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Matt Lauer criticized over performance Clinton-Trump Forum
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The Autumn Wind
Gotta give Trump a handicap. He's new at this, after all.
BlastProcessing
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Maddow interviewed her afterwards on MSNBC. She was pissed.
The news media doesn't have a vested interest in Trump winning (why would they? they already know the guy will gleefully blacklist them at any possible chance). They absolutely do have a vested interest in making the race as close as possible, though.
Right, it wasn't a plant, Trump was just wrong and tried to correct someone who was right.
Cymbal Head
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Maddow should have hosted the forum.
Then again, Maddow should host everything.
BlastProcessing
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She should have, but Trump would have never allowed it.
The real issue is that it should have been 100% questions from the audience with the moderator only pressing for clarification. The way NBC structured this thing felt mercenary and cynical. It feels like they used the veterans as bait.
TheLaughingStock
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He should've factchecked Donald and Hillary on the spot. Way too much leeway with the truth.
http://www.factcheck.org/2016/09/factchecking-the-nbc-forum/
http://www.factcheck.org/2016/09/factchecking-the-nbc-forum/
Ever since Matt Lauer had a hand in getting rid of bae Ann Curry, he's been dead to me.
Maddow wouldn't have been able to hold back calling him scum. Which would have been great television but would have validated some of Trump's crying about the media treating him unfairly.
We need John Donvan or Louis Theroux or Terry Gross. Someone deceptively low-key with sharp BS detectors.
Maddow wouldn't have been able to hold back calling him scum. Which would have been great television but would have validated some of Trump's crying about the media treating him unfairly.
We need John Donvan or Louis Theroux or Terry Gross. Someone deceptively low-key with sharp BS detectors.
The Lamonster
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Lauer's always been a tool. I didn't even care to watch this thing and I'm not surprised how it turned out.
Please get out and vote, people.
Please get out and vote, people.
~Devil Trigger~
In favor of setting Muslim women on fire
He's guilty of what the majority of the TV "news" media is guilty of this election cycle and more
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The Autumn Wind
Factchecking is elitist.
This is the problem, though. Why should he be treated "fairly" while he's free to say the most vile shit about everyone else, including the media. It's bullshit.
Because an adept interviewer allows their subject to hang themselves with their own words. Stephen Colbert and Daily Show correspondents did it for a decade with incredible ease. You need to be quick on your feet to make the most out of those moments.
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The Autumn Wind
I get what you're saying, but I don't think calling someone out for not answering a question or outright lying is out of line. He'd probably hang himself even more.
I'm specifically referring to this Maddow moment, where she lets her emotions take over and calls a guy a parasite. It takes some enormous balls to do this, but I think it actually ended up hurting her credibility instead of his.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LaxpZyZoMA
lol I missed this post, A+
excelsiorlef
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You betchya
Don't get too excited for the OT thread. I'll be authoring that thread and it will be nothing but glorious shirtless pictures of Coop. I'll probably toss in a picture of Marsha Raddish, or whatever her name is in the first post.
I'm kidding. Probably.
Stupid sexy Cooper.
Netherscourge
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He never interrupted Ryan Lochte either.
Let the liars speak and the truth be deterred?
Let the liars speak and the truth be deterred?
Yeah, that was weird how that whole thing went down.
Man Called Aerodynamics
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It sounds like that's exactly what this was. Hound Clinton because she can take it. Lob softball questions at Trump because anything more would cause him to fall apart.
Anything to look "fair and balanced" and to portray the election as a neck-and-neck horse race between equals.
The Fourth Estate has failed us.
DontBeThatGuy
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Didn't Cooper host a town-hall for Trump once, and went very easy on him? On the other hand, I remember Cooper going hard as fuck on Hillary in one of the debates.
HeisenbergLannister
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But, but, I've seen on Facebook that Matt didn't do anything to Clinton and was a big meanie to Trump! I mean, Clinton even had an earpiece where NBC was telling her what to say!
Why is everyone working against Trump? HILLARY LIES AND LIES AND LIES. TRUMP NEVER LIES!
LEAVE TRUMP ALONE!
Why is everyone working against Trump? HILLARY LIES AND LIES AND LIES. TRUMP NEVER LIES!
LEAVE TRUMP ALONE!
RustyNails
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Indeed. Coop is good only in fits and spurts.
Lol embarrassing for lauer and NBC
But what do you expect when they got rid of real talent like Ann Curry
But what do you expect when they got rid of real talent like Ann Curry
YAS!!
Cooper worries me this cycle. That interview he had with Trump in the hallway where Coop let Trump push him around was sad.
Hooligan69
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We need to get this trending, maybe it'll fish out a response from Dump.
Also, I came here to say MOTHERFUCK MATT LAUER!!!! What a flaccid used condom you were last night! Stick with cooking demos, you fuckwit!! Ryan Lockte got the better of you, why did NBC execs think you were up to last night's task?!
Lester Holt, you better take notice!!
CopperPuppy
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Matt Lauer is and always has been a joke and a disgrace to the profession he purports to belong to.
Sadly, many major network anchors and pundits have taken it woefully easy on Trump throughout this cycle, including some who I otherwise respect, likely out of a desire not to alienate their programs from him and the heavy ratings he inevitably drags in tow. Not to mention the vested interest these networks have in misleadingly portraying the candidates as somehow equally flawed and thus closer competitors than the truth belies. The journalistic bankruptcy displayed by Lauer here and his peers over the past year has been nothing short of breathtaking. Print media, mercifully, has been better on this front.
Keep on lobbin' them softballs at Prima Donald, Lauer and your ilk. Just don't forget to intentionally mischaracterize Clinton's e-mails as the disqualifying failure that it isn't and further squander what little professional integrity remains to you.
Sadly, many major network anchors and pundits have taken it woefully easy on Trump throughout this cycle, including some who I otherwise respect, likely out of a desire not to alienate their programs from him and the heavy ratings he inevitably drags in tow. Not to mention the vested interest these networks have in misleadingly portraying the candidates as somehow equally flawed and thus closer competitors than the truth belies. The journalistic bankruptcy displayed by Lauer here and his peers over the past year has been nothing short of breathtaking. Print media, mercifully, has been better on this front.
Keep on lobbin' them softballs at Prima Donald, Lauer and your ilk. Just don't forget to intentionally mischaracterize Clinton's e-mails as the disqualifying failure that it isn't and further squander what little professional integrity remains to you.
Clockwork5
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Yes it was stupid and she is an idiot but let's not talk about that or ask her about her extremely careless handling of classified material.
Hooligan69
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I truly think that the first anchor to actually challenge Donald, calling him out, holding his feet to the fire during a full interview or debate, will be a fucking hero to all journalists, and especially the left. We're all tired of this false false equivalency bullshit! You're treating a more than qualified candidate as such and a snake oil saleman as a bothersome uncle you have to deal with twice a year at family functions. Treat them the same or GTFO!
Lord Frieza
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Outside the fact of Trump driving ratings, this post is basically nonsensical conspiracy theory and is totally tone deaf to what is actually occuring.
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The Autumn Wind
Because she hasn't been asked enough times already? What exactly are they looking for at this point?
I remain in complete denial that Chris Wallace somehow scored the job of moderating a presidential debate. We all know he's going to find reasons to followup and pick at Hillary's answers while letting Trump say anything and everything without even blinking.
sturgboski
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Dude...that's some bullshit right there. And the media isnt biased.
But like its been asked and answered a bunch. Or, more importantly, it could have been asked in a different spot. I mean, the whole purpose, as articles tearing this shitshow down have stated, was meant to have the candidates answer questions that are normally not asked with regards to Veterans, foreign affairs, etc. I mean, veterans in attendance are quoted as being highly disappointed that they couldnt ask anything during the Clinton section because Lauer wasted the whole time on the emails.
Further, if all is fair, was Trump taken to task about Pam Bondi? I am assuming no (I missed the forum and am glad I did). And, if he was, I am sure it was "let Trump say whatever he wants and dont challenge."
Chie Satonaka
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I agree.
We should ask her about it forever.
Over and over.
Perhaps a few dozen hearings, maybe then we can get to the real truth of the matter.
I'm no Hillary Clinton stan, but Jesus CHRIST we need to move past this. It's over.
karasu
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It has the potential to be true. If the media allows him to get away with blatant lies his influence will be unchecked. It's fucking scary.
IrishNinja
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never really follow these guys, just reading about Curry now
yeah man, the FBI should really investigate that already
what the fuck does this neogaf guy & his feelings on apple have to do with the topic at hand
yeah man, the FBI should really investigate that already
what the fuck does this neogaf guy & his feelings on apple have to do with the topic at hand
Haunted
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Just hypothetically, what would the feedback for someone who did a really, really shitty job look like?
The Chosen One
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If there's any upside to this, it puts the moderators who are doing the presidential debates on notice. If they're ill-prepared and don't manage the candidates well, then they're going to get the same criticism as Matt Lauer from all sides.
Monocle
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Yeah after seven investigations that turned up nothing, she should definitely be interrogated on this subject until the end of time.
TestOfTide
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Looking at CNN, it seems that this Lauer crap was the final straw: Media is done trying to make this a horserace if it means pissing off viewers with how easy they were treating trump.
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