It doesn't stop the line of attack but it does give the Tories something to come back with. Morgan's Today interview showed until they dug out the Balls interview they had absolutely nothing at all. It's still imho a potential vote winner for Labour but to compare it to Rugby for a sec, they got the Try but have smacked the conversion off the uprights.
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It doesn't stop the line of attack but it does give the Tories something to come back with. Morgan's Today interview showed until they dug out the Balls interview they had absolutely nothing at all. It's still imho a potential vote winner for Labour but to compare it to Rugby for a sec, they got the Try but have smacked the conversion off the uprights.
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I wonder what the Government would do if teachers worked to rule? What if we cut our output by 20-30% by cutting out work for which we are not paid?
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Take you to court.
This would be a good one to go for, I think. Sport and outdoor activities/facilities in general is surely a bit of a safe banker? It's a good strong policy to have and one that rings well with just about everybody if done correctly. There's not really a downside to encouraging participation sports and outdoor persuits, either from a real term or political standpoint is there?
Then again, I live in Sheffield, where our council has recently demolished one of the UK's largest dedicated athletics venues, so I'm fairly convinced the "Olympic Legacy" is dead.
Legalising safe standing at the football would almost be a vote winner for me as well. I seem to recall Milliband saying something on these lines a good while ago but can't recall seeing it as part of the more recent pre-election build up.
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What does "sports funding" really look like, though? Don't most places close down because they simply aren't used enough?
Also, Sheffield didn't win the Olympics to be fair.
Also, Sheffield didn't win the Olympics to be fair.
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Don't tell Sheffield that.
I don't think the Teacher's Unions are particularly powerful as they are splintered into 4ish groups if you count EIS although Scottish education is devolved so they don't fall under Westmister. Even though membership is relatively high the reality is that most teachers are in the same disaffected state with their unions as most workers; they are fine when they are in trouble but not much else. There is no great movement of teachers.
And work to rule would immediately crumble as teachers bent to help their students. Teaches can't get away from the fact that their actions would only hinder their pupils. Even worse if the NUT does one thing and the ATL and NUSAWT do another.
Don't know about Labour, but reintroducing standing at football is Lib Dem policy/pledge.
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I'm sure they'd find it hard to argue that we should work hours for which we are not paid.
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They'd have a go. They have more money to fight it than the unions would.
QuicheFontaine
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When I voted in Scottish council elections (2006/7??) they'd removed the booths, you just got a little shelf with a partition. No privacy.
Maybe it was to cut down on this type of thing?
CyclopsRock
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Yeah it was the same at the London Mayoral elections and council ones a while back. Just makes it more exciting imo.
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#dead
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Austerity so bad that starving ginger child is being forced to eat his own hands.
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#dead
#lol
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His sister committed seppuku to avoid that fate.
QuicheFontaine
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Clearly Dave can step in to cover if the teachers do go on strike.
CyclopsRock
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Tbh everyone has stories about dicking on their supply teachers but what we put our normal, every-day teachers through at my school was so, so much worse. We had one guy who Was a super smart guy - actually, he had an Economics degree from either Oxford or Cambridge so Crab probably knows him personally - who was just mad. His "hut" was in the playground which basically gave the students a license to make as much noise as possible. We used to play What's The Time Mr Wolf with him and inch our desks forward whenever his back was to the class (like the Angels from Dr Who) until he was just absolutely penned in. People would throw balls of paper with other pupils names on and he'd give that kid a detention when it hit his face. In one class he went to to photocopy half a text book for everyone so we had the room for about 20 minutes. We shut a kid in the closet with the (100% real) human skeleton that our school just had (and that spent most of its time being bent into compromising positions with mops and brooms) and put a lot of lockers in front of the door so he couldn't escape. When ol matey finally got back he didnt notice all the lockers had changed sides of the room and it took a good 5 minutes for him to notice the muted weeping of the boy stuck in the closet with what was, ultimately, a real dead body. When our teacher ripped away the lockers this kid just fell out weeping.
Good times. I loved school so much.
Good times. I loved school so much.
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Depends how old he is. I also won't know him if he is from Cambridge, unless he is/was a rower. I never really went in for the networking thing.
I can't actually share any terrible teacher stories because all of my teachers were really genuinely amazing. There was one who had a locked supply cupboard that we were strictly forbidden to enter. He left it slightly ajar one day, we opened the door, and there was a life-size cut out of him pasted inside it looking angry. Scared the shit out of us.
EDIT: Also what kind of a school has a real, genuine skeleton? Where were you at!?
I can't actually share any terrible teacher stories because all of my teachers were really genuinely amazing. There was one who had a locked supply cupboard that we were strictly forbidden to enter. He left it slightly ajar one day, we opened the door, and there was a life-size cut out of him pasted inside it looking angry. Scared the shit out of us.
EDIT: Also what kind of a school has a real, genuine skeleton? Where were you at!?
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Sports Funding can be anything from funding training for future Olympic Atheltes, to subsiding costs of activities in deprived areas of the community. Where I work we've been lucky to receive funding from North Tyneside council to run active programs after school to keep kids engaged and busy, basically make sure they're not fucking around on the streets. However, the thing is the programs are always aimed at u16s, so it'd be nice to see the funding extended to u21s at least.
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Oh, I was kidding. He was about 55 then, I imagine he might be retired by now.
And yeah, it was pretty diddy too, apparantly some 200 year old skeleton from India. The school was about 115 years old so he was probably some really bizarre colonial booty from way back.
When we used to disect stuff, the first thing everyone did was just chuck it at the ceiling as hard as possible. We did it with such regularity that a) the ceiling looked like an abatoir and b) there was almost scientific usefulness, so thorough was our testing. We knew what body parts were more likely to stick, which to break apart etc. Not entirely useful, but it strikes me as one of those "space-gecko-fucking" type experiments - basically just there to get in the Metro.
Oh, and obviously we played a game called "knob" which I think everyone did? One person quietly says "knob", the next person has to say it louder. As a class, you have to see how far around the room you can get before the teacher finally says something. Sometimes you'd have kids just SCREAMING it as loud as they could. It was a game that encouraged you to do it quickly, because if you waited it'd be even more out of turn. It ended up being quite a beautiful performance, like a choir doing scales.
I remember in one class we used to keep setting fire to the gas taps, too, in the chemistry lab. Why bother with bunsen burners when you can just have a jet on (controllable, sidways) fire right in front of you? Someone's blazer got set on fire and then in a year 8 class with the same teacher some kid accidentally set his arm on fire and a helicopter had to land in our playground and the teacher had to leave...
Nothing to do with teachers but we also used to play what we termed "bin ball" (it involved no ball). We'd run round the corner of the playground around the side of the combined cadet force hut (so many huts) and it had a pretty steeped roof. So what we'd do was get a bin full of crisp packets, coke cans etc and get 3 people to stand just in front of the wall under the roof, all facing away from the building. The person in the middle would grab the bin and chuck it over their head, onto the roof. You'd then have this terrifying rumble as the bin hit the roof and started to roll back down towards the three gladiators below. It was like a mixture of pachinko and russian roulette, and at least one person couldn't play football for the rest of the year due to damaging (mildly) their spine.
Actually, next to the bin ball court was this tiny patch of grass with a hole in it (that we dubbed "the grave") and we used to take turns trying to jump its length (which was pretty hard in itself) whilst everyone pummelled the person with balls - footballs, basketball, cricket balls, whatever. If someone fell in everyone would then pile on top of them.
This was at one of the best state schools in the country, btw.
And yeah, it was pretty diddy too, apparantly some 200 year old skeleton from India. The school was about 115 years old so he was probably some really bizarre colonial booty from way back.
When we used to disect stuff, the first thing everyone did was just chuck it at the ceiling as hard as possible. We did it with such regularity that a) the ceiling looked like an abatoir and b) there was almost scientific usefulness, so thorough was our testing. We knew what body parts were more likely to stick, which to break apart etc. Not entirely useful, but it strikes me as one of those "space-gecko-fucking" type experiments - basically just there to get in the Metro.
Oh, and obviously we played a game called "knob" which I think everyone did? One person quietly says "knob", the next person has to say it louder. As a class, you have to see how far around the room you can get before the teacher finally says something. Sometimes you'd have kids just SCREAMING it as loud as they could. It was a game that encouraged you to do it quickly, because if you waited it'd be even more out of turn. It ended up being quite a beautiful performance, like a choir doing scales.
I remember in one class we used to keep setting fire to the gas taps, too, in the chemistry lab. Why bother with bunsen burners when you can just have a jet on (controllable, sidways) fire right in front of you? Someone's blazer got set on fire and then in a year 8 class with the same teacher some kid accidentally set his arm on fire and a helicopter had to land in our playground and the teacher had to leave...
Nothing to do with teachers but we also used to play what we termed "bin ball" (it involved no ball). We'd run round the corner of the playground around the side of the combined cadet force hut (so many huts) and it had a pretty steeped roof. So what we'd do was get a bin full of crisp packets, coke cans etc and get 3 people to stand just in front of the wall under the roof, all facing away from the building. The person in the middle would grab the bin and chuck it over their head, onto the roof. You'd then have this terrifying rumble as the bin hit the roof and started to roll back down towards the three gladiators below. It was like a mixture of pachinko and russian roulette, and at least one person couldn't play football for the rest of the year due to damaging (mildly) their spine.
Actually, next to the bin ball court was this tiny patch of grass with a hole in it (that we dubbed "the grave") and we used to take turns trying to jump its length (which was pretty hard in itself) whilst everyone pummelled the person with balls - footballs, basketball, cricket balls, whatever. If someone fell in everyone would then pile on top of them.
This was at one of the best state schools in the country, btw.
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Um so the Green Party have decided to make a boyband music video
http://www.buzzfeed.com/jimwaterson/green-party-broadcast?bftw&utm_term=4ldqpgm#4ldqpgm
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On an amusing front though, them getting at diversity others seems to be going well:
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THIS REALLY HAPPENED. Nick Clegg took journalists to Go Ape, and only after not dying on the zip wires, were they allowed to write about it
http://www.theguardian.com/politics...m-tax-loophole#block-552563d7e4b0aca9c2ca3f41
http://www.buzzfeed.com/jimwaterson/green-party-broadcast?bftw&utm_term=4ldqpgm#4ldqpgm
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On an amusing front though, them getting at diversity others seems to be going well:
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THIS REALLY HAPPENED. Nick Clegg took journalists to Go Ape, and only after not dying on the zip wires, were they allowed to write about it
http://www.theguardian.com/politics...m-tax-loophole#block-552563d7e4b0aca9c2ca3f41
Mr. Luchador
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I'd probably have an easier time voting for a party if they stopped trying to shit on the other parties, and came out and said "This is what we'll do, and this is how we'll do it." So tired of reading news about how one party snipes another one over an interview several years ago where they said something. Or how this party failed to deliver this and that x amount of years ago.
I'd have so much respect and belief (even if blind) if a party just stood up and focused on what they were going to do for me and tell me how. I think that's why I ended up voting Lib-Dem last time, which is odd as I know feel let down by them haha
I'd have so much respect and belief (even if blind) if a party just stood up and focused on what they were going to do for me and tell me how. I think that's why I ended up voting Lib-Dem last time, which is odd as I know feel let down by them haha
Um so the Green Party have decided to make a boyband music video
http://www.buzzfeed.com/jimwaterson/green-party-broadcast?bftw&utm_term=4ldqpgm#4ldqpgm
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That was surprisingly funny and better than usual youtube level parody videos. Still voting labour though
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That story made me smile, he sounds great. Contrastingly I had a teacher who would throw (usually bastard) kids into the supply cupboard.
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Dan Sabbagh ‏@dansabbagh
THIS REALLY HAPPENED. Nick Clegg took journalists to Go Ape, and only after not dying on the zip wires, were they allowed to write about it
http://www.theguardian.com/politics...m-tax-loophole#block-552563d7e4b0aca9c2ca3f41
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That article is confusing. My first thought was, what does this have to do with the Lib Dem campaign. But then it says Clegg is taking a break from campaigning. But it looks like the 15 journalists were invited? What's going on?
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Um so the Green Party have decided to make a boyband music video
Dan Sabbagh ‏@dansabbagh
THIS REALLY HAPPENED. Nick Clegg took journalists to Go Ape, and only after not dying on the zip wires, were they allowed to write about it
http://www.theguardian.com/politics...m-tax-loophole#block-552563d7e4b0aca9c2ca3f41
Everything about this is incredible. The upcoming series of Veep has some very high standards to live up to.
JonathanEx
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I presume it's the journalists who are assigned to the Lib Dems, so are on the battle bus every day... so it's not meeting people or a speech so it's a break from campaigning in that respect, it's just a break from the norm for them all in that way.
QuicheFontaine
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"with the media struggling after him reluctantly."
The journos were swinging from the ropes too??
CyclopsRock
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I imagine Clegg being like the overenthusiastic dad at Center Parcs forcing his family into doing a wilderness ramble whilst his kids just want to go bowling in the sports cafe."with the media struggling after him reluctantly."
The journos were swinging from the ropes too??
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Talking of which, I'm hearing mutterings from a few LD people I know that Vince Cable has been in clandestine talks with higher up Labour party officials about coalition negotiations in the event Clegg loses his seat.
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*event
Also, we're all watching the Scottish debate right? I expect you all to turn up for the Welsh and Northern Ireland debates as well, gosh. That should be minimum requirement for participating in this thread.
Also, we're all watching the Scottish debate right? I expect you all to turn up for the Welsh and Northern Ireland debates as well, gosh. That should be minimum requirement for participating in this thread.
ilu all. Even kitch9
JonathanEx
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I heard it was pre-recorded so why watch it the BBC will just edit it to make the SNP look bad like they always do the unionist nazis
this is how nationalists on twitter speak right?
CyclopsRock
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There's actually a Welsh debate? Oh no, is that poor Tory guy that always goes on QT that looks like Little Finger gonna be repping the blues? He's basically a joke candidate, no?
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i thought the unionists were commies and the scotnats were nazis
makes more sense, imo
JonathanEx
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ah man I forgot my crazy twitter talk, fair point. I'll never get a column in The National.
CyclopsRock
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Only if they Annex Ireland, Iceland and SE Denmark, forming a pan-Celtic alliance of the Gaelic-speaking peoples.
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You're in luck, Cyclops! I can guarantee that there is not just one Welsh debates, not just two Welsh debates, but an entire three Welsh leaders' debates! Aren't we all excited?!
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Where on earth are the Gaelic-speakers in Iceland and south-eastern Denmark?
CyclopsRock
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It's in their hearts, in their blood - much like most Scots.
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daaaaaamn
that lady in the audience just slam-dunk'd Nicola Sturgeon and UKIP at the same time in a glorious double-whammy
EDIT: Fuck, this is absolutely brutal. Even the Scottish Greens are using this as an opportunity to attack the SNP. I feel sorry for her.
EDIT: I fucking love Patrick Harvie. He might be my favourite UK politician.
EDIT: All 6 shouting at once is something special to see.
that lady in the audience just slam-dunk'd Nicola Sturgeon and UKIP at the same time in a glorious double-whammy
EDIT: Fuck, this is absolutely brutal. Even the Scottish Greens are using this as an opportunity to attack the SNP. I feel sorry for her.
EDIT: I fucking love Patrick Harvie. He might be my favourite UK politician.
EDIT: All 6 shouting at once is something special to see.
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CON 34%, LAB 35%, LD 8%, UKIP 13%, GRN 5%
Tonight's YouGov.
Tonight's YouGov.
Margin of error... 3%? Tories most definitely down from the start of the week then - they were polling 37/36% before. Judging by how even the BBC are portraying Miliband as "defending" his non-dom plans I don't see Labour building much momentum unless they've got a real knock-out blow planned.
In other news, and what I assume will be tomorrow's big talking point,the Conservatives are committed to a four-sub solution for Trident. Not a bad move to be honest - takes the sting out of Labour's attack, puts the narrative back in Conservative control and allows them a way to attack the SNP into the bargain.
I assume the Labour response will be to accuse them of recklessly committing to extra spending when they already have cuts to pay for, but it'll be interesting to see how that one plays out. One thing I wasn't aware of from the article:
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In fairness, we're one currently one of only three NATO members that actually meets that; the other two are the United States and (surprisingly) Greece.
UKIP are amazing. They'll pump extra money into killing foreigners, by taking money away from needy foreigners, thus killing two foreigners with 1 stone.
I mean, i'm aware that a lot of that money does go towards the like of India who, yes, have a space program. I just think UKIP are being severely disingenuous when they state that that's their actual motivation.
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