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May 7th | UK General Election 2015 OT - Please go vote!

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Marc

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Lol, London is the richest and most prosperous city in the country. Even some of the poorer parts are still successful comparative to some of the rest of the country, so that sort of goes against the point you're implying. If anything, based on policy benefits, London should be more Conservative.

How many rich people do you think actually live there? Yeah, there are rich parts like Kensington and guess who they voted for. Most of London is segregated societies of different ethnic groups in run down poor areas, council buildings, overcrowded and not pleasant for anyone. The city of London is not representative of London as a whole.

Yeah it is all relative, the poorer areas are richer than other parts of the UK but not really relevant to the argument as again it is segregated. They are still poor in London terms.
 

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I know, our GOP is essentially your BNP. But still, you once again put into office a rich idiot who clearly has no idea what he's doing.

Your country basically just re-elected Britain's Bush Jr.

Edit: So this really is basically Britain's version of our '04 Election: The guy in charge has done nothing but fail, but you reelected him anyway because why the hell not?

More than fail. Some crucial institutions have been deliberately sabotaged and will be all but destroyed by the end of this term.
 
A few things that have surprised me this election

- My sudden awareness of just how unbalanced the current voting system is. I'm not using this as an excuse for CONs being voted in (as they still have the popular vote), but rather blown away how SNP with less votes, can hold more seats than UKIP and Green (for example)

- My own personal belief that UKIP is a passing phase is probably wrong as they've done pretty strongly on a vote to vote basis. Clearly they have a rather strong spread of support across the UK.

- Just how 'Left' the internet is!


Well it's because the population of Scotland is far less than just London never mind the entire rest of the UK.
 

MrS

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I know, our GOP is essentially your BNP. But still, you once again put into office a rich idiot who clearly has no idea what he's doing.

Your country basically just re-elected Britain's Bush Jr.

Edit: So this really is basically Britain's version of our '04 Election: The guy in charge has done nothing but fail, but you reelected him anyway because why the hell not?
Cameron is nowhere near as incompetent as Bush jr and our alternative is much, much worse than what we've got.

You shouldn't be voting.
Not cool, cut that shit out.
 

Dougald

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You shouldn't be voting.


A lot of people are better off financially though and it's why I'm not too surprised by this result. It may be a selfish vote from a socialist point of view but it doesn't make it an illegitimate vote

Even I agreed with a few of their policies when looking at them blind, and I wouldn't vote for them unless it was a tactical vote
 

jonno394

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I know, our GOP is essentially your BNP. But still, you once again put into office a rich idiot who clearly has no idea what he's doing.

Your country basically just re-elected Britain's Bush Jr.

Edit: So this really is basically Britain's version of our '04 Election: The guy in charge has done nothing but fail, but you reelected him anyway because why the hell not?

Tbf miliband is just another oxbridge educated rich idiot.
 

twobear

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Edit: So this really is basically Britain's version of our '04 Election: The guy in charge has done nothing but fail, but you reelected him anyway because why the hell not?

not 'why the hell not'; because his party's propaganda machine has done a very good job of convincing people that he's actually done a great job.
 

nib95

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They have?

I think to many people, getting out of the recession towards any sort of positive upswing, however slow or delayed, is positive change enough.

Tbf miliband is just another oxbridge educated rich idiot.

I doubt many of them are idiots, especially if they're Oxford educated. I think the difference is that Miliband is a rich educated guy who is ultimately fighting for mostly the benefit of the poor and working classes, not so much his own kind. That's pretty commendable if you ask me.
 

Juicy Bob

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To be fair, I do genuinely believe that David Cameron genuinely believes that what he does is truly the best course of action for the country. It's a lot of the others in his party who really worry me.
 

Peru

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Makes my skin crawl to see people happy the NHS and every welfare and democratizing security obliterated, public services sold out, while this posh smirk and his friends continue to make life easier for people like him. Shocking that so many can accept that, even with a Labour that fucks up. But make no mistake they did fuck up when they had the chance to tell another story and offer a real alternative, and instead played the game on Cameron's terms, complete with immigration sceptical rubbish.
 

cyberheater

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Milliband and Balls are the reason for the defeat. A pair of twits.

But Labour only has themselves to blame for voting Ed as their leader. Everyone knew what the outcome would be at that point, he's always been a joke and not leadership material.

And yes, yes, the wrong brother.

All of that is correct. It's amazing how stupid smart people can be. David was clearly the correct choice.
 

hepburn3d

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I will say to any people happy with the result those of us who aren't will be highly emotional right now and so please take everything we say with a huge pinch of bitter salt. To those who are disappointed maybe put a /bitter tag at the end of your post so people can at least see you're thinking with hot blood right now.
 
Everyone should be voting.

Should be mandatory with explicit none of the above option.

I was saying this and my 14 year old sister replied that a lot of people are either indifferent or do not have the knowledge/care to make a decision in which case their votes aren't really representative of choice.

o_O?

The Tories got 36% of the vote, 64% didn't vote for the Tories.

Tories were the most favoured party.
 

Baleoce

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Just sat on the bus and overheard a conversation on the election: "Well.. it looks like it's between the Tories and the Conservatives".
 
The biggest injustice of this election:

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*The Irish parties vote:seat ratio is less relevant tbf

I seriously can't wrap my head around the current system, but then I'm part of the problem as I never cared to care about it before seeing the numbers today. I voted Green for what it's worth, so there could be some bias there (I guess).

If there's ever another vote on the voting system I'll be voting to change it.
 

Marc

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They'll blame the governnent and absolve themselves of blame

Like you did with PFI's I assume?



This is getting pretty concerning at this point the amount of hatred banded about by so called 'fair minded' people. Again, an echo chamber and pretty sure any tory voters must be hesitant to comment here with shit like "you shouldn't vote".
 

Upinsmoke

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A lot of people are better off financially though and it's why I'm not too surprised by this result. It may be a selfish vote from a socialist point of view but it doesn't make it an illegitimate vote

Even I agreed with a few of their policies when looking at them blind, and I wouldn't vote for them unless it was a tactical vote

It is a selfish vote. If you side with whatever party because you belive it's for the good of the country then fair enough, but just for yourself? I don't get that.
 

Randomizer

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To be fair, I do genuinely believe that David Cameron genuinely believes that what he does is truly the best course of action for the country. It's a lot of the others in his party who really worry me.

I can't help but cynically believe that all Tories are out to fill their and their friend's pockets.
 
I was saying this and my 14 year old sister replied that a lot of people are either indifferent or do not have the knowledge/care to make a decision in which case their votes aren't really representative of choice.



Tories were the most favoured party.

No question, but the majority didn't vote for them.
 

Stuart444

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But the UK is one country. And we all voted together with seats very relative to area populations. I don't know what alternative you're suggesting?

That Scotland's 5.3m population should have equal balance to England's 53m population? Come on. You've already got devolution.

We are together as a nation and SNP are the ones dividing the union, their sole purpose.

The Tories didn't get the majority of the vote in Scotland, Wales or NI. Only in England and that is what decides who gets into power. Seems pretty messed up imo.

As for the bold, they haven't started the process for that yet. We've had no words on the 'new powers' yet. We're still waiting on getting that from the new gov.
 

Chichikov

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You know, for a party so evil and villainous, a party who are going to destroy our healthcare system while stroking a white cat and laughing hysterically, a party who hate every single non-millionaire apparently, a party who [insert cliched criticism here], the Conservatives sure are seeing a lot of support from the British public.

But sure, they're outright terrible and nasty and mean and all that.
That's such a week argument.
44% of Germans voted for Hitler in 1933.
I'm obviously not comparing the Tories to the Nazis, but people have voted to terrible parties in the past and will continue to do that in the future.
 

iMax

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I will say to any people happy with the result those of us who aren't will be highly emotional right now and so please take everything we say with a huge pinch of bitter salt. To those who are disappointed maybe put a /bitter tag at the end of your post so people can at least see you're thinking with hot blood right now.

It's not a license to that sort of behaviour.
 

Oemenia

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Makes my skin crawl to see people happy the NHS and every welfare and democratizing security obliterated, public services sold out, while this posh smirk and his friends continue to make life easier for people like him. Shocking that so many can accept that, even with a Labour that fucks up. But make no mistake they did fuck up when they had the chance to tell another story and offer a real alternative, and instead played the game on Cameron's terms, complete with immigration sceptical rubbish.
You just have to accept that believing in utter bullshit is having a different opinion and should not be called out on.
 
You know, for a party so evil and villainous, a party who are going to destroy our healthcare system while stroking a white cat and laughing hysterically, a party who hate every single non-millionaire apparently, a party who [insert cliched criticism here], the Conservatives sure are seeing a lot of support from the British public.

But sure, they're outright terrible and nasty and mean and all that.


People voted for the conservatives in the '80s when they were "milk snatchers", homophobes and sending out leaflets that stated "if you want a n***** for a neighbour vote Liberal Democrat or Labour" ...the British public are quite fond of nasty people that punish others.
 

cyberheater

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Time for proportional representation.

Also. Well done Scotland for effectively voting the Tories in.
 

jonno394

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I think to many people, getting out of the recession towards any sort of positive upswing, however slow or delayed, is positive change enough.



I doubt many of them are idiots, especially if they're Oxford educated. I think the difference is that Miliband is a rich educated guy who is ultimately fighting for mostly the benefit of the poor and working classes, not so much his own kind. That's pretty commendable if you ask me.

Miliband was fighting to become PM by saying what he thought would win him the position of power and focusing on policies he thought would get him in.

At the end of the day he's just another career politician.
 

MrS

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It's not a license to that sort of behaviour.
I agree with this sentiment. People should be more respectful of our democratically elected government. The public have made their voice heard and that should be respected.
 
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