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Massive earthquake hits Sumatra

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Dan

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It's a bit uncomfortable watching some people waiting on these beaches for the first wave and even having fun in it when you're aware of everything else that was happening and what would be coming.
 

Socreges

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Stele said:
The one in China (Tangshan, Hebei) was hushed up by the Communist government. And it's not 3 million -- it's around 300,000.
No, it was 3 million. Unless the Globe & Mail lies?? There were also a couple more around 1 million. All earthquakes, IIRC.

I'd find the article, but my parents took the paper with them when they left yesterday.

Tommie Hu$tle said:
They are also talking about the damage to buildings and industry and all of that.
Dude, when 3,000,000 people die: 1) buildings do not compare, 2) you KNOW there must have been a lot of damage to the cities
 
Socreges said:
Dude, when 3,000,000 people die: 1) buildings do not compare, 2) you KNOW there must have been a lot of damage to the cities


I understand what you are saying from a humanity point of view but, they do compare when someone has to rebuild a building so people can live in it.
 

Socreges

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Tommie Hu$tle said:
I understand what you are saying from a humanity point of view but, they do compare when someone has to rebuild a building so people can live in it.
That's why I also said: "2) you KNOW there must have been a lot of damage to the cities"

You don't have 3 million people die without terrific damage to many buildings.
 

DSN2K

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holy shit :O
 

Socreges

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Stele said:
Really difficult to have 3 million deaths when Tangshan's population then was only 1.
Cheeky, but presumptuous. I said China, not specifically Tangshan. There have been several devastating earthquakes in China in the last century.
 

ManaByte

Gold Member
TheQueen'sOwn said:
She ran towards the wave o.0.

I'm sorry, this was a horrible disaster, but anyone who is dumb enough to run into a wave that big especially when everyone else is running for their life...

I mean, WTF was she thinking? "Surfs up"? "Oh no, I left my iPod in the water, I better get it"?
 

Pachinko

Member
I think becuase she's actually running into the water for whatever reason, I'm pretty sure the holy shit is at the size of the wave, not the girl.
 

Socreges

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ManaByte said:
I'm sorry, this was a horrible disaster, but anyone who is dumb enough to run into a wave that big especially when everyone else is running for their life...

I mean, WTF was she thinking? "Surfs up"? "Oh no, I left my iPod in the water, I better get it"?
Er, perhaps: "My children are out there!!"
 

ManaByte

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Socreges said:
Er, perhaps: "My children are out there!!"

Looking at the image, as small as it is, it doesn't look like there is anyone in the water where the people are running.

It really sucks for the people on those boats. They had no time to get away.
 

Stele

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Socreges said:
Cheeky, but presumptuous. I said China, not specifically Tangshan. There have been several devastating earthquakes in China in the last century.
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So...you lump all earthquakes that transpired in China in the last century as one earthquake?
 

ManaByte

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Here's a big WTF:

http://www.theadvertiser.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5936,11816699%5E911,00.html

IT seems almost impossible.

Just days after the tidal wave disaster, one of the devastated beaches was returning to normal yesterday.

On Sunday, Patong Beach was hit by a wall of water that swept into Phuket, claiming at least 120 lives.

Parasols, chairs, and other beach paraphernalia were swept to the top of the tree-lined beach, dragging helpless holidaymakers with them. It was at this beach that six-month-old Melina Heppell, of Perth, disappeared from her father's arms when the huge wave struck.

For some tourists yesterday, however, the tragedy was becoming a memory, albeit a vivid one, as they made the most of the weather and topped up their tans.

Many in bathers and bikinis, some lounged on sunbeds and others took a dip in the water that had claimed so many lives a few days earlier.

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Socreges

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ManaByte said:
Looking at the image, as small as it is, it doesn't look like there is anyone in the water where the people are running.
What? The order, relative to what came first/second/last, would have to be:

1. furthest point from wave
2. middle point from wave
3. closest point from wave

I see six people during 3. that she's running towards. Or am I wrong?

Stele said:
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So...you lump all earthquakes that transpired in China in the last century as one earthquake?
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Uh, no. You picked out one particular instance (Tangshan) as what was allegedly 3 million. What I'm saying is that there have been several earthquakes in China in the past century, so isn't it very possible that I'm talking about a different one...

-edit- I gotta go out. So if this continues, any replies will be some time from now
 
ManaByte said:
I'm sorry, this was a horrible disaster, but anyone who is dumb enough to run into a wave that big especially when everyone else is running for their life...

I mean, WTF was she thinking? "Surfs up"? "Oh no, I left my iPod in the water, I better get it"?

I was watching Sky News today for a while and one of the tips they gave for surviving the wave was to run towards it. Eveyones natural reaction would obviously be to run like mad in the other direction but the opposite is true, your best chance of survival is to take it head on. Perhaps you've less chance of being hit by debris.
 

miyuru

Member
Hey what's up guys. I'm actually in Sri Lanka right now. Pretty boring trip to be honest, you know the whole family vacation type thing, except this time you don't know your relatives, and you can't speak to them iether because of the language barrier. Oh yeah then my cousin broke my glasses so I'm blind until I get a new pair in about 6 days.

Fucking...

Anyway this flood is all over the news. No worries I'm in the middle of the island, but it's pretty crazy. They say Sri Lanka was the hardest hit from the tsunamis, right? Something like that. I thought this was just a flood or something, never realised it was this major internationally (can't understsnd the news here either haha).

Anyway I guess I'll browse the boards now that miraculously I have internet access here, though only at 19.2kbps :p.

BTW, please donate to any relief fund, these people need your help badly.
 

Chittagong

Gold Member
My boss just sent an SMS message and told my team to get our asses over to Red Cross instead of being in the office. I'll be there in an hour packing aid stuff to Asia.

For the fifth day in a row, all the biggest newspapers have the same cover feature and only one news topic in the foreign news section - never happened before. All our local news show is the disaster.
 

gofreak

GAF's Bob Woodward
Someone posted similar images to these earlier, but these show more of the area:

Banda Acheh, Sumatra, Indonesia. Before:

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After (taken on Tuesday, two days after the Tsunamis hit):

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There are no words for that..

edit - also, about the woman who is running toward the tsunamis, apparently she was running to her family out in the water:

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It's not known if they survived :(
 

gofreak

GAF's Bob Woodward
Just heard on Sky News of allegations that the Sri Lanka government is somewhat ignoring the plight of those affected by this in Northern Sri Lanka, leaving the people there to pretty much fend for themselves. The Tamil Tigers guerrila group are mostly based in Northern Sri Lanka, and apparently that's why..

:(
 

Chittagong

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Just came back from the Red Cross. We were sorting the cash brought in from the streets of Helsinki, and I have to say that I'm glad to see the degree of help - some people had put in 8 x 50 euro bills, a total of 400 eur on the street, very good!

To really understand the magnitude of this catastrophy to Scandinavia, think of WTC. In absolute numbers, the likelyhood is that more Swedish people died because of the Tsunami in Asia than the amount of Americans that died in the WTC. And there is only around 8 million people in Sweden.
 

gofreak

GAF's Bob Woodward
Good grief...

Asides from everything else, one wonders how on earth the photographers got such pictures (particularly the first one).
 

Matrix

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Holy **** @ those pics...:( :( :(
 

yoshifumi

Banned
holy crap, every time i look at a number of people killed by the tsunamis, the number seems to have doubled since the last time. this is insane.
 

LakeEarth

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Project Midway said:
wow@pics.... :(

"Tsunami... tsunami... came washing over me". Damn, just last week I was listening to it. Kinda ironic. Or not. :(
I know what you mean. Not one week ago I was watching some History Channel thing on a Tsunami that hit some island in the 60's. Weird eh.
 

LakeEarth

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NetMapel said:
Why aren't those people running away from the wave until it's right beside them... ?
They didn't know what was coming to them. "Wow that's a big wave!" Then wham.

In the woman running towards the waves thing, you can really see how much the water receeded. I can't believe no one knew that was a bad bad sign.
 

gofreak

GAF's Bob Woodward
When I was looking at the video, to be honest, before the waves hit the land they didn't look that big to me. Bigger than normal, but if I had actually been there I don't know if I would have run either. Looking at the video I was kind of expecting the wave to crash down and then pull back, perhaps coming a little further in than normal, but not at all in the way that it turned out. I think most people expected the same i.e. their visual perception of the waves before they hit land vastly underestimated them. I think it's probably hard to guage the size of waves when they're out at see, not to mention the power actually pushing them in. In so many of the vids you see the wave coming and coming, and then the people with the camera only start moving when the wave is right in front of them.
 

TheOMan

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While the amount of devastation and loss of life is heart crushing...and while I believe that no life is better or worse than another life in a horrible disaster like this, knowing a person that has been affected by this definitely makes it hit even harder than it has.

I just found out that a friend of mine is missing in Thailand and is presumed dead. I can't imagine what his family must be going through. I really hope that he somehow survived and just can't get to a phone or post office. Unbelievable.
 

seanoff

Member
'm sorry, this was a horrible disaster, but anyone who is dumb enough to run into a wave that big especially when everyone else is running for their life...

Swedish mother defies the odds
January 3, 2005

SHE ran fearlessly into the tsunami in a desperate bid to save her three sons - and miraculously survived.

For a week the world thought Karin Svaerd and her children were dead, among more than 127,600 victims of the Asian tidal wave disaster.

The images of a panic-stricken Mrs Svaerd were published around the world, including The Daily Telegraph on Friday, showing the panic-stricken mother running into the surf as tourists around her fled in fear of their lives.

"I had to try and save my children, nothing was going to stop me," Mrs Svaerd, 37, said yesterday.

In a remarkable story of survival, the Swedish policewoman yesterday told of the worst hour of her life - and how her entire family somehow made it through the waves of destruction unscathed.

With the final death toll still unknown, amazing stories of survival are emerging in the wake of the 10m waves that devastated South-East Asia.

Mrs Svaerd was at Thailand's Hat Rai Lay beach, near Krabi, with her husband and their sons Anton, 14, Filip, 11 and Viktor, 10, who could not see the first wave as it thundered ashore.

"I was yelling at them to run, run but they couldn't hear me," Mrs Svaerd said.

When they did not hear her, she started running towards them, screaming: "Oh my God, not my children."

Mrs Svaerd was barely 20m from the boys when the family was engulfed by the tsunami and separated.

She clung to a palm tree after the wave swept her to land but lost her grip and was washed to higher ground alone.

"I could see a white wall of water coming towards the beach from the horizon getting bigger and bigger," she said. "People were starting to shout and scream, 'Get off the beach, get off the beach'.

"I started to shout, 'Run in, run in' at my boys. They'd been snorkelling and playing in the surf.

"But because of the noise on the beach and because they were 200m away they couldn't hear me.

"They didn't know the wave was coming towards them, so I started running into the sea.

"I could hear people shouting at me, 'Get off the beach', as I ran past them but I ignored them.

"Terror was coming up inside me. I could feel it.

"But I was so focused I just started running to my family. My husband Lars started running towards them too. I was shouting to Lars, 'Take the children away'.

"I could see the fear in the boys' faces. They started to move to the beach but the ground was heavy and they were not doing so well.

"I was running towards them. I could see this white wall coming to me and it was coming faster.

"I did not care. I was looking at my children. I wanted to hold them and care for them. I can remember the white foam, how the surf took them up and they disappeared.

"Maybe a second or two later the wave hit me and took me up. I thought I was going to die.

"The strength of the wave was so strong, there was no way I could hold on."

When she washed up on higher ground she was confronted by parents facing the same fears as hers - looking for their lost families.

"I thought my family were dead," Mrs Svaerd said.

"My life was over as far as I could see it. My children were taken away from me.

"It was 10 minutes - the worst 10 minutes in my life - before I found my family together on the higher ground away from the water.

"The boys were with Lars and [their uncle] Per.

"They were all holding each other looking very frightened and confused.

"I rushed to them and yelled, 'Thank God you are alive'. We hugged each other. All around us people were shouting for their families and I could feel their fear."

The family returned to Sweden on Thursday.

The Daily Telegraph
 
That family is from my town. They were in the local paper today, as well as on national television. Apparently everyone in their travel group survived.
 

Socreges

Banned
I got an e-mail from my friend who was in Sri Lanka. Apparently he only received minor injuries - from out-running a wave. Fucking crazy. His family is all right, too, despite the fact that he was staying in a town where ~4000 died. Amazing.
 

miyuru

Member
gofreak said:
Just heard on Sky News of allegations that the Sri Lanka government is somewhat ignoring the plight of those affected by this in Northern Sri Lanka, leaving the people there to pretty much fend for themselves. The Tamil Tigers guerrila group are mostly based in Northern Sri Lanka, and apparently that's why..

:(

I'm so sick of all the fighting with Sri Lanka...

Here's a funny fact though - lions and tigers aren't even in Sri Lanka, though we do have the two groups fighting :lol
 

MIMIC

Banned
One of my friends isn't back from Indonesia, yet. :( (winter classes began today).

I hear that he's fine, but I haven't had any first-hand verification of his safety.
 
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