But don't you have to subscribe to hulu? Was it a free service back then? I'm asking because I know nothing about it.
They would have presence during the streaming boom and before the interest for wrestling hit rock bottom is what I'm saying.
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But don't you have to subscribe to hulu? Was it a free service back then? I'm asking because I know nothing about it.
They would have presence during the streaming boom and before the interest for wrestling hit rock bottom is what I'm saying.
HashtagLapsed
Member
My brother just linked me to a compilation of the pre-game lobby in Player Unknowns Battleground Australian server.
Fucking hell...
Fucking hell...
Professor Beef
Banned
Hell, it took Zack Ryder gaining millions of followers on his show before WWE considered going all-in on Youtube.
serenewarfare
Banned
Hulu prior to last year had free content that you could watch. It was an ad-supported service. It started that way prior to Hulu Plus but continued it even after Plus was launched. When NXT was Hulu-exclusive you could watch it for free.
And no, they weren't even close to the streaming boom. At the absolute best, you could argue the streaming boom (and this is streaming, not Youtube. YouTube is an outlier) really started in 2009/10. Shane wanted online ECW in 2006. No way that thing survives four years in the state they wanted it. Hell, it didn't even make it to 2010 as a standard TV show.
slightconfuse
Banned
Turning being the elite into a legit storyline is really great stuff by the Bucks.
They don't get enough to credit for storytelling
They don't get enough to credit for storytelling
serenewarfare
Banned
Another thing that bears mentioning is that when YouTube blew up in the mid-2000s, it had nothing to do with long-form content. Exactly the opposite actually. YouTube blew up because it was a way to get quick and entertaining videos out to the whole world.
Long-form video content on the internet just wasn't a thing people did. It's part of the reason TV and FIlm execs were so hesitant to invest in streaming services. No one knew if people wanted to sit in front of a computer (this was pre-streaming boxes and consoles being media devices) and watch long videos.
Long-form video content on the internet just wasn't a thing people did. It's part of the reason TV and FIlm execs were so hesitant to invest in streaming services. No one knew if people wanted to sit in front of a computer (this was pre-streaming boxes and consoles being media devices) and watch long videos.
Ah, got it.
I remember a bunch of sites streaming their own videos in 2007 while having very healthy visitors numbers. You can argue they wouldn't be able to mantain it as they wanted it but the thing is, we have no idea of what they would've wanted/expected in case they went through that route, and as for the "they couldn't make it even on tv", we go back to the the first comment on this discussion, it wouldn't have been run by the same people nor the same way.
serenewarfare
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Refer to my above point about those video sites.
They didn't succeed on the back on 30-40 minute videos or shows. They succeeded because they weren't those things. They were clips. They were rapid fire.
My point is that the closest comp we have to an "online-only" ECW is Hulu NXT and that was not something that could survive as a third brand like they wanted from ECW. It's just not. And that's with the 2012/13 public's mindset and lifestyle on streaming and watching content online, which is a far cry from the same idea in 2006.
UrbanDandy
Member
I got that reference.
SallyIsNow
Banned
WWE2K > Fire Pro and it's not even close.
Dark Ninja
Member
Ryder basically developed their whole YouTube format. Then WWE came in and killed his show about 2 or 3 episodes into them coming into YouTube full time. Straight up took his idea and killed him. How The Internet Champonship isn't a real thing in this day and age with the network is just how behind the times they always are.
UrbanDandy
Member
Wow. Now I'm mad they don't have that championship, or re-introduce the TV Championship.
Professor Beef
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Hell, his show even made Ziggler tolerable.
Aside from poaching indy and Japan wrestlers, what's Hunner done from a business perspective? Same dude who laughed up promoting GotG for his friend because he felt the movie would bomb, or let's forget the company low balling The Rock in '05 because Hunner felt he would go to Hollywood and fail. Great business -- in it for himself.
serenewarfare
Banned
Well he managed to make a touring brand out of those indy and Japan wrestlers that is more successful than the indies he took them from.
Now you could argue that's because he has the platform, but he also put those talents in a great position to succeed and built a brand around them that supports their strengths and is booked much better and more sensible than the main roster.
HashtagLapsed
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I think we will see more when the PC people they have trained from scratch start coming out.
Otherwise I really dont know what he has done. NXT is just to show investors he can run a promotion.
What guys has he built up and booked as such has become a well known star? You can only do so much on NXT. Guys like AJ and Nakamura are already made, even then they aren't as well known as they should be.
serenewarfare
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Guys like American Alpha, The Revival, Sasha, Bayley, Charlotte, and Corbin were really either nothing outside of NXT or were completely NXT products from scratch. And they were all big stars in NXT and some of them are big on the main roster.
Filth.
SallyIsNow
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British Monsoon
Member
What a feat! It's not like he had insanely vast resources at his disposal or anything, just good ol' Hunter showing them darn nickel and dime indies how to properly conduct business!
Professor Beef
Banned
Now you're getting it! Let's shake hands, friend! *extends hand*
British Monsoon
Member
Sure they can, they just need to offer them top star money, not NXT money. I wouldn't be surprised to see WWE running Japan more often tbh, but they tried to go head to head with NJPW during the G1 a few years back...it didn't go so well haha.
...get my bags.
SallyIsNow
Banned
Dearest WrassleGAF,
I bet the following owned an Ouya:
Zach
Pikmark
Menome
Sincerely,
OwensIsNow
I bet the following owned an Ouya:
Zach
Pikmark
Menome
Sincerely,
OwensIsNow
Watched the ROH PPV, first time really watching any ROH and it was interesting. Pretty bad camera work missing lots of moves. Seeing some big fat guy ref a lot of the matches is amusing but sad looking.
Kushida is great. Dalton Castle is great. I never want to see this beer city bruiser guy ever again.
Ospreay and Jay White was real good but man does Jay White have the worst look I've seen in awhile with his CAW default face and the inability to go 2 seconds without flipping his shit hair out of his face.
Punishment Martinez looks like Baron Corbin's long lost cousin. Both seem to love crappy tattoos.
Marty Scurll needs to ditch the dollar store cosplay and the silly flapping crap he does.
Tanahashi should probably rethink the brown(gold?) spot on the bottom of his pants.
Christopher Daniels entrance:
Kushida is great. Dalton Castle is great. I never want to see this beer city bruiser guy ever again.
Ospreay and Jay White was real good but man does Jay White have the worst look I've seen in awhile with his CAW default face and the inability to go 2 seconds without flipping his shit hair out of his face.
Punishment Martinez looks like Baron Corbin's long lost cousin. Both seem to love crappy tattoos.
Marty Scurll needs to ditch the dollar store cosplay and the silly flapping crap he does.
Tanahashi should probably rethink the brown(gold?) spot on the bottom of his pants.
Christopher Daniels entrance:
It was nice to see that Alexa's charisma shines through on Jericho's podcast. Her grandma sounds cool as hell. I hope Sara Amato gets a raise every time one of her NXT girls gives an interview and showers her with praise.
Bit worrying that she was talking about getting a bruise from hitting her head on the ring ropes though. You'd think someone would notice and put a stop to it but that was part of the dark days of Bill Demott I guess.
Bit worrying that she was talking about getting a bruise from hitting her head on the ring ropes though. You'd think someone would notice and put a stop to it but that was part of the dark days of Bill Demott I guess.
My only response to the idea of owning an Ouya would be the non-stop vomiting from their incredibly awful advert.
TarpitCarnivore
Member
You are so god damn wrong. I hated the man at first but the more I watched him the more I appreciated his whole schitick.
Clip of the Bullet Club moment from ROH https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGQSGmOlYvk
SallyIsNow
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Goodnight to all, but Zach.My oNlY rEspOnsE tO tHe iDEa oF oWniNg An Ouya wOulD Be tHe nOn-sToP VoMitInG FroM The3r inCreDiBlY AwFuL AdvErT.
TarpitCarnivore
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I know I can look this up, but how many wrestlers out of NXT were truly home grown talent? Sasha, Bayley, Big E......(I don't count Charolette because of her father)
Not discrediting how hard it is to make a promotion work, but I imagination it's a little easier when you're snatching up well traveled indie talent versus purely homegrown. Not to mention having Dusty and Regal there to help early on.
TarpitCarnivore
Member
Is it fair to count legacy in that case? I guess I'm trying to think purely green with no family wrestling history or indy work
FlammableD
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Balls, I'm off there to see CKY in a couple weeks :/
Why would you discredit Charlotte though? Just how many second or third generation guys, coming from a really successful family, have ended up being a complete failure in wrestling? Their first name helps them but only until a certain point.
The only way I see this happening is if Nakamura really becomes a huge success, and seeing how this main roster debut has gone so far, I don't think it's happening. But yeah I guess those fuckers would be willing to spent a couple millions just to sideline one of their top guys.
TarpitCarnivore
Member
If you see my follow up, I'm speaking to purely green talent like Sasha or Big E.
Charlotte was more green them Sasha who spent some years on the Indy scene
Is he a Persona cosplayer?
TarpitCarnivore
Member
Huh, had no idea. Ok then I guess that level of greenness or homegrown, versus guys like Steen, Generico, Strong, Roode, etc.
He switches up his ring attire every few months, except for his umbrella.
British Monsoon
Member
It's not so bad if you can get yourself a good spot near the front or on the upper level, but if it's a popular band and the place is packed out it can be a real pain.
reptilescorpio
Member
Agreed, really great storyline. Hopefully WWE take note of how they've laid it out across social media, Youtube as well as PPV events. Worked the fans over great with #JusticeForMarty.
TarpitCarnivore
Member
I disagree here, at least for WWE. It works for the Bucks & Elite because they're not on a weekly program. So relying on YouTube & social media helps to build that story for things like last nights ROH event. However, you're also putting more responsibility on your fans to seek out this supplemental content.
Look how shit it looks...
Are you a child? Who gives a shit about the graphics?
Why bring age into this? Are you a old man? Graphics matter these days, it can still be a good handling game but look like shit.