poll probably has something to do with it. But honestly what is wrong with young conservatives, otherwise? Doesn't the second amendment partially exist to allow resistance to the government? Wasn't the US founded by political violence? Us old bastards just want piece and quiet and status quo but young kids shouldn't be capitulating so easy.
Not that I think violence is justified in the current landscape - but to think it is never justified? That the people in the US should have accepted England's rule or only resisted peacefully?
Not sure where you were going but I'd respond that for decades now, conservative movements that "act out" got a disproportionately harsh smack down, which trained conservatives that if they want to advance their agenda, they gotta do it in peaceful ways. Plus overall the "peaceful ways" has worked for them so mo need to take to the streets.

Progressive causes, on the other hand, have met a lot more resistance in getting stuff done legislative (mainly because I think they have far less support for specific issues) and when they "act out" and take to the streets in violent fashion, nothing serious happens. Pair this lack of negative consequences with the media loading them on against "fascist hitlers in office" and you can see why they are so casual with violence.

Young people almost always go to violence easier than older folks, they have fewer obligations, less to risk, and are basically unable to see past their own feet.
 
Acetaminophen is TOXIC AS SHIT, so only relatively low doses are even remotely "safe". Only FOUR GRAMS, basically 10x a single 350mg pill, can cause liver failure.

If it were to he introduced today, there is NO WAY ON EARTH it would be accepted with its incredibly low lethal dose compared to its very mild effects.

For comparison, aspirin has also been around for 130 years and it wasn't until SEVENTY YEARS LATER that its horrible side effect, Reyes Syndrome, was adequately described.

So it is entirely possible that widely accepted and used medications can have ghastly side effects not appreciated until significantly later.
Which would also be true for Ivermectin, even more true given it's shorter time available. It has known pathways for neural toxicity.
 
Which would also be true for Ivermectin, even more true given it's shorter time available. It has known pathways for neural toxicity.
Most drugs have side effects, and bad ones at that. They are all on a risk:reward balance beam.

The point isnt that Tylenol should be pulled, bit whether or not we can accept a new risk for it based on the messenger.
 
Most drugs have side effects, and bad ones at that. They are all on a risk:reward balance beam.

The point isnt that Tylenol should be pulled, bit whether or not we can accept a new risk for it based on the messenger.
If the messenger is someone who gets paid $150k to say it has a new risk then I am going to struggle to accept that message.
 
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