ronaldthump
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read the mod edit guys.
https://i.imgur.com/ymSRvHv.png
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Come on dude.
Criticising Obama for being too center, not left enough, and for being ineffective for the first term, how is that remotely the same to being a proxy Trump fan through the Patriots?
Damon is a pretty hardcore lefty.
Apparently a lot of people knew Harvey Weinstein raped Rose McGowan. He also settled a ton of lawsuits. Apparently quite a lot of people knew. Doesn't mean Damon did. It's pretty easy to see how that sort of information wouldn't make it to Damon.
But enough people knew thats for sure. No one said anything except for a few journalists who were perhaps given the story by his brother Bob Weinstein.
I wonder if this is a case where innocent people are dragged through the mud because of bad reporting and hasty reactions. And if this stigma will ever leave them. Will people pop into every Crowe and Damon movie threads shouting that they are "rape apologists" and human trash. Time will tell I guess.Bourdain should also read the OP.
I wonder if this is a case where innocent people are dragged through the mud because of bad reporting and hasty reactions. And if this stigma will ever leave them. Will people pop into every Crowe and Damon movie threads shouting that they are "rape apologists" and human trash.
I wonder if this is a case where innocent people are dragged through the mud because of bad reporting and hasty reactions. And if this stigma will ever leave them. Will people pop into every Crowe and Damon movie threads shouting that they are "rape apologists" and human trash. Time will tell I guess.
I just find it so weird people are convinced they're these great guys and couldn't possibly do anything wrong because they were in a film you liked and they support a charity. People are more complex than base assumptions on either side.
What do you think? Maybe, maybe not, can't say? Or they did cover up the heinous acts of Weinstein? I really don't think that charity work has anything to do with it.I just find it so weird people are convinced they're these great guys and couldn't possibly do anything wrong because they were in a film you liked and they support a charity. People are more complex than base assumptions on either side.
Its also telling that neither of them have said anything personally or through pr since the weinstein stuff has come to light.
What does it tell?
What does it tell?
This I think is a fair point. I mean, the internet has pretty well known that Weinstein is a creep for a while. So, it's pretty shady that Hollywood people looked the other way for a power player who could make pet-project indie movies happen. Weinstein was great at getting award noms, and people very likely looked the other way, or didn't ask questions they didn't want to know the answers to.
And I think in some regard anyone who associated with him has some stink on them as a result of that. Same thing with the Roman Polanski thing and the supposed sexual assault of child actors being fairly typical. Hollywood has lots of noise around lots of people, and it's a huge issue.
But in this case, the writer is being intentionally misleading to try and get clicks because there is a far cry from Damon and Crowe pressuring the NYT into killing a legit beat on uncovering Weinstein as the monster he was.. and then giving some on the record quotes disproving a story premise of the head of Miramax Italy.
I think she probably *wants* to think she was going to win a pulitzer 13 years ago and the hollywood system ran over her with a truck and quashed her investigation. But, given the piece she wrote today it seems like she just found smoke with no evidence and was likely no further than internet sleuths who read rumors about him and Blake Lively from a decade ago.
Confirmation bias works
Its also telling that neither of them have said anything personally or through pr since the weinstein stuff has come to light.
DAMON: My recollection was that it was about a one minute phone call. Harvey had called me and said, they're writing a story about Fabrizio, who I knew from The Talented Mr. Ripley. He has organized our premiere in Italy and so I knew him in a professional capacity and I'd had dinner at his house. Harvey said, Sharon Waxman is writing a story about Fabrizio and it's really negative. Can you just call and tell her what your experience with Fabrizio was. So I did, and that's what I said to her. It didn't even make the piece that she wrote. As I recall, her piece just said that Russell and I had called and relayed our experience with Fabrizio. That was the extent of it and so I was very surprised to see it come back. I was never conscripted to do anything. We vouch for each other, all the time, and it didn't even make her article. Whether it didn't jibe with her storyline...it was an incomplete rendering of someone that I was giving but I had perfectly professional experiences with Fabrizio and I didn't mind telling her that.
I'm sure I mentioned to her that I didn't know anything about the rest of her piece, because I didn't. And I still don't know anything about that and Fabrizio. My experience with him was all above board and that's what I told her.
DAMON: We know this stuff goes on in the world. I did five or six movies with Harvey. I never saw this. I think a lot of actors have come out and said, everybody's saying we all knew. That's not true. This type of predation happens behind closed doors, and out of public view. If there was ever an event that I was at and Harvey was doing this kind of thing and I didn't see it, then I am so deeply sorry, because I would have stopped it. And I will peel my eyes back now, father than I ever have, to look for this type of behavior. Because we know that it happens. I feel horrible for these women and it's wonderful they have this incredible courage and are standing up now.
We can all feel this change that's happening, which is necessary and overdue. Men are a huge part of that change, and we have to be vigilant and we have to help protect and call this stuff out because we have our sisters and our daughters and our mothers. This kind of stuff can't happen. This morning, I just feel absolutely sick to my stomach.
DEADLINE: Just to reiterate, Waxman didn't tell you the point of her story?
DAMON: She didn't. She called us to apologize about this thing coming out, and she claimed she was in her car with her kids when I talked to her. It was a 30 second conversation.
For the record, I would never, ever, ever try to kill a story like that. I just wouldn't do that. It's not something I would do, for anybody.
Thanks for sharing, probably will need to bookmark this for future threads about Damon's movies.Damon's response
Damon's response,
http://deadline.com/2017/10/matt-da...we-sexual-abuse-scandal-interview-1202185574/
and writer of article thread is based on responding to Damon's response,
She got her hits for her website by lying. Now openly admits she was dishonest. Yet the media wonders why people don't trust them...
you called itExactly what I thought of. Damon showed his ass years ago.
Cool.I just find it so weird people are convinced they're these great guys and couldn't possibly do anything wrong because they were in a film you liked and they support a charity. People are more complex than base assumptions on either side.
Wow at Waxman's tweet. Insane.
I'm sure he won't, but I wonder if Damon could sue.
Wow at Waxman's tweet. Insane.
I'm sure he won't, but I wonder if Damon could sue.
Didn't Affleck and Paltrow date at some point? Assuming he's being sincere, I imagine this is particularly troublesome for him having been in her life personally at one point.Affleck also put out a statement
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Jessica Chastain had jumped on The Wrap's article yesterday, too, or more accurately Vulture's own regurgitation of it focusing on Damon and Crowe's so-called killing of the story.I like Bourdain's shows, but he's also the type of person that would read a title and run with it.
It's even more shameful when you see the comments under his tweet.
https://twitter.com/Bourdain/status/917739178011561985
Well, in her defense. She is someone who is very passionate and active (she doesn't only speak) about making things better for women in the entertainment industry and otherwise. So I'm not surprised that she was vocal about that too. But yes I also agree with what you are saying.Jessica Chastain had jumped on The Wrap's article yesterday, too, or more accurately Vulture's own regurgitation of it focusing on Damon and Crowe's so-called killing of the story.
There is no doubt about there being a lot to say about men in Hollywood not stepping up, but people need to remind themselves to critically read and think before spreading stories.
Hell, I doubt that any of the many people who gleefully raged at the image of Angelina Jolie dangling money before a poor Cambodian kid's nose before snatching it away cared much when additional context revealed that it was a bog standard audition.I hope people on the first couple pages come back to read this.
Vile journalism calling out Damon and Crowe.
Oh, I know, she's crazy active about this kind of stuff, and that's great. But we all need to be careful about the ease in which misleading information can be spread. It can only taint the perceived validity of accurate reporting. The last couple years should have made that clear.Well, in her defense. She is someone who is very passionate and active (she doesn't only speak) about making things better for women in the entertainment industry and otherwise. So I'm not surprised that she was vocal about that too. But yes I also agree with what you are saying.
Kelly Carmichael former production exec of Weinstein company and Miramax is the president of production and development at Jessica Chastain's all-female Freckle Films company.
I like Bourdain's shows, but he's also the type of person that would read a title and run with it.
It's even more shameful when you see the comments under his tweet.
https://twitter.com/Bourdain/status/917739178011561985
The thread title change is unbelievably awesome.
Affleck also put out a statement