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May 7th | UK General Election 2015 OT - Please go vote!

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Milliband and Balls are the reason for the defeat. A pair of twits.

But Labour only has themselves to blame for voting Ed as their leader. Everyone knew what the outcome would be at that point, he's always been a joke and not leadership material.

And yes, yes, the wrong brother.
 
As an American, I hereby decree that you Brits can no longer stereotype us Yanks as stupid when you guys just re-elected Cameron...

The majority of people see it as a better outcome so why fault them just because they disagree with you. I hate when people do that, with no argument as well....just comes across as salty.
 
As an American, I hereby decree that you Brits can no longer stereotype us Yanks as stupid when you guys just re-elected Cameron...

Yup, we're the Anglo country where the leader of the country speaks against austerity, for a society of more than just appealing to white guys with vans, and actually expanding the welfare state.

As for the UK and Australia, sorry, we held the dunce cap for eight years. Your turn.
 

Plasma

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Ugh we're going to get the Tories for another five years, sickening.

Hope all the Conservative voters are happy when the NHS gets privatised.
 

Lucius86

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'Goes a lot further' what does that mean?

There are so many other factors - quality of public services paid for by taxes, inflation, etc.

I don't mean this as a leading question - the answer is not clear - but I just opposed the logical conclusion that less taxes=better off because it is false.

I meant cost of living.

I appreciate you engaging rather than going into hyperbole land, but alas I have to shoot of to work now.

Labour supporters - get some sleep, relax and re-evaluate over the next 5 years like everyone else will during the course of this government. If the tories fuck up, we can all just vote to kick them out then.
 

Ashes

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The majority of people see it as a better outcome so why fault them just because they disagree with you. I hate when people do that, with no argument as well....just comes across as salty.

er do the numbers actually support your stance? the majority seemed liked they wanted the tories out, no? :p
 

Ushojax

Should probably not trust the 7-11 security cameras quite so much
"Chancellor George Osborne tells the BBC he was sad to see his former Lib Dem Treasury Secretary Danny Alexander lose his seat - but says his former Lib Dem coalition colleagues paid the price for distancing themselves from the last government's successes."

Osborne is a masterful troll.

It's true though. The Lib Dems demonised the Tories whenever they could, they were not willing to defend their record to the public. They were cowardly and paid the price for that.
 

Porcile

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Labour and Lib Dems really shit the bed. I understand why Scotland voted the way they did but surely it's backfired on them slightly because they've essentially guaranteed a pro-union party an easy victory?
 

Dougald

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Will the Lib Dems ever bounce back from this? I know quite a few long time LD voters and they all either switched to green or labour. Rebuilding that solid support base will take some doing
 
Try 18 hours!

Who would replace him though? They'll let the dust settle before moving to find a successor. Given the importance of personality politics these days I hope the unions prove a little bit more....pragmatic when they though their weight in?

As an American, I hereby decree that you Brits can no longer stereotype us Yanks as stupid when you guys just re-elected Cameron...

Hey they're no were near as bad as Republicans. Or something.
 

Jezbollah

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Labour and Lib Dems really shit the bed. I understand why Scotland voted the way they did but surely it's backfired on them slightly because they've essentially guaranteed a pro-union party an easy victory?

Labour are pro-union as well - it's the contradiction with the SNP offering them a deal which the Tories played upon and worked in their strategy.
 

GRW810

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You know, for a party so evil and villainous, a party who are going to destroy our healthcare system while stroking a white cat and laughing hysterically, a party who hate every single non-millionaire apparently, a party who [insert cliched criticism here], the Conservatives sure are seeing a lot of support from the British public.

But sure, they're outright terrible and nasty and mean and all that.
 

Uzzy

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I imagine we'll be seeing a settlement on Scotland real soon now. Cameron could offer home rule perhaps, in exchange for English votes for English laws. That'd make Labour's loss of Scotland permanent.
 
Just woke up, a few thoughts:

5. The voting system is fucked, one country decides who gets into power. That just shouldn't happen.
But the UK is one country. And we all voted together with seats very relative to area populations. I don't know what alternative you're suggesting?

That Scotland's 5.3m population should have equal balance to England's 53m population? Come on. You've already got devolution.

We are together as a nation and SNP are the ones dividing the union, their sole purpose.
 

Dougald

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You know, for a party so evil and villainous, a party who are going to destroy our healthcare system while stroking a white cat and laughing hysterically, a party who hate every single non-millionaire apparently, a party who [insert cliched criticism here], the Conservatives sure are seeing a lot of support from the British public.

But sure, they're outright terrible and nasty and mean and all that.


I dislike the Tories as much as many here but the idea that they are diabolically evil whilst Labour is all sunshine and roses is quite strange, I'll agree.
 
You know, for a party so evil and villainous, a party who are going to destroy our healthcare system while stroking a white cat and laughing hysterically, a party who hate every single non-millionaire apparently, a party who [insert cliched criticism here], the Conservatives sure are seeing a lot of support from the British public.

But sure, they're outright terrible and nasty and mean and all that.

The US Republican Party wins elections all the time. Your arguments is invalid. I mean compared to the UK Conservatives, even though they've been trying hard, the GOP are actual super villians and yet, people vote for them. Largely for the same reason - fear. Fear of the other, whomever the other is the individual voter.
 

Rich!

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Not too sure on my opinion. I do disagree hugely with some of the Tory policies - and their internet censoring views are deeply concerning. On the whole though, I support more policies of the Tories than labour, and me and my family had far more benefit from the policies introduced by them than during the labour years. So that's why I had to go the way I did.

And its disgusting how anyone who shares the same opinion as myself in this thread seems to end up being attacked for it in a quite nasty way. Its a democracy. Deal with it.
 
missed this earlier

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A_Gorilla

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Hey they're no where near as bad as Republicans. Or something.

I know, our GOP is essentially your BNP. But still, you once again put into office a rich idiot who clearly has no idea what he's doing.

Your country basically just re-elected Britain's Bush Jr.

Edit: So this really is basically Britain's version of our '04 Election: The guy in charge has done nothing but fail, but you reelected him anyway because why the hell not?
 

nib95

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Ermmm that was kind of the point of this election, seen as they fucked up last.

Strangely, Lib Dems paid the highest price for mostly Tory led fuck ups. But I also don't think the fuck ups were to the extent that British people felt the need to oust them. We'll see what happens 5 years from now.
 
I imagine we'll be seeing a settlement on Scotland real soon now. Cameron could offer home rule perhaps, in exchange for English votes for English laws. That'd make Labour's loss of Scotland permanent.

Why should the SNP negotiate? They've just basically took over Scotland. With a majority Conservative government, I have no doubt that any independence polling would be shifting 'Yes' quickly, especially since I bet any Tory budget is going to take the knife to Scotland any way they can to appeal to UKIP voters.
 

justjohn

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Well done to the Tories. Usually vote labour but i voted for the the Tories this time. They have done a good job in office and deserve another term.
Also can't imagine seeing Ed milliband's face for five years. Ugh
 
Well with the Scottish mess, a majority that only will just scrape by, EU going to rear its head, this is going not to be a messy result but a messy aftermath.
 

Lashley

Why does he wear the mask!?
Well done to the Tories. Usually vote labour but i voted for the the Tories this time. They have done a good job in office and deserve another term.
Also can't imagine seeing Ed milliband's face for five years. Ugh

They have?
 

Jezbollah

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.And its disgusting how anyone who shares the same opinion as myself in this thread seems to end up being attacked for it in a quite nasty way. Its a democracy. Deal with it.

I do feel that there are a lot of passionate supporters of other parties that are in a state of shock with what has gone on over the past 12 hours - it's understandable that they are upset.

No one needs to answer to anyone or to justify anything about why they voted for their party..
 
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