Is he done with Dental School>? Like for real.
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Is he done with Dental School>? Like for real.
TarpitCarnivore
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Why not have the Owens & Zayn feud go into the main event, why make his push end with it? Owens & Zayn could be a solid story to work with for mid-card into main event and back.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I like Steph, I just don't understand why she's a heel.
She isn't as good at it as they are pretending.
Happy Kane-aversary
YOU GUYS AND YOUR FUCKING MOMS OR whatever it was that dude said when he blew up and left forever
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Deleted member 47027
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Eh, she has a role she must play because no other heels can step it up. She's been glorious.
That metric isn't useful
TarpitCarnivore
Member
Meltz on New Day / AA
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
But we don't need heel authority figures.
I love how ratings have the magic ability to becoming meaningless when it doesn't match the agenda of someone's narrative. But when a spike in ratings happens, it's suddenly meaningful again.
While I do agree to a point that ratings aren't as meaningful as they used to be, the progressive deterioration of WWE's ratings over the last couple of years is pretty meaningful.
While I do agree to a point that ratings aren't as meaningful as they used to be, the progressive deterioration of WWE's ratings over the last couple of years is pretty meaningful.
slightconfuse
Banned
He's not wrong
Sweeney Tom
Banned
Seth and Reigns are also responsible for that
Further proof that everything went downhill after the Shield ended
Professor Beef
Banned
Maybe if The New Day started pandering to Meltzer, he'd like them more.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
They have way too many people on the roster when you think about it because the injury bug is about to vanish with Neville, Cena, Orton and Rollins all coming back in like a month.
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Deleted member 47027
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Spike in ratings isn't meaningful to me either. It's just an exposure, and serves to bring in new fans. In this day and age, there's a lot more to be concerned with that none of the pundits, Meltzer included, talks about. Questions id love to see answered:
What's the average on YouTube video views per week on all of WWE's content?
What's the most popular video this week across WWE channels?
What are the share metrics?
How long do people stay within WWE's YouTube channel? How often do they stay, and for how long?
When do people tune out of popular videos? There are metrics in YouTube that shows when people drop off on a video. Show us.
These are are far more meaningful to me, yet nobody reports it. I think I'll ask Meltzer this as well, because I'd love more coverage.
ShadowSwordmaster
Banned
It's that what the Young Bucks are doing?
Sweeney Tom
Banned
Bray too
slightconfuse
Banned
Rmenebe that random raw whenre the New Day best all the babyfaces up. And ppl thought they would turn into a top heel faction
Then the next week it was back to comedy
Then the next week it was back to comedy
Nocturnowl
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I miss SoulPlaya
#May19Memories
Actually Net sprung that line for the first time back in 2012, what an enduring legacy.
#May19Memories
Actually Net sprung that line for the first time back in 2012, what an enduring legacy.
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Deleted member 47027
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To the tv show. But not to the ecosystem. Even if they're not watching tv, they can be buying merch.
Bluekaveli
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Listening to Dave, he said had Shawn not been injured, Austin would've feuded with DX. No Vince McMahon. What a twist in history.
Sweeney Tom
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If anything it harms the product. The end of every match that matters gets posted on the official Youtube account, so do some major backstage segments, and even actual decent promos that aren't aired on TV. I'd wager a decent amount of the views of that stuff are from people who know it shows up there and don't even bother with seeing it on TV. Why spend 3 hours on TV when you can spend a few minutes on the Internet?
Professor Beef
Banned
Maybe the new viewers are strictly watching clips on Hulu/Youtube. It's not like they can watch it live on the Network. Hard to tell either way.
Good lord
Based off of a three minute viewing on YT? I don't buy into this scenario. Merch sales go to the hardcore crowd, not the casual viewer.
Also, how does it look for (potential) advertisers? They are not advertising on YT quick clips, they advertise on the actual programming. 10 million YT subscribers won't sell them a single bottle of Mountain Dew.
blackaroni
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They make money off of those YouTube clips.
Everything cool now?
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Deleted member 47027
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Personal experience (I know, means very little) - I have friends into wrestling that don't watch Raw, but buy shirts, mainly. Grown ass people like Zach. Even myself. I rarely watch Raw.
To the point made earlier about it being posted everywhere as soon as it's over, that also keeps people from watching. Hell, I even STOPPED listening to Review-A-Raw because they do a "raw in 3 minutes" show that gets the information across far quicker. And I like their damn show! I just, yknow. Ain't nobody got time for that.
Barrage
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Meltzer's a fucking moron. New Day top in merch for all of WM weekend, but they should be in the "comedy match" because AA do ALLA DA MOVES. Get off your soapbox, dummy.
The fact thay he supports the Young Bucks as anything but Panderpoison shows how clueless and easily sucked up to he is.
The fact thay he supports the Young Bucks as anything but Panderpoison shows how clueless and easily sucked up to he is.
ShadowSwordmaster
Banned
I can believe that.
slightconfuse
Banned
You should read last week's observer. There are less people watching but the people left watch more(thanks to the network)
Bluekaveli
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You can give him shit for looking like Jon Bon Jovi but he's one of the best at working the crowd right now.
Well, type not wrong about this, personally, the the minute recap along with a video or two is enough for me as well, but that was kind of my point, it's harming their viewership, because this is how you slowly leave the product behind. I don't even sub to the Network anymore.
You become more and more detached from their product by the week, so to say.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I skipped the Nia Jax match, like I always do. She's really awkward and bad and her character is completely wrong.
British Monsoon
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Hey, they only pandered to me the once! https://twitter.com/SenorLARIATO/status/633062354096406528
But I liked The Bucks long before that, so there
I always say to their detractors that you might not like what they do, but they're great at it regardless.
ShadowSwordmaster
Banned
How is Lucha Underground doing in the ratings? After watching the show for sometime now, I wonder how many people are watching it.
slightconfuse
Banned
HOLY SHIT
Meanwhile Punk or Daniel Bryan get in the real big news and it doesn't get covered because it wasn't something they created.
I was talking to another person on a different forum about a dream that will probably never come true.
Hechicero in LU as the evil magic lord. He's already got the look. He's already taller than both their 'monsters.' He's already kayfabe evil magic man.
He's also close friends with the head trainer of CMLL though, so that won't happen. Traumas coudl work real well in LU too. And they need hte exposure because they're dope. Maybe Horus can hook em up
Hechicero in LU as the evil magic lord. He's already got the look. He's already taller than both their 'monsters.' He's already kayfabe evil magic man.
He's also close friends with the head trainer of CMLL though, so that won't happen. Traumas coudl work real well in LU too. And they need hte exposure because they're dope. Maybe Horus can hook em up
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
His point is that the titles aren't very important to their act because Meltzer prefers serious non-comedy acts.
Sweeney Tom
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ADAM
COLE
BAY
BAY
Hey! We're not friends!
Okay, we can be friends again, because I'm a forgiving, wonderful, beautiful man.
And I was thinking just yesterday "man, I have a lot of wrestling shirts. How did this happen?"
Let's take a look:
1. "Simply Ravishing" Rick Rude shirt: My first wrassle shirt. Got it, I dunno, a couple years ago now. As a gift. Because I mentioned how great it was to my lady friend.
2. That goofy cartoon-y Horsemen shirt: Another gift. I never wear it. Mostly because it's smallish.
3. Asuka shirt: Got it out of excitement for attending NXT Dallas. Wore it to the show. It's not very comfortable, though, so I don't wear it.
4. Ricky "The Dragon" Steamboat shirt: I got it when I bought the Asuka shirt because it was BOGO or something. I wore it to NXT Tulsa. It's a lot softer than the other shirts, and looks/fits okay, so I wear it a lot. Usually while walking the dog or mowing.
But whatever! This is just a phase, alright? I'm about to grow out of it! I'm all the way to 1999 in my chronological viewings! I'm thirty-one and will not stand for following wrestling at thirty... three.
;_;
sf2fanatic
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So would Meltz support a tag team like Cold Cold World from Championship Wrestling from Hollywood. No gimmicks, just straight kicking wrestlers ass
As a heel he is one of the best. As a face Bon Jovi Jericho doesn't work.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I think he just likes charismatic, serious acts. Like he doesn't seem to care for the Revival all that much because they're just two guys even though they're good at the wrestling part.
Bluekaveli
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Save the hoes bros
Bluekaveli
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Absolutely not, not today it doesn't. His first face run was great but after that, he proved that his career should've been heel until the ebd.