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May 7th | UK General Election 2015 OT - Please go vote!

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hepburn3d

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ShemhazaiX said:
Because Lib Dems are losing the majority of the seats they won last time round. Mostly due to them winning them off of the youth vote then proceeding to form a coalition with the party renowned for fucking over the youth.
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When I was in uni 5 years ago I was paying £1k a year tuition fees (due to early sign up), so voting Lib Dem to keep university accessible to future students seemed like the right thing to do. You'd have to have a gun to my head now to make me vote LibDem; if I was there now paying £9K a year I'd be bitter. In fact if I could go back in time and punch past me in the face for being so Optimistic I would. My friends all warned me the Tories would get in with a LibDem vote. I feel like I owe a lot of future poor students a lot of money now
 
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The nice thing about election day is that there's no point in arguing any more. What is shall be, the brief day when you just tolerate the decisions of your countrymen.

Unless you voted Clegg in Hallam. Then you're a joyless Scrooge.
 
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Juke Joint Jezebel said:
Well, can't believe it but I flipped a coin this time. Been a pretty shit election, nobody really stood out for me, so it was a flip between the Cons and UKIP, two votes so did it twice. General vote was Cons, and local vote was UKIP.

So yeah, in the end I let luck decide who I voted for out of a list of wholly unappealing candidates. Pretty woeful.
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Not sure whats worse, that you voted for UKIP, or that you decided it with a coin toss
 
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Crab said:
The nice thing about election day is that there's no point in arguing any more. What is shall be, the brief day when you just tolerate the decisions of your countrymen.
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yep, all we can do is watch election wrestling gifs

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Roxas

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Juke Joint Jezebel said:
Well, can't believe it but I flipped a coin this time. Been a pretty shit election, nobody really stood out for me, so it was a flip between the Cons and UKIP, two votes so did it twice. General vote was Cons, and local vote was UKIP.

So yeah, in the end I let luck decide who I voted for out of a list of wholly unappealing candidates. Pretty woeful.
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jesus christ, its like having to chose which bollock to chop off.
 
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mclem

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I've noticed that Facebook, today, has a joint "I'm a voter" sharing thing going on, with a seems-quite-large-to-me-1.7M sharers thus far. Did they have that back in 2010?
 
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Sir_Crocodile

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Crab said:
The nice thing about election day is that there's no point in arguing any more. What is shall be, the brief day when you just tolerate the decisions of your countrymen.

Unless you voted Clegg in Hallam. Then you're a joyless Scrooge.
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would you prefer charlie or someone new to take over?
 
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Juke Joint Jezebel

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Roxas said:
jesus christ, its like having to chose which bollock to chop off.
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And both were incredibly gangrenous, so either way, you'd still have a fucked up scrotum!

First time I've ever done it to be honest. I usually have a pretty clear vote, but this year it was a complete crapshoot. It all just felt like lip service this year to me. Cynical I know.
 
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hepburn3d

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mclem said:
I've noticed that Facebook, today, has a joint "I'm a voter" sharing thing going on, with a seems-quite-large-to-me-1.7M sharers thus far. Did they have that back in 2010?
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Not that I remember. I like it a lot though. I wish it highlighted people in your feed who hadn't clicked it so you could badger them until they either voted or left the country :)
 
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Psychotext

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hepburn3d said:
Not that I remember. I like it a lot though. I wish it highlighted people in your feed who hadn't clicked it so you could badger them until they either voted or left the country :)
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I clicked it, but then it wanted me to enter some text or some such bollocks, so I closed it.
 
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ShemhazaiX

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hepburn3d said:
When I was in uni 5 years ago I was paying £1k a year tuition fees (due to early sign up), so voting Lib Dem to keep university accessible to future students seemed like the right thing to do. You'd have to have a gun to my head now to make me vote LibDem; if I was there now paying £9K a year I'd be bitter. In fact if I could go back in time and punch past me in the face for being so Optimistic I would. My friends all warned me the Tories would get in with a LibDem vote. I feel like I owe a lot of future poor students a lot money now
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I know exactly where you're coming from. Tories won the seat in my city thanks to the stray Lib Dem voters taking it away from Labour (3% swing though). Luckily I went to uni right before they could push through the fees changes (I think I was literally the last year to go through on £3k a year). Lib Dems can just go to hell.

Roxas said:
jesus christ, its like having to chose which bollock to chop off.
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He was given the choice of a bollock, but he decided to take the shaft off as well. :|
 
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MrRoflWaffles

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First time voting (wasn't old enough previously) here, Red Ed is the man for me.
My constituency's a solid Labour seat regardless, but I'm more than happy to ensure it stays that way.

Looking forward to my £9k/yr uni fees.
 
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micster

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Juke Joint Jezebel said:
Well, can't believe it but I flipped a coin this time. Been a pretty shit election, nobody really stood out for me, so it was a flip between the Cons and UKIP, two votes so did it twice. General vote was Cons, and local vote was UKIP.

So yeah, in the end I let luck decide who I voted for out of a list of wholly unappealing candidates. Pretty woeful.
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Wow. Now I'm even more annoyed that my postal voting form didn't come through.
 
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Stuart444

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Has anyone checked out E4 today? They have turned off everything until 7pm to get people to go vote. With puns and jokes at the bottom of the screen telling people to go vote. I laughed a little I'll admit but I doubt it has much or any impact on people going to vote. They (the people who they are aiming it at) will just switch channels instead.
 
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GRW810

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Stuart444 said:
Has anyone checked out E4 today? They have turned off everything until 7pm to get people to go vote. With puns and jokes at the bottom of the screen telling people to go vote. I laughed a little I'll admit but I doubt it has much or any impact on people going to vote. They (the people who they are aiming it at) will just switch channels instead.
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Noticed this earlier. While admirable, it seems like a strange and unnecessary business decision. Not that I particularly care about E4's finances but, I don't know, I don't get it.
 
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Voted for Labour, i want to keep my house and as i am struggling with the bedroom tax i need Labour to win - none really got me on side, but Labour is the one promising to do away with this stupid bedroom tax so I'm with them on this election (even though i don't trust them at all).

I honestly think if the Conservatives win, I'll be evicted within the year.
 
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PrivateRyan

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GRW810 said:
Noticed this earlier. While admirable, it seems like a strange and unnecessary business decision. Not that I particularly care about E4's finances but, I don't know, I don't get it.
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Because as you said, it's admirable that they're pushing the youth vote ahead of business priorities. Not something you'd expect to see often in this day and age.
 
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BlazingDarkness

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Stuart444 said:
Has anyone checked out E4 today? They have turned off everything until 7pm to get people to go vote. With puns and jokes at the bottom of the screen telling people to go vote. I laughed a little I'll admit but I doubt it has much or any impact on people going to vote. They (the people who they are aiming it at) will just switch channels instead.
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I'm noticing a bigger push to get young people to vote this time, I guess this is a part of that - E4 targets this same demographic. It is strange that they've decided to do it, but quite interesting all the same.
 
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Gradon

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I am still bitter about the Liberal Democrats in 2010. Because of that ridiculous coalition I am on the receiving end of splashing out 9k for an education. Hopefully Labour wins.
 
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Mr Git

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ShemhazaiX said:
I know exactly where you're coming from. Tories won the seat in my city thanks to the stray Lib Dem voters taking it away from Labour (3% swing though). Luckily I went to uni right before they could push through the fees changes (I think I was literally the last year to go through on £3k a year). Lib Dems can just go to hell.
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I also got in just before the fees went up. The announcement of them rising was the final kick up the arse I required to go and do a degree. The shit thing though, is that it has offset postgrad funding - at my uni they are only offering funding to those who commenced their degree after they rose in 2012. I also miss out on the newly proposed loans for postgrad coming next year as they stuck an arbitrary age limit on it. :|

Interestingly a PhD I work with was able to vote - she's from Quebec and has been living here for around 4 years. She's able to vote for both council and general election due to being in the Commonwealth, a thing I had no idea existed. Being able to vote, not the Commonwealth obviously.
 
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mocoworm

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Great article, as always, by Owen Jones

Owen Jones: if the Tories get more seats than Labour, get ready for a Very British Coup
Don't let the right tell you that if Labour come second on seats, their government would be "illegitimate".

http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/2015/05/owen-jones-if-tories-get-more-seats-labour-get-ready-very-british-coup

Our very British coup will surely unfold this way. The Tories declare victory if they have the most seats, regardless of the parliamentary arithmetic. Key supportive newspapers endorse this line and pressure is put on the broadcasters to follow suit. The Tories begin publicly reassembling their coalition with the Lib Dems within hours of the polls closing, despite knowing they have no majority in parliament, in order to cement the image that they remain the legitimate government.

In the run-up to the Queen’s Speech on 27 May – with David Cameron remaining as Prime Minister – the media campaign against the SNP will make the current onslaught look timid. Amid political uncertainty, a falling stock market and the value of the pound are used to build an atmosphere of national emergency. A handful of right-wing Labour MPs – the likes of Rochdale’s Simon Danczuk, perhaps – are wheeled out on TV to echo the line of illegitimacy, helping to construct a narrative of growing Labour turmoil. Moves to depose Miliband are encouraged. The aim will be straightforward: to make it politically impossible for Labour to form a government even though left-of-centre parties have a parliamentary majority, and to pave the way for new elections against a backdrop of right-wing hysteria.

As I say, the Tory campaign of fear or smear over Scotland could prove a success, allowing Cameron to return to No 10. If not, a very British coup will begin to unfold as soon as the polling stations close. It will have few opponents in the mainstream media. The left and the Labour movement will have to mobilise in great numbers. The health of our democracy and the future of our country will be at stake.
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Mr Git said:
I also got in just before the fees went up. The announcement of them rising was the final kick up the arse I required to go and do a degree. The shit thing though, is that it has offset postgrad funding - at my uni they are only offering funding to those who commenced their degree after they rose in 2012. I also miss out on the newly proposed loans for postgrad coming next year as they stuck an arbitrary age limit on it. :|

Interestingly a PhD I work with was able to vote - she's from Quebec and has been living here for around 4 years. She's able to vote for both council and general election due to being in the Commonwealth, a thing I had no idea existed. Being able to vote, not the Commonwealth obviously.
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Yes. I've heard this before. Can she vote in the euro elections though? As she is not a European citizen so to speak?
 
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CyclopsRock

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Teehee. Slightly amusing to hear you all talking about not voting Lib Dem because of the fees. I was the first year of Top Up fees so I paid 3x what the people the year before me paid (sounds familiar!) - that's why I'm not voting Labour :D
 
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PrivateRyan

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Had an argument at work with someone who's not voting today, because he feels that registering to vote and then not showing up to actually cast said vote would stand as a protest against the current political system.

When I explained that spoiling the ballot paper is a far more effective method of achieving this, because it will register as a protest rather than be written off as apathy, his argument is that it's too ambiguous an action to be considered a protest.

Sigh.

Am I missing something obvious here?
 
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Varion

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Crab said:
The nice thing about election day is that there's no point in arguing any more. What is shall be, the brief day when you just tolerate the decisions of your countrymen.

Unless you voted Clegg in Hallam. Then you're a joyless Scrooge.
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God, I want him to lose that seat so badly. Doubt it's actually going to happen, but nothing would bring me more satisfaction after being a student caught up in Cleggmania during the last election. Left me completely disillusioned with politics for quite a while, it was only a week ago that I changed my mind and decied to vote after all. Not saying I'd never vote for the Lib Dems ever again or anything extreme like that, but Nick just needs to get out.

PrivateRyan said:
When I explained that spoiling the ballot paper is a far more effective method of achieving this, because it will register as a protest rather than be written off as apathy, his argument is that it's too ambiguous an action to be considered a protest.
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And not voting isn't? Yeah, I'm not buying his logic.
 
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mclem

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Out of interest, what are the odds of the Lib Dems not being in some sort of power at the end of this? I've seen someone suggest that they, actually, are the party most likely to be in government in some form at the end of all this.
 
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