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May Wrasslin' |OT| Dontaku about Legit Shook
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bean breath
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Are you saying that Roode isn't a star in his own right or WWE wouldn't let him be one? I think he could get over as a solid heel fairly quickly no matter how shitty WWE treats him. His personilty shines through too much on the mic and in the ring for the the fans not to latch on to him one way or another.
Nice, thanks. Nice too see Rock is still interested in the business as a whole. I actually enjoyed his return for the most part but I think he's restrained on the mic quite a bit not only by the writers (whatever happened to having a booker, instead of this soap opera crap?), but also by having to stay completely babyface so to his movie career.
British Monsoon
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Rock's also a Kevin Steen fan, which is bizarre. Apparently Curt Hawkins showed him a bunch of ROH tapes.
I think Rooooooooo would fit quite well in WWE, personally - but he's 36. If he were 10 years younger...hell, even 5 years younger, it'd probably make a lot of difference.
Indeed they are, my friend. We love our baked beans on toast and runner beans with a Sunday roast, but not so much the black/white beans, or beans refried Mexican-style.
I think Rooooooooo would fit quite well in WWE, personally - but he's 36. If he were 10 years younger...hell, even 5 years younger, it'd probably make a lot of difference.
A Pretty Panda said:
Indeed they are, my friend. We love our baked beans on toast and runner beans with a Sunday roast, but not so much the black/white beans, or beans refried Mexican-style.
I'm saying he's not a star. Not because of anything to do with him, but because he's a top guy in TNA, which doesn't matter. If he showed up on Raw Monday, no one would know who he was. If he were to go to WWE, he'd be just another faceless guy in the midcard who trades wins with Kofi and jobs to Orton in 5 minutes.
They get about the same amount of people watching as dying ECW did, and no one really reacted to any of the ECW guys that came in after the death of ECW/WCW until Heyman talked them up for weeks. No one knew who Rhino was, but strong booking and Paul's commentary got him over. RVD was the only ECW guy to get reactions when he came in, but he also had been on Raw and Nitro.
They get about the same amount of people watching as dying ECW did, and no one really reacted to any of the ECW guys that came in after the death of ECW/WCW until Heyman talked them up for weeks. No one knew who Rhino was, but strong booking and Paul's commentary got him over. RVD was the only ECW guy to get reactions when he came in, but he also had been on Raw and Nitro.
British Monsoon
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First match announced for PWG's June 15th show! This ain't a match for those averse to flippy-do shit and dozens of superkicks;
. The Young Bucks vs AR Fox & Samuray Del Sol - Non-Title Match.
This should be a ton of fun, guessing Fox & Samuray win to set-up a title shot down the line.
. The Young Bucks vs AR Fox & Samuray Del Sol - Non-Title Match.
This should be a ton of fun, guessing Fox & Samuray win to set-up a title shot down the line.
bean breath
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Yeah eff Donkatu, watch Don Gato instead.
I'm expecting good things from K.E.S. vs TenKoji vs CHAOS. It's got everything they need to be a solid match that could steal the show, and everyone seems to have been enjoying themselves building the match up for the magazines..
It's downright a staple of Scottish meals cooked at home. I barely recognised breakfast without baked beans for most of my youth.
Jonah Hex could have worked simply because it was a Cowboy western and I'm told Americans love cowboys, as long as they aren't historically accurate. It was just an awful movie on it's own front.
Plus it's hardly the strangest take, no worse of an idea than Road to Perdition was as a pitch.
Steel was made entirely because Shaq wants to be Superman, but DC didn't want him to be Superman, so Shaq help pay for the insult to Steel that was the movie. Real shame, because a movie about a highly intelligent weapons maker who builds a suit of armour could be a hit with movie-goers I bet.
As for the Flash? Well, let's watch an episode. http://youtu.be/_Hq2jtU2dVA
It's downright a staple of Scottish meals cooked at home. I barely recognised breakfast without baked beans for most of my youth.
Jonah Hex could have worked simply because it was a Cowboy western and I'm told Americans love cowboys, as long as they aren't historically accurate. It was just an awful movie on it's own front.
Plus it's hardly the strangest take, no worse of an idea than Road to Perdition was as a pitch.
Steel was made entirely because Shaq wants to be Superman, but DC didn't want him to be Superman, so Shaq help pay for the insult to Steel that was the movie. Real shame, because a movie about a highly intelligent weapons maker who builds a suit of armour could be a hit with movie-goers I bet.
As for the Flash? Well, let's watch an episode. http://youtu.be/_Hq2jtU2dVA
I realize no one would no who he his when he showed up, and I'm not saying they should throw him straight into a feud with Sheamoose or something. I just think with his ring work and mic work he could jump up to that level quickly. I'm guessing the biggest problem would be Vince and the writers not knowing what the fuck to do.
LiquidSolid
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Better to be a big fish in a small pond than risk your career on WWE's shitty gimmicks and booking. It's the same reason why I was so happy when Okada declined his WWE offer. If you go to the WWE and they treat you like shit, you can't just go straight back and slot into the same spot you left, the damage has already been done on the largest stage in the industry.
WEAK!
It's only 7PM here.
Net_Wrecker
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Steph, chill.
STEPH STAHP
PLS
STEPH STAHP
PLS
I have to weak up at 9 the next morning. I can function on 5 hours of sleep at work, but not 4.
British Monsoon
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Eurgh, Steph. She took it too far - early 2000's Steph was clearly the best;
Yeah but he's not the big fish. Hogan is again. Even then, not only is the money in WWE way better I would think it you'd want to jump the big time just to see how far you could get. There's no way the WWE didn't at least show interest in signing him, is there?
UberTag
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Naturally, you're correct but you know the way Vince and Trips operate.
Muscles turn them on.
At least she hasn't destroyed her face like countless celebrities have.
How Nakamura became the man he is now is a good story. Imagine Nakamura as the star pupil who was being nurtured into becoming the man who will continue Japan's great wrestling tradition. He almost immediately becomes the champion but was pushed into the spotlight too soon and couldn't handle the pressure. He eventually snaps and turns into the bad boy of wrestling dressing and acting like a sleazy rock star. He still has that God given ability but no longer has the drive or ambition to take over the wrestling world. Instead he just does whatever he wants and sees people challenging him as something to keep himself entertained when he's bored.
I don't think what I written is 100% accurate but it gives you an idea of why he acts the way he does.
British Monsoon
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The Dontaku stream is live! Dark match up first.
http://www.ustream.tv/njpw
Let's keep match results spoiler tagged, to save those who aren't watching live.
http://www.ustream.tv/njpw
Let's keep match results spoiler tagged, to save those who aren't watching live.
LiquidSolid
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He may not be one of the big fish right now but he's still one of TNAs main eventers.
As far as the money goes, you're seriously overestimating how much money WWE wrestlers get. Sure they'd offer more money for Roode (and they have been interested in him in the past) but it wouldn't be THAT much more and it certainly wouldn't compensate for the money he'd lose in the long term if his run bombed.
The way I look at it is that there's only so many main event slots in the WWE and they're fucking terrible at creating new stars, so you're taking a pretty big gamble signing with them if you've already got a comfortable spot somewhere else. I just don't think it's worth the risk.
But anyway, enough of this WWE shit, it's New Japan time!
LiquidSolid
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Man my stream is a bit of a mess. I've never had these kind of issues with the other iPPVs.
Devitt's new entrance is fucking awesome.
Devitt's new entrance is fucking awesome.
British Monsoon
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Haha, Devitt's Jericho jacket;
Yeah, stream's a bit choppy for me, but it seems to have sorted itself out now.
Yeah, stream's a bit choppy for me, but it seems to have sorted itself out now.
LiquidSolid
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Haha, Devitt's Jericho jacket;
Yeah, stream's a bit choppy for me, but it seems to have sorted itself out now.
Same. I guess we can blame it on the free pre-show viewers.
Also, Devitt's jacket > Jericho's jacket
LiquidSolid
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Nooooooooooo! Fuck you
!
TenKoji
British Monsoon
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That match was a mess, but at least the finish looked cool.
!
Tanaka vs Honma up next! Hoping Honma wins it.
LARIATOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
Tanaka vs Honma up next! Hoping Honma wins it.
British Monsoon
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FUCK! Tanaka just threw a damn Japanese table at Honma and his head went through it.
*edit, ouuuuch, that brainbuster from Tanaka looked sick.
! Awesome match, Honma & Tanaka just beat the piss out of each other.
*edit, ouuuuch, that brainbuster from Tanaka looked sick.
Tanaka retains after hitting the Sliding D
British Monsoon
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Intermission time, full Best of the Super Jr's XX line-up announced!
New Japan - Best of the Super Jr's XX - May 24th ~ June 9th
01. Jushin 'Thunder' Liger
02. Tiger Mask
03. Ryusuke Taguchi
04. KUSHIDA
05. Alex Shelley
06. BUSHI
07. Hiromu Takahashi
08. Rocky Romero
09. Alex Koslov
10. Jado
11. Brian Kendrick (Freelance)
12. Taichi
13. TAKA Michinoku
14. Prince Devittb
15. Kenny Omega (DDT)
16. Titan (CMLL)
17. Trent Beretta (Freelance)
18. Ricochet (Dragon Gate)
New Japan - Best of the Super Jr's XX - May 24th ~ June 9th
01. Jushin 'Thunder' Liger
02. Tiger Mask
03. Ryusuke Taguchi
04. KUSHIDA
05. Alex Shelley
06. BUSHI
07. Hiromu Takahashi
08. Rocky Romero
09. Alex Koslov
10. Jado
11. Brian Kendrick (Freelance)
12. Taichi
13. TAKA Michinoku
14. Prince Devittb
15. Kenny Omega (DDT)
16. Titan (CMLL)
17. Trent Beretta (Freelance)
18. Ricochet (Dragon Gate)
LiquidSolid
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Benoit!
Some new pics of Chyna for your guy's time.
What the fuck, lady? Noooo. Trips ruins everything.
British Monsoon
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Well, this should make Dragonzord happy;
Naito will make his return at the DOMINION iPPV on June 22nd!
Naito will make his return at the DOMINION iPPV on June 22nd!
LiquidSolid
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Great match between Goto and Shibata.
The ending was a bit anti-climactic but I have nothing against draws so long as they're not over-used.
British Monsoon
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Yeah, I'm presuming that
we'll get a rematch at the next iPPV
LiquidSolid
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British Monsoon
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Soooo awesome. REEEEEAAALLL SHOOTERS!
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Shinsuke's swagtastic entrance;
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http://i.minus.com/i5go7iakiVv2c.gif
Shinsuke's swagtastic entrance;
http://i.minus.com/iYnkWNxC2F8aH.gif
LiquidSolid
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My stream died during it
I think it's because I'm trying to stream NJPW and rugby at the same time.British Monsoon
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Took a while for Benjamin vs Nakamura to get going, but the finishing stretch (barring a couple of unfortunate botches) was good.
Main event time!!
OKADA vs SUZUKI
Main event time!!
OKADA vs SUZUKI
LiquidSolid
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I briefly looked away during the specific spot but did Nakamura slip off the ropes or did Shelton hit them?
Problem with the start of the match, I think, is that the crowd didn't buy Shelton as a legit challenger because he's been around so little. But then Nakamura and Shelton pulled them into the match anyway.
Edit: AHAHAHA! Sukuzi's entrance was great.
British Monsoon
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He slipped off, but it could have been explained away by the damage done to his knee - the worse botch came a few seconds later, looked like a misunderstanding/miscommunication between Nakamura & Shelton.
LiquidSolid
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Yeah, I saw that one. Still a really good match though.
LiquidSolid
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FFS, my stream has turned to shit and stops every few seconds. I'm waiting until the VOD version comes up.
slightconfuse
Banned
New episode o the Stone Cold show is up
British Monsoon
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Oh, harsh - it froze for me during the extended sleeper spot, but I just refreshed the page and it worked fine after that.
Great main event, all in all - I'd probably put it a bit lower than Tanahashi vs Okada, but a great match nonetheless. Suzuki really brought the pacing to the match, while Okada's selling was top notch throughout. You could criticise the fact that
Suzuki worked over the arm so much at the start, yet it had little effect on the Rainmaker at the end
Suzuki abandoned that strategy in favour of trying to choke Okada out - if he'd stuck to the arm, he might have won, or at least prevented Okada from hitting the Rainmaker
Keyser Soze
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Divas doing some chain submission wrestling, and an audience somewhat invested in the storyline of a match...
NXT is weird
NXT is weird