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May 7th | UK General Election 2015 OT - Please go vote!

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edgefusion

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As someone who lives in Cornwall it is incredibly depressing to see such a clean sweep of blue. This is the poorest part of the UK and a place that will badly feel the Conservatives cuts, probably worse than anywhere else in the country. I'm baffled why so many chose to vote for them, utterly baffled.
 

Daemul

Member
As someone who lives in Cornwall it is incredibly depressing to see such a clean sweep of blue. This is the poorest part of the UK and a place that will badly feel the Conservatives cuts, probably worse than anywhere else in the country. I'm baffled why so many chose to vote for them, utterly baffled.

Cornwall voted for the Tories? Holy shit, I'm in tears. Surely no one would fuck themselves over like that?
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Saiyar

Unconfirmed Member
So when is the devolution settlement with Scotland meant to be decided again? I just need to know so that we can started on building that 20 foot high wall across the length of the border lol

Cameron should vote through the recommendations of the Smith commission at the same time he passes some sort of English votes bill which should come pretty soon. The SNP will begrudgingly accept it while laughing all the way back to Holyrood.
 

SmokyDave

Member
Just a consequence of FPTP. It takes a lot of energy to overcome the majorities our system has created (for any party); most of us live in places where our votes just don't matter.
Yeah, I'm one of those people. My area has been Labour forever. It will be Labour forever. I knew my vote wouldn't make a difference, but that doesn't mean I should just pout and stay at home.

I'd be happy to see FPTP replaced though, for sure.

I think the nature of this loss is what has done it.

Watch this video of a group of utter morons. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2015-32636498. The only one of those to come out of this with a shred of credibility is the woman that at least admitted she gave into the SNP fear mongering.
Yes, these selected and edited people are clearly a bit daft. That's why they were selected and edited to make you scoff at how daft they are. You'd have seen a similar group if the other team won.

This has been a victory for the rich, the mean-spirited, the perennially misinformed, and the temporarily embarrassed millionaires who, on the grounds of aspirational delusion, won't vote for a party which protects their own interests.
I can't take this any more seriously than I would if Labour won and people were declaring it a victory for benefit claiming asylum seekers.
 
here you go

Russell Brands verdict

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRUQ6aPvs58


"he thought people could influence a election, he has now realised you cant"

"the old media is still more powerful than he realised"

I like brand usually, but his whole campaign to encourage young people to not vote..... what the actual fuck?

He hates the Tories, so he figures hell use his influence to keep the Tories biggest enemies out of the voting booths.....riiiiiiight.

Worst thing is I really feel like the youth vote was non existent looking at the numbers.
 

Human_me

Member
Cornwall voted for the Tories? Holy shit, I'm in tears. Surely no one would fuck themselves over like that?
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Thats the surprising thing, Nearly everyone here was confident Lib Dems were going to win.
After all they have done a lot down here (Well, Dan Rogerson has, can't speak for the other regions.)
Theres a lot of angry confusion at the moment.
 

RedShift

Member
I'm working on an election version of the Rains of Castamere, can someone help me finish it? Warning: I can't count syllables.

Who are you, the Right Hon. Gent said,
That I should poll so low?
Only a <something something>
That's all the truth I know.

And so he spoke, and so he spoke,
That member for Doncaster.
But now the rains, weep o'er Ed Balls
With not a soul to hear.
 
I like brand usually, but his whole campaign to encourage young people to not vote..... what the actual fuck?

He hates the Tories, so he figures hell use his influence to keep the Tories biggest enemies out of the voting booths.....riiiiiiight.

Worst thing is I really feel like the youth vote was non existent looking at the numbers.

yeah exactly. It looks suspiciously like the old people turned up and the kids didn't.
 

Prine

Banned
As someone who lives in Cornwall it is incredibly depressing to see such a clean sweep of blue. This is the poorest part of the UK and a place that will badly feel the Conservatives cuts, probably worse than anywhere else in the country. I'm baffled why so many chose to vote for them, utterly baffled.

Personally, things are good for myself and my circle, whatever Cameron is doing has impacted me positively (apart from housing situation in London which no party can fix immediately), i think alot of people on GAF are not seeing this. I can say that, its tangible not a bunch of words with no effect. No other party can give me that hence my vote for Tories. Ive moved jobs twice, both in senior positions (high tax payer) in the past 5 years. Its been stable and id like this to continue.
 

Daemul

Member
Cameron should vote through the recommendations of the Smith commission at the same time he passes some sort of English votes bill which should come pretty soon. The SNP will begrudgingly accept it while laughing all the way back to Holyrood.

Good, looking forward to it.

Thats the surprising thing, Nearly everyone here was confident Lib Dems were going to win.
After all they have done a lot down here (Well, Dan Rogerson has, can't speak for the other regions.)
Theres a lot of angry confusion at the moment.

Damn, that's crazy. Something like that should just not happen.

You should check out the southern US voting demographics.

It truly does boggle the mind just how often people vote against their best interests. It's crazy stuff.
 
UKIP got 4.8 million votes though.

Kind of scary...... were frigging lucky it only translated into one seat and Farage was ousted.

On the other hand, its a tonne of people wasting votes for basically zero gain, change or influence.


But seriously though England.

This party made sure that your kids will be in a minimum of £27,000 debt...... for a university education.....

And the BENEFITS you had while raising your kids are being slowly eroded away.

And now we've given them a majority so nobody can block their cuts proposals....

I dont understand.

Why do you want this?

What are you getting in return?
 

scamander

Banned
Missed this earlier, but it does sound like a good system. With it all being one house as well, it avoids the issues the American system has.

Germany also has something like the Senate in the US, where representatives of each state are send to and can veto bills from the Bundestag. Each state has between 3 and 6 seats, depending on how large the population they represent is, that are staffed with representatives of the respective state government. It's a pretty good system, actually.
 

Heigic

Member
The more I reflect on it I think this was the best outcome. A Labour minority government would not have gone well, a Labour / SNP government would be equally as bad, as would the Conservatives relying on the DUP.

Cant do much with the Lib Dem collapse and SNP taking over Scotland as people want a stable government and that's what they voted for. Sad but it's very much a we got shit but at least it's not diarrhea situation.
 

phisheep

NeoGAF's Chief Barrister
This has been a victory for the rich, the mean-spirited, the perennially misinformed, and the temporarily embarrassed millionaires who, on the grounds of aspirational delusion, won't vote for a party which protects their own interests.

And that, folks, is why Labour lost. The utter failure to even attempt to reach - or even to understand - the vast overwhelming majority of Tory voters who, like the vast overwhelming majority of everybody else, are perfectly nice, ordinary compassionate friendly human beings.

It isn't really surprising that if you set out to demonise a third of the electorate they are unlikely to even consider voting for you.
 

Walshicus

Member
Labour / SNP would have been absolutely fine - in fact it would have pretty much been the combination that most of us here would have truly preferred to have seen.
 

AngryMoth

Member
What makes the result such a gut punch is that it came out of nowhere. If the poles had at least indicated the possibility of a Tory majority I could have mentally prepared myself a bit
 

twobear

sputum-flecked apoplexy
And that, folks, is why Labour lost. The utter failure to even attempt to reach - or even to understand - the vast overwhelming majority of Tory voters who, like the vast overwhelming majority of everybody else, are perfectly nice, ordinary compassionate friendly human beings.

That's not why Labour lost. They lost because they failed to offer a compelling alternative to the Tories. They let the Tories set the agenda for this entire term, and when it came to arguing they were more interested in percentage points than any ideological difference.
 

PJV3

Member
And that, folks, is why Labour lost. The utter failure to even attempt to reach - or even to understand - the vast overwhelming majority of Tory voters who, like the vast overwhelming majority of everybody else, are perfectly nice, ordinary compassionate friendly human beings.

It isn't really surprising that if you set out to demonise a third of the electorate they are unlikely to even consider voting for you.

I don't remember Ed saying any of that.
 

SomTervo

Member
I was really just as well not voting. And I knew that standing in the polling booth, staring at a bunch of arbitrary names/parties.

Fuck First Past The Post, fuck party politics, fuck personality politics.

I'll always vote, but Westminster provides a sick system which we need to get out of ASAP.

I'll always vote, but I will always do so while saying "there is no point in voting".

Sky of blue and sea of blue...we all live in a yellow SNPmarine

Fantastic

As someone who lives in Cornwall it is incredibly depressing to see such a clean sweep of blue. This is the poorest part of the UK and a place that will badly feel the Conservatives cuts, probably worse than anywhere else in the country. I'm baffled why so many chose to vote for them, utterly baffled.

It is utterly mind-boggling. I feel really bad for you. At least the welfare state is in some... state of repair up here in Scotland.

Snooper's charter will be reintroduced, this time without any opposition.

Wonderful news.

Who's going to be the one who to say 'if you're not a criminal you've got nothing to hide?'

Oh my fuck

Theresa May jesus christ

I forgot all about her

It's all getting worse by the minute
 

Empty

Member
What makes the result such a guy punch is that it came out of nowhere. If the poles had at least indicated the possibility of a Tory majority I could have mentally prepared myself a bit

yeah i think 'i'm going to move abroad' or 'i'm so ashamed of my country' or 'fucking murdoch manipulating greedy idiots' stuff is embarrassing sour grapes but it's really understandable in the situation. i'm still in shock.
 
The more I reflect on it I think this was the best outcome. A Labour minority government would not have gone well, a Labour / SNP government would be equally as bad, as would the Conservatives relying on the DUP.

Cant do much with the Lib Dem collapse and SNP taking over Scotland as people want a stable government and that's what they voted for. Sad but it's very much a we got shit but at least it's not diarrhea situation.

I agree.

It was definitely a case of there only being one party that seemed functional, capable, and ready to lead. I think being able to form a strong government was hugely important, and a coalition wouldn't really have been in anyone's interests.

Labour just aren't ready to be back in power. Ed was out of his depth, and I would also seriously question his ability to operate effectively in the theatre of global politics.
 

RedShift

Member
Personally, things are good for myself and my circle, whatever Cameron is doing has impacted me positively (apart from housing situation in London which no party can fix immediately), i think alot of people on GAF are not seeing this. I can say that, its tangible not a bunch of words with no effect. No other party can give me that hence my vote for Tories. Ive moved jobs twice, both in senior positions (high tax payer) in the past 5 years. Its been stable and id like this to continue.

I don't want to have a go at you but don't you think it's rather selfish to only vote based on what's best for you and not consider how it will affect the poorest and most vulnerable in society?

If people are really voting based purely on self interest I guess that explains the result, but... I don't see how you can consider yourself a good person if that's all you care about.

People will die because of he austerity policies of this government. Having to pay a little less tax isn't worth that.
 
Personally, things are good for myself and my circle, whatever Cameron is doing has impacted me positively (apart from housing situation in London which no party can fix immediately), i think alot of people on GAF are not seeing this. I can say that, its tangible not a bunch of words with no effect. No other party can give me that hence my vote for Tories. Ive moved jobs twice, both in senior positions (high tax payer) in the past 5 years. Its been stable and id like this to continue.


But based on the last 5 years you must believe part of your success is due to the suffering of millions of poor and disabled UK citizens if you're willing to continue with the same government?
 
I don't want to have a go at you but don't you think it's rather selfish to only vote based on what's best for you and not consider how it will affect the poorest and most vulnerable in society?

If people are really voting based purely on self interest I guess that explains the result, but... I don't see how you can consider yourself a good person if that's all you care about.

People will die because of he austerity policies of this government. Having to pay a little less tax isn't worth that.

At the end of the day, there is nothing wrong with looking after number one. Nobody else will.

Is it still self interest to think of what is best for your family, not just you personally?
 
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