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Bluekaveli
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Turner is about to buy them out.
WWE dying would just mean WCW dies again
Damn, definitely a better way to debut a team rather than a taping.
Loving this.
Jimmy King
Member
TarpitCarnivore
Member
WCW mid-card 4 ever
Bluekaveli
Member
My friend said that show was eh. The show in Greenville(Friday) was The show to be at.
avengers23
Banned
Happy Kane Day is the same day as National Send a Nude Day. Coincidence?
ANuclearError
Member
One of my sorta major issues with WWE has been that they seemed to forget how to hype debuts with video packages, only to suddenly remember for bloody Primo & Epico of all people. A guy like Breeze would have benefited a lot of a few videos surely.
Speaking of, that Asuka video from NXT was great.
All these American indie nerds talking up Matt Riddle's moveset saying that he does top rope sentons and dives and all that shit when not on Evolve.
The last person on Earth who should be doing stuff like that every match is Matt Riddle. I just want to see him outgrapple everyone like the cockiest little fuck in the world and break some arms, not fail to be caught by some fat cunt Southern indie wrestler. Just stick to what Gabe has you doing basically.
The last person on Earth who should be doing stuff like that every match is Matt Riddle. I just want to see him outgrapple everyone like the cockiest little fuck in the world and break some arms, not fail to be caught by some fat cunt Southern indie wrestler. Just stick to what Gabe has you doing basically.
avengers23
Banned
God forbid that you have one character in one company and a different character and war crate in another. Riddle pulling top rope sentons and dives as a prominent member of Catch Point in Evolve makes no sense.
This Ospreay news has me down bro. I don't want to think about how instead of talking about "oh look how good he could be in 5 years" and instead "he's going to be legitimately crippled in 5 years". I hope I'm not going to shrivel up into some anti flip old man but right now, I'm not so hot about that whole deal. I'm sure BoSJ will cheer me up.
Figures that Hunter has gotten a load of grapplefuck guys in for the CWC, maybe they realize that style is a better longer term bet to go with.
British Monsoon
Member
Southern US indie nerds seem intent on starting beef with Britwres fans for some bizarre reason...sorry our scene's getting more attention, dudes. British wrestling was ignored for decades, but now has enough talent and good promotions to make waves again. I guess it's annoyance that guys like Marty, Zack & Ospreay are doing well for themselves in the US, while legitimately good wrestlers in the southern scene are ignored on a national scale. Guys like Chip Day, Andy Dalton and Jimmy Rave certainly deserve to be in the mix with EVOLVE, PWG, ROH, etc.
The Ospreay news is scary, but hopefully working with New Japan will allow him to dial it back a bit - he doesn't need to go all-out every match and nor will NJPW expect him to.
*edit, good god;
The Ospreay news is scary, but hopefully working with New Japan will allow him to dial it back a bit - he doesn't need to go all-out every match and nor will NJPW expect him to.
*edit, good god;
Jimmy King
Member
that is terrifying
But... I'm kinda feeling it?
SallyIsNow
Banned
What happened to Ospreay?
Jimmy King
Member
I was gonna say it's kind of impressive how Matt Hardy went from the lame Hardy Boy in 99 to... I don't know what the fuck. But good for him(?)
British Monsoon
Member
He's been having nerve problems in his back for a few months and recently one of his feet has been feeling numb as a result - kid needs to take a break, but with the Super Jr's about to start this is the biggest few months of his career and it looks like he's going to work through the injury.
ShadowSwordmaster
Banned
Didn't they tease that look a while back.
Bluekaveli
Member
That moment when you realize almost every opponent Hogan faced at Mania is dead.
Barrage
Member
In regards to RAWs ratings, you have to keep two things in mind.
1) the VAST majority of television ratings are down, year-over-year-over. RAWs drops are in line with the USA networks general declines.
2) the WWE told the USA network they were immune to this kind of drop due to being live sports programming. They were wrong.
The WWE have to take a hard look at the data in front of them and realize that RAW is watched more like Blacklist than Monday Night Football. People are perfectly with having it recapped the following day on Hulu or Youtube. The urgency is not there.
Now, certainly a lot of the fault lies with WWE, which made most PPVs uneventful during 2015, and transformed RAW into a pseudo-house show.
So they have to either retrain the audience (which will take time), or adapt (as in taping episodes to save money, creating more differences between the RAW hours, whatever they wanna do).
But anyone who says the sky is falling is braindead. Theyre making more revenue than ever in history, its just from less people while and its more expensive products to get that revenue.
And the saddest people are the people who take joy in the ratings fall because "the show sucks". Where was this correlation with ratings and quality when they were making great money with solid ratings during the "Same Old Shit" era?
1) the VAST majority of television ratings are down, year-over-year-over. RAWs drops are in line with the USA networks general declines.
2) the WWE told the USA network they were immune to this kind of drop due to being live sports programming. They were wrong.
The WWE have to take a hard look at the data in front of them and realize that RAW is watched more like Blacklist than Monday Night Football. People are perfectly with having it recapped the following day on Hulu or Youtube. The urgency is not there.
Now, certainly a lot of the fault lies with WWE, which made most PPVs uneventful during 2015, and transformed RAW into a pseudo-house show.
So they have to either retrain the audience (which will take time), or adapt (as in taping episodes to save money, creating more differences between the RAW hours, whatever they wanna do).
But anyone who says the sky is falling is braindead. Theyre making more revenue than ever in history, its just from less people while and its more expensive products to get that revenue.
And the saddest people are the people who take joy in the ratings fall because "the show sucks". Where was this correlation with ratings and quality when they were making great money with solid ratings during the "Same Old Shit" era?
Sweeney Tom
Banned
Pretty much. You can't even compare it to "well, everyone else's ratings are down" because no, in fact, not everyone has lost minimum 2 million viewers in a few years.
In that same time span, the fucking Walking Dead went up 6 million viewers
That is a HELL of a look. I think I kinda dig it. Total mid life crisis mode.
I've seen a few Chip Day matches and he has a garbage look but he's pretty solid otherwise. I've always heard Jimmy Rave talked about highly never really checked out a lot of his stuff, apparently he has a great match with AJ.
I think the BritWres stuff has the advantage of being really well presented and organized. Like these Southern Indies are UGLY, in an endearing sort of way but still feel indie cheap. Even RPW at its worst is a step above.
avengers23
Banned
The Ospreay stuff is an emotional low after the stretch he had in 2015, when folks like Meltzer were hailing him as the best under-25 wrestler in the world. I get that he doesn't want to lose the opportunities that NJPW is giving him in BoSJ, but it's distressing to consider his current and future health.
Friend of mine sent me pics. Looked liked the high school shows Flair/Valentine did around here in the 80s.
Arrowgigantic
Member
Who will save all those dalmatians from Matt Hardy tho
avengers23
Banned
I don't know what kind of connection Rave, in particular, has with Sapolsky or Delirious these days. Given that ROH has its own training pipeline, that Evolve is the unofficial entry way for guys WWE-bound, and that PWG only runs indie supershows these days (they're not even booking the SoCal talent as much as they did when they ran more shows), there's not much space for someone in the US southern indies or the midwest indies to break through. AAW is fine, but they're only notable when they're booking Lucha Underground guys. CZW's moved from the deathmatch stuff, but they have very little credibility, even when it's Best of the Best season. The hype for Inspire Pro in Texas has all but dried up. NWA Wildside, where guys like Rave and Kyle Matthews work, is still ticking along, but nobody talks about NWA Wildside because no one can watch NWA Wildside.
Accessibility, as has been pointed out, is an infrastructural issues for the US southern indies. You'd think the NWA would be able to help a little there, but that would require the NWA to be more than just a guy in a one-room office these days. Davey Vega seems to be breaking through a little, but not in a way that a Lio Rush or a Fred Yehi is.
Bluekaveli
Member
Bundy is next. Hogan is gonna outlive all of his opponents.
TarpitCarnivore
Member
Zach, this has your name all over it
http://www.sbnation.com/wrestling/2...97-crowd-pan-wrestling-fans-video-gif-stories
Dammit, this too http://nitrofans.tumblr.com/
http://www.sbnation.com/wrestling/2...97-crowd-pan-wrestling-fans-video-gif-stories
Dammit, this too http://nitrofans.tumblr.com/
Bluekaveli
Member
Lol! You know the worst thing is compared to the 2009 show, it was empty. And this was their second show at ECW. I think with the students being out it hurt the show.
People are really really high on Yehi though. Like as in "best indie wrestler that isn't Chris Hero" high. If Gabe will give me my free fucking VODs I'll watch his last few Evolve matches and see, I have enjoyed his stuff a lot there. Guess I'm not watching all these American indies like you listed to know.
Rock needs to get some sleep and stop juicing. How many projects does one need to be involved in to be happy? I guess for Rock it's all of them.
Liquidsnake
Banned
Jesus Matt, its like An alternative universes Seth Rollins. LOL
avengers23
Banned
Nobody, not even Boots, has the time for all that. I just parachute in when I hear there's a great match, like the random AJ Styles vs. Jimmy Rave match from last year or the Kyle Matthews vs. Jimmy Rave match from January 2015 that got some buzz.
It's also a problem of numbers. When you're wrestling in front of near 20 people, as Jimmy Rave and Kyle Matthews do in this match, it's impossible to get the kind of buzz you'd get from even a Florida Evolve show that's attended by 500 people. It's a difference by an order of magnitude at that point.
And Yehi was very good live during WrestleMania weekend.
Bluekaveli
Member
The things people will do for money. He's big enough that he can chill and only take requests for awesome movies but I think he wants to stay relevant.
Totally dropped the ball carrying the torch for Arnold and now he wants to make that up in like 5 years.
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Deleted member 47027
Unconfirmed Member
Kinda loving that Matt Hardy look. I know he's capable of being appropriately hammy with it too.
ShadowSwordmaster
Banned
I would suggest WCW Worldwide for more WCW goodness. They have a website, twitter, and Tumblr.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
The actual answer is probably that he's smart enough to know action stars have a short shelf life.
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Deleted member 47027
Unconfirmed Member
The more I think about it the more I prefer Matt Hardy to Jeff. He's just...so PRO WRESTLING.
Boots, what's this beef with I'm assuming Mid-South and Britwres?
Boots, what's this beef with I'm assuming Mid-South and Britwres?
UberTag
Member
His new look reminds me of a Mad Max villain for some reason.
