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Mat Piscatella: PS5 Pro Has Fallen Behind PS4 Pro Launch Aligned in the US
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bender
What time is it?
I played the Space Marine trial on PS5: Peasant Edition. Really nice looking game...super boring though.
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AGRacing
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I own one. Wouldn’t even be here if not for GTA6.
PSSR needs a system level upgrade override. Should have had it from day 1 since it was half baked to begin with. Tentpole feature. Afterthought implementation.
They should have had 4 or 5 flagship Pro games really pushing the RT for launch. Sony lately just gives the impression they’re firing out hardware to devs to just “do whatever” and hope for the best. Shitty PSSR? Who cares! Passes QA. Half assed Pro patch? Who cares / Pass QA.
More on that lack of direction…. some of the devs have royally screwed up the description of modes. I jumped back into a Demons Souls cloud save and “Pro” mode wasn’t even turned on. They clearly wanted to push the idea of one pro mode trying to give you the best of the usual 2 options. Tentpole feature. Afterthought implementation. Again.
Get someone with a hint of marketing talent into the process sooner. First impressions are important and in the case of both VR2 and the Pro Sony just seems to let the chips fall and hope it all works out them. On premium priced hardware it’s clearly the wrong strategy .
There were some cases at launch where some games got a patch out that looked or performed worse. How the hell does that happen?
The hardware itself fine. Price a little too high. Software and marketing execution…. C-
PSSR needs a system level upgrade override. Should have had it from day 1 since it was half baked to begin with. Tentpole feature. Afterthought implementation.
They should have had 4 or 5 flagship Pro games really pushing the RT for launch. Sony lately just gives the impression they’re firing out hardware to devs to just “do whatever” and hope for the best. Shitty PSSR? Who cares! Passes QA. Half assed Pro patch? Who cares / Pass QA.
More on that lack of direction…. some of the devs have royally screwed up the description of modes. I jumped back into a Demons Souls cloud save and “Pro” mode wasn’t even turned on. They clearly wanted to push the idea of one pro mode trying to give you the best of the usual 2 options. Tentpole feature. Afterthought implementation. Again.
Get someone with a hint of marketing talent into the process sooner. First impressions are important and in the case of both VR2 and the Pro Sony just seems to let the chips fall and hope it all works out them. On premium priced hardware it’s clearly the wrong strategy .
There were some cases at launch where some games got a patch out that looked or performed worse. How the hell does that happen?
The hardware itself fine. Price a little too high. Software and marketing execution…. C-
Topher
Identifies as young
Eh....it was a blurry mess when I played it PS5.
Boss Mog
Member
Don't forget that it won't have an OLED screen at launch either. They're gonna wait a few years and then charge $450 for it.Don't worry the switch 2 will be 400 dollars with an 8nm chip in it and people won't be making a peep about it being overpriced even thought the hardware sucks.
GigaBowser
The bear of bad news
ps5 way beeehind buuuuut now its more popular in china so they are the same as PS4
Gen.Grievous
Member
Afterthought implementation? Do you have any idea how upscaling like PSSR even works?
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Clintizzle
Lord of Edge.
Well shit. Im going to lose soo much sleep after reading this.
Lord Malachite
Member
Nothing unexpexted. The PS4 Pro was a more mass-market product, launching at the same price the vanilla PS4 had three years prior while the regular model fell in price to only $299.99. But it was still ultimately servicing only a niche. The large majority of gamers still elected to either stay with their OG PS4 or to just get the standard model when coming in, saving the $100 and putting it towards wanted games or accessories.
The PS5 Pro, with its much heftier price tag, is not even designed as a mass-market product, and certainly will never be treated as one by consumers. The $699.99 price point is just beyond where the mainstream consumer is at this juncture. And then you have to add at least another $79.99 for the disc drive if you want the option to play any physical PS4 or PS5 games and other optical media. Assuming, of course, you can find one for MSRP. Good luck.
As has been said before, the PS5 Pro is only relevant for professional gamers and streamers, videophiles, and people whose income and FOMO have the magical overlap to prompt a purchase. On the proverbial Venn diagram, there just isn't a large market for it, and Sony knows this. The system exists because given Xbox's all but complete hardware collapse, the high end console market has been completely ceded to PlayStation. There aren't a lot of gamers who want a machine like the PS5 Pro, but generally speaking, those that do have plenty of cash to spend. Getting them to buy a digital only console means Sony can potentially make more income on software. And at the very least, they can sell an add-on to those who want to preserve the physical option.
The PS5 Pro is also an attractive option for those who want a high end gaming platform but can't afford to buy a high end gaming PC. The PS5 Pro will easily give a good four years of being the most powerful console until the inevitable arrival of the PS6. Given the absurd pricing of video cards currently, the PS5 Pro is certainly a viable option if you want to be future proofed for awhile and don't have the thousands to shell out for the latest cards and a beefy PC to make use of them.
For most of the market, there's the regular PS5 and sales of it don't seem to be slowing much at all. We may be about 75 million PS5s in currently, but it still feels like the generaton is only really starting.
The PS5 Pro, with its much heftier price tag, is not even designed as a mass-market product, and certainly will never be treated as one by consumers. The $699.99 price point is just beyond where the mainstream consumer is at this juncture. And then you have to add at least another $79.99 for the disc drive if you want the option to play any physical PS4 or PS5 games and other optical media. Assuming, of course, you can find one for MSRP. Good luck.
As has been said before, the PS5 Pro is only relevant for professional gamers and streamers, videophiles, and people whose income and FOMO have the magical overlap to prompt a purchase. On the proverbial Venn diagram, there just isn't a large market for it, and Sony knows this. The system exists because given Xbox's all but complete hardware collapse, the high end console market has been completely ceded to PlayStation. There aren't a lot of gamers who want a machine like the PS5 Pro, but generally speaking, those that do have plenty of cash to spend. Getting them to buy a digital only console means Sony can potentially make more income on software. And at the very least, they can sell an add-on to those who want to preserve the physical option.
The PS5 Pro is also an attractive option for those who want a high end gaming platform but can't afford to buy a high end gaming PC. The PS5 Pro will easily give a good four years of being the most powerful console until the inevitable arrival of the PS6. Given the absurd pricing of video cards currently, the PS5 Pro is certainly a viable option if you want to be future proofed for awhile and don't have the thousands to shell out for the latest cards and a beefy PC to make use of them.
For most of the market, there's the regular PS5 and sales of it don't seem to be slowing much at all. We may be about 75 million PS5s in currently, but it still feels like the generaton is only really starting.
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Seomel
Member
Pro is solid piece of hardware, albeit expensive. Also this is just us, its crazy how people are looking for any small chance to shit on it. People forget how pro esentially replaced base model also price wise. PS5 base still holds its own and Pro is just premium model
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Mr Reasonable
Completely Unreasonable
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