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[Phoenixazure]

Regarding Cesaro, could he possibly work better as a face? I feel like his wrestling skills would get over better if he was a face to the casual crowd than when he's a heel. I have no idea what his gimmick would be though. Another guess is to reform the Kings of Wrestling with Kassius and wreck face.

 

[XenoRaven]

The WWE Universe will pop for nostalgia over one of their own before they will pop for some indie guy who isn't even American.

You can't have nostalgia pops unless you create things to be nostalgic about right now. All of those feuds and stories go to people that don't need them anymore instead of people they could be building for the future. Even if Cesaro was boring (he isn't), there's no reason, with the right build, that he couldn't get big reaction from the crowd a few years from now.

completely directionless?

But still magically over somehow.

 

[Data West]

Regarding Cesaro, could he possibly work better as a face? I feel like his wrestling skills would get over better if he was a face to the casual crowd than when he's a heel. I have no idea what his gimmick would be though. Another guess is to reform the Kings of Wrestling with Kassius and wreck face.

If they made Cesaro a face he'd be the goofy foreigner 'I love dub dub e' type. No thanks.

 

[Aiii]

AJ making Nattie tap out is the female equivalent of John Cena making Kurt Angle tap out.

AJ can wrestle, AJ has a submission move that actually looks good. And fuck you, I hate you so much.

 

[jmdajr]

The amount of viewers went up each hour peaking at 10pm most likely the highest rating will be for HHH and thats why they put him last because he is a draw.

Indeed

 

[Deleted member 47027]

Real talk Natalya made AJ look capable and like a million bucks last night. Great use of it. I didn't expect it and it looked impressive. That's all.

 

[LiquidSolid]

Seriously though, Stephanie McMahon running Creative is what is making this company run itself into the ground. She is just godawful at this stuff and is not remotely good at being a counterweight to Vince's bullshit either.

I hope once Vince is gone Triple H will be head creative and Steph can do the payroll or something.

Agree with the first part, disagree with the second. There's no way of knowing Triple H would be a good booker. They should fire the 40 odd writers they currently have and just hire a booking team of 4-5 people that understand wrestling and have different points of view.

As for Cesaro, they're fucking morons. THEY are the ones giving him his material, so if he's boring, they're the ones at fault. And the reality is, if you're a good booker, you can get anyone over, you just have to book them appropriately according to their skills. Just look at the way Heyman got fucking 911 over in ECW. Or hell, compare the way Heyman booked Lance Storm in ECW (or Johnny Ace booked him in WCW) to the way he was treated in the WWE. But no, instead they book this shit as if they're all generic CAWs and no-one gets over. Up until they throw a shitty comedy gimmick on you and you spend the rest of your career in the midcard anyway.

 

[Aiii]

I can forgive people for not knowing AJ can actually wrestle because of WWE booking. It's not your fault, you've been trained into this way of thinking.

 

[LiquidSolid]

AJ making Nattie tap out is the female equivalent of John Cena making Kurt Angle tap out.

Real talk Natalya made AJ look capable and like a million bucks last night. Great use of it. I didn't expect it and it looked impressive. That's all.

You guys made me laugh and then cry.

 

[Kaladin]

As for Cesaro, they're fucking morons. THEY are the ones giving him his material, so if he's boring, they're the ones at fault

Yeah, but this is WWE, new guys are expected to rise above their bad booking and excel with whatever they're given.

 

[Deleted member 47027]

You guys made me laugh and then cry.

Hey look, Natalya putting AJ over does more for that entire scenario than Cena putting over...who did he put over? Tensai once?

 

[Data West]

What's the problem? I said she can wrestle as good as John Cena.

 

[Aiii]

What's the problem? I said she can wrestle as good as John Cena.

You are making me hate the White Ranger. And I fucking love the White Ranger.

 

[FallingEdge]

Going to watch Fast 6 tonight. Can't wait to mark out at the Doomsday Device.

 

[Striker]

I can't believe Cesaro couldn't get his rugby star and yodeling gimmicks over. The guy is clearly not cut out for this business.

Same company who kept pushing Ted Dibiase Jr., even tried pairing a valet with him to get more of a reaction. Even look at duds like Miz. I'm sure some in that company think he's boring, which in itself is very unfortunate. Shows why the show is awful nowadays.

 

[Arrowgigantic]

Cesaro probably should be face. Is he bald for real or is he just a space marine by choice?

Well, either way, it was good for Del Rio, and he was much better at heeling than Cesaro is.

 

[XenoRaven]

Cesaro probably should be face. Is he bald for real or is he just a space marine by choice?

Well, either way, it was good for Del Rio, and he was much better at heeling than Cesaro is.

Even shaved, you can see his hairline goes all the way to the back of his head.

 

[A Pretty Panda]

You really made it? GOD BLESS YOU, oh man, so great.

I think there was something else I wanted to gif from there but youtube took down the video

It was the end of a segment where Eddie and JBL were yelling at each other and Kurt was GM

 

[strobogo]

You should see pictures when he still had hair.

 

[British Monsoon]

Swiss Money Holding was the best gimmick Claudio ever had and if WWE are intent on him being a heel they should totally bring it back, especially as Del Rio's no longer an evil aristocrat;

Also, bring back his AWESOME entrance music;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSB4Ocv1Qsk

 

[Deleted member 47027]

He looks like Phil Fish, god help us

 

[DMczaf]

Finally, WWE is giving Triple H the push he deserved for so many years.

 

[Kaladin]

PISS.

 

[A Pretty Panda]

jimmy johns

 

[Data West]

fan-made.

...the real version won't have those jobbers surrounding him

 

[CrunchinJelly]

That's fan-made.

They already said The Rock is on the cover which is hilarious considering he's done wrestling.

 

[British Monsoon]

I like how that jobber Ziggler is poking his head out from behind the future WWE Heavyweight Champion.

He looks like Phil Fish, god help us

What's a Phil Fish?

 

[Net_Wrecker]

That Cesaro news makes me legit shook angry.

#I'mDoneWithThisCompany

 

[Kaladin]

That Cesaro news makes me legit shook angry.

#I'mDoneWithThisCompany

You'll be back next week.

 

[Deleted member 47027]

I like how that jobber Ziggler is poking his head out from behind the future WWE Heavyweight Champion.



What's a Phil Fish?

Maybe I'm hallucinating

 

[Perspicacity]

Diva Match = tiny mexican girl makes a Hart tap

Who the hell are you to doubt La Dandy?

Swiss Money Holding was the best gimmick Claudio ever had and if WWE are intent on him being a heel they should totally bring it back, especially as Del Rio's no longer an evil aristocrat;

Also, bring back his AWESOME entrance music;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSB4Ocv1Qsk

Best entrance music he has ever had:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwW3VbPtdlk

 

[Kaladin]

Who the hell are you to doubt La Dandy?



Best entrance music he has ever had:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwW3VbPtdlk

You're both wrong.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIW6HC5N914

 

[jmdajr]

Finally, WWE is giving Triple H the push he deserved for so many years.

Dat hard work

 

[LiquidSolid]

Yeah, but this is WWE, new guys are expected to rise above their bad booking and excel with whatever they're given.

Of course, and when guys like Daniel Bryan and CM Punk get over it's because of the booking, not because those two guys somehow managed to transcend the shit material they've been given.

Hey look, Natalya putting AJ over does more for that entire scenario than Cena putting over...who did he put over? Tensai once?

Yeah but in this scenario, AJ is the Diva divisions Cena.

Kaitlyn is Batista by the way.

 

[Professor Beef]

What's the problem? I said she can wrestle as good as John Cena.

Cena probably taught her after she was done having sex with him.

 

[Deleted member 47027]

Yeah but in this scenario, AJ is the Diva divisions Cena.

Kaitlyn is Batista by the way.

You're tearing my soul asunder!

 

[Kaladin]

Of course, and when guys like Daniel Bryan and CM Punk get over it's because of the booking, not because those two guys somehow managed to transcend the shit material they've been given.

Daniel Bryan did get over despite shit booking.

 

[British Monsoon]

Maybe I'm hallucinating

No, I kinda see it...what an ugly ass photograph.

You're both wrong.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIW6HC5N914

That's KOW specific

He was using this as his singles theme at the time;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvuogIAxmZE

 

[LiquidSolid]

Daniel Bryan did get over despite shit booking.

I know, I was being sarcastic. My point is that the higher ups in the WWE actually think their shit booking got those guys over, when in reality they got themselves over despite the shit booking.

 

[Net_Wrecker]

You'll be back next week.

#I'mDoneWIthThisCompany

Spoiler

ForThisWeek

 

[Kaladin]

I don't know why, but I always thought this was the best classic ROH theme:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=243vuaeS_FQ

 

[UberTag]

That Cesaro news makes me legit shook angry.

#I'mDoneWithThisCompany

You'll be back next week.

No doubt. Net_Wrecker is all talk and no walk.

He couldn't quit a head cold.

Milton from Office Space would quit his job before Net_Wrecker quit the WWE.

They could fire all of their wrestlers with any shred of respectable ability tomorrow and make it the "John Cena/Triple H Always Win Chocobot Hour" with divas, Mae Young, skits and comedy numbers and he would still tune in to RAW next week.

 

[British Monsoon]

I don't know why, but I always thought this was the best classic ROH theme:

Either that, or Joe's theme;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mp6qsk9bLK8

I loved Danielson's theme as well. Homicide's was awesome. I loved The Briscoes using Gimmie Back My Bullets, also.

 

[A Pretty Panda]

You are making me hate the White Ranger. And I fucking love the White Ranger.

 

[Kaladin]

Either that, or Joe's theme;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mp6qsk9bLK8

I loved Danielson's theme as well. Homicide's was awesome. I loved The Briscoes using Gimmie Back My Bullets, also.

Homicide's theme had the perfect recognizable intro that got the crowd hype and the perfect song to bang the barricades to. It's just a shame that Homicide's matches never lived up to that hype.

 

[somedevil]

Daniel Bryan did get over despite shit booking.

When Bryan won the title they actually started to book him well. They gave him alot of promo time to get over. He was featured on Smackdown quite a bit and they let him do his Yes gimmick that got him over. When he had the title till Sheamus won the title he made Smackdown great.

Now though when Ziggler won the title they didn't give him the opportunities Bryan got when he won.

Also, after he got over and lost the title he became rumpelstiltskin who can take crap and make it gold. Him and Punk doing this makes it hard on Cesaro. They expect him to take crap and make it gold like them which is a rarity. You need to good booking to get over like the shield.

 

[Professor Beef]

No doubt. Net_Wrecker is all talk and no walk.

He couldn't quit a head cold.

Milton from Office Space would quit his job before Net_Wrecker quit the WWE.

They could fire all of their wrestlers with any shred of respectable ability tomorrow and make it the "John Cena/Triple H Always Win Chocobot Hour" with divas, Mae Young, skits and comedy numbers and he would still tune in to RAW next week.

He does that Clint Eastwood avatar a disservice. He should switch to a Cena avatar, like I was planning to do before I was reminded of how good Bust a Groove is.

When Bryan won the title they actually started to book him well. They gave him alot of promo time to get over. He was featured on Smackdown quite a bit and they let him do his Yes gimmick that got him over.

Correction: Cena got the "YES" chants over.

 

[British Monsoon]

Homicide's theme had the perfect recognizable intro that got the crowd hype and the perfect song to bang the barricades to. It's just a shame that Homicide's matches never lived up to that hype.

Yeah, it was a perfect theme for "OH, SHIT!" moments - like his entrance at the CZW vs ROH Cage of Death. Also, some of his matches with Joe were pretty great. I was actually thinking the other day that if ROH had pulled the trigger on a Homicide title run earlier in his career, it really should have been sometime around '04-'05.

 

[Kaladin]

New ass gif?

New ass gif.

 

[jmdajr]

New ass gif?

New ass gif.

Cena? Where?