Have you ever seen Liger's work as the rudo luchador destroyer? It's amazing stuff
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May Wrasslin' |OT| Super Strong Style 16 - Thread Edition 2015
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Have you ever seen Liger's work as the rudo luchador destroyer? It's amazing stuff
Have you ever seen Liger's work as the rudo luchador destroyer? It's amazing stuff
I've seen Liger in CTU which is just stretching juniors all day. I assume it's similar to that.
Pretty much, but with more mask shenanigans and rudo tricksI've seen Liger in CTU which is just stretching juniors all day. I assume it's similar to that.
bitesnintendog
Member
ROH on Destination America is pretty awesome. Hope its the incentive ROH has needed to put more thought and work on their TV show.
I've greatly enjoyed TNA in the past and would say they had a pretty consistently entertaining promotion from 2004-2010ish, but they've been in a downward spiral ever since Hogan and co came in and the damage they've left has never seemed to fade away.
Guys like Roode and Aries will likely be fine but I feel bad for guys like Young and Storm who are talented but likely won't get another shot at anything large again.
I've greatly enjoyed TNA in the past and would say they had a pretty consistently entertaining promotion from 2004-2010ish, but they've been in a downward spiral ever since Hogan and co came in and the damage they've left has never seemed to fade away.
Guys like Roode and Aries will likely be fine but I feel bad for guys like Young and Storm who are talented but likely won't get another shot at anything large again.
Zeb was so good he got Cesaro and Swagger over more than they've ever been. They could really use him back. But WWE hates managers.They didn't drop Zeb. Zeb got injured by Rusev and written out of the storyline.
FlammableD
Banned
Another new Tag Team debut this last NXT. And Jason Jordan going to get another tag team partner.
What happened to the Vaudevillains?
What happened to the Vaudevillains?
FlammableD
Banned
Another new Tag Team debut this last NXT. And Jason Jordan going to get another tag team partner.
What happened to the Vaudevillains?
I was thinking that too a couple weeks ago. Apparently they had a dark match at the special.
Black Republican
Member
watching the lucha underground may20th ep , my first time watching the promotion, only 30mins in but i really like it so far, i kinda like this bleak dark club like feel to it. The spanish Theme music is awesome too
travislopes
Member
Another new Tag Team debut this last NXT. And Jason Jordan going to get another tag team partner.
What happened to the Vaudevillains?
They should be back on TV next week.
They should be back on TV next week.
Awesome! I quite enjoy their manly/chivalrous antics.
CM Punk after Darren Young came out:
What a stand-up guy.
Darren Young mini-doc: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1tB8cqOfS0
“After his brutal match with Brock Lesnar he was all iced up and I hadn't seen him since I made my announcement. He came up to me in catering and told me to stand up, you know, in front of people. I stood up, and he gave me a hug. He said ‘I’m proud of you. If you ever have any problems with anyone in the locker room, you let me know. I got your back.’ That meant the most to me.”
What a stand-up guy.
Darren Young mini-doc: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1tB8cqOfS0
Black Republican
Member
CM Punk after Darren Young came out:
What a stand-up guy.
Darren Young mini-doc: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1tB8cqOfS0
really good doc
slightconfuse
Banned
Anyone think Dario's brother is Psycho Clown?
Anyone think Dario's brother is Psycho Clown?
Hoping for Killer Croc.
Signing all that indy Talent for NXT on the cheap seems like a good move. They can even stay off of Vince's sacred show until he changes his mind... or not.
At this point is for the best.
When they showed Becky's segment on this episode all I could think was "no way they would do this on Raw". They are better off on NXT, except money wise.
But with NXT touring + merch and all their grow I can see the talent earning some good money there in the future.
At this point is for the best.
When they showed Becky's segment on this episode all I could think was "no way they would do this on Raw". They are better off on NXT, except money wise.
But with NXT touring + merch and all their grow I can see the talent earning some good money there in the future.
Gotta pay better than the actual Indy's for sure. I'm digging the process they have going on.
FlammableD
Banned
So Twitch basically banned Hatred without saying they're banning Hatred. Yet Mortal Kombat X is perfectly okay to stream even though it's one of the most violent games ever.
I don't fucking get this industry.
I can't muster the energy to pretend I'm upset at the "censorship" of Hatred.
I can't muster the energy to pretend I'm upset at the "censorship" of Hatred.
I could give two fucks about Hatred myself. I just think it's funny that Hatred made everyone mentally time warp back to the days when people thought GTA turned us into violent monsters.
So Twitch basically banned Hatred without saying they're banning Hatred. Yet Mortal Kombat X is perfectly okay to stream even though it's one of the most violent games ever.
I don't fucking get this industry.
I guess MKX is couched in a completely detached from reality fantasy world with a bunch of off the wall shit going on
Hatred is framed very much in our world as a supposedly once normal dude going off the rails and you get to act out his genocidal fantasies in the "real world". Also the devs probably geniuenly believe they are making some sort of grand social statement about violence in society. Anymore free advertising than they've gotten for the game is too much.
Perspicacity
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Why would anyone watch someone else play video games anyway? The fuck is wrong with you people?
FlammableD
Banned
I guess MKX is couched in a completely detached from reality fantasy world with a bunch of off the wall shit going on
Hatred is framed very much in our world as a supposedly once normal dude going off the rails and you get to act out his genocidal fantasies in the "real world". Also the devs probably geniuenly believe they are making some sort of grand social statement about violence in society. Anymore free advertising than they've gotten for the game is too much.
Well, they're more concerned about having a playground to take out those darn ess jay dubus, but yeah.
I guess MKX is couched in a completely detached from reality fantasy world with a bunch of off the wall shit going on
Hatred is framed very much in our world as a supposedly once normal dude going off the rails and you get to act out his genocidal fantasies in the "real world". Also the devs probably geniuenly believe they are making some sort of grand social statement about violence in society. Anymore free advertising than they've gotten for the game is too much.
The funny thing is that I'm pretty sure banning it on Twitch (coupled with all of the publicity sites have given it) will just create a Streisand effect that makes people want to see it even more.
The funny thing is that I'm pretty sure banning it on Twitch (coupled with all of the publicity sites have given it) will just create a Streisand effect that makes people want to see it even more.
given the structure of twitch/hitbox and how they are monetized I'd say that there aren't many streamers going to jump over to Hitbox or a similar service just to make pennies off a fad game
youtubers might see a small upswing in views but thats about it
Gotta pay better than the actual Indy's for sure. I'm digging the process they have going on.
It's great. Even if I they will eventually need an actual developmental territory since NXT is more and more an actual brand and product ahah.
I could give two fucks about Hatred myself. I just think it's funny that Hatred made everyone mentally time warp back to the days when people thought GTA turned us into violent monsters.
It's totally different. People aren't saying you'll be a monster if you play Hatred. They are simply saying that Hatred is a disgusting game made by awful people and Twitch (and Neogaf) don't want to help publicise it. They have every right to do and in this case they are totally in the right.
Just because something it's a game doesn't mean you can do whatever and they say "it's just a game, no harm done."
EDIT: And yeah, violence in the context of Mortal Kombat and on Hatred is completely different. It's not about violence itself but about the context of said violence.
It's totally different. People aren't saying you'll be a monster if you play Hatred. They are simply saying that Hatred is a disgusting game made by awful people and Twitch (and Neogaf) don't want to help publicise it. They have every right to do and in this case they are totally in the right.
Just because something it's a game doesn't mean you can do whatever and they say "it's just a game, no harm done."
Except they're kind of doing the opposite
EDIT: And yeah, violence in the context of Mortal Kombat and on Hatred is completely different. It's not about violence itself but about the context of said violence.
Then what about GTA, where you can just walk down a road gunning everyone down?
Only if you want to and it's never driven by anger or revenge. Where as the other game is clearly about a specific vendetta about murdering innocent peopleThen what about GTA, where you can just walk down a road gunning everyone down?
Only if you want to and it's never driven by anger or revenge. Where as the other game is clearly about a specific vendetta about murdering innocent people
So one is plot driven and one is literally only because the player wants to live out murder fantasies.
Which one is the worse game again?
The one that is more frequently imitated in real life.So one is plot driven and one is literally only because the player wants to live out murder fantasies.
Which one is the worse game again?
So one is plot driven and one is literally only because the player wants to live out murder fantasies.
Which one is the worse game again?
its turns out that humans, not video games, are the true monsters
Hatred is indeed setup by the developers 100% intentionally as a game where the only thing you can do is murder innocent people
i think murder rampages haven't been the thing to do in GTA games since Vice City as the games have incorporated so many other elements into the game for the player to pursue. Hell even the top down ones where you got points for murdering innocents pushed the whole "its an action movie where you are the director!" and open world angles.
I just looked up gameplay of hatred to see what the fuss is about. Looks like a shitty mobile game. People need to calm down. This isnt going to be any different than any other violent game out there now.
Yeah, the game is completely unremarkable.
its turns out that humans, not video games, are the true monsters
Hatred is indeed setup by the developers 100% intentionally as a game where the only thing you can do is murder innocent people
i think murder rampages haven't been the thing to do in GTA games since Vice City as the games have incorporated so many other elements into the game for the player to pursue. Hell even the top down ones where you got points for murdering innocents pushed the whole "its an action movie where you are the director!" and open world angles.
Trevor goes on a hipster murder rampage in GTAV
Except they're kind of doing the opposite
Then what about GTA, where you can just walk down a road gunning everyone down?
Your mission in GTA isn't to kill innocent people. The game doesn't tell you to do that. It does give you liberty to do that. And it has much, much more to it that that.
And even you want to do that and start killing people the context of it isn't "I hate society and everyone should die". Unless that's your posture while doing because it isn't what's happening in the game.
Again, it's all about context. Carmaggedon's goal is also to kill bystanders but it does it in a campy and dumb fun kinda way that so people understand it.
FlammableD
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Like I said, I can't muster up the energy to defend a game like that designed to attract the GG crowd. It's not about the gameplay, it's the 3edgy5me community around the game I have a problem with.I just looked up gameplay of hatred to see what the fuss is about. Looks like a shitty mobile game. People need to calm down. This isnt going to be any different than any other violent game out there now.
So one is plot driven and one is literally only because the player wants to live out murder fantasies.
Which one is the worse game again?
You seem to not understand tone and context.
You can't look at the tone of Hatred and GTA and say they are the same. They aren't.
And GTA gets plenty of criticism as it is. It's not like everyone aproves of those aspects of the game. But, even at it's worse, GTA doesn't approach the tone of what hatred is doing.
Like I said, I can't muster up the energy to defend a game like that designed to attract the GG crowd.
Yeah, I don't even know why I'm wasting energy on it. I guess I'm trying to prove that it's a mediocre game that's no worse than anything else out there already.
FlammableD
Banned
Oh yeah, totally, the game itself is like sub-Postal level edgyness.Yeah, I don't even know why I'm wasting energy on it. I guess I'm trying to prove that it's a mediocre game that's no worse than anything else out there already.
I like how chants get no sold in the Lucha Underground crowds. It's like there's that one PWG smark that always tries to get one done and either gets no sold or it dies out in like 3 seconds.
Are you the one that hates all the indy/NXT chants?
You seem to not understand tone and context.
You can't look at the tone of Hatred and GTA and say they are the same. They aren't.
And GTA gets plenty of criticism as it is. It's not like everyone aproves of those aspects of the game. But, even at it's worse, GTA doesn't approach the tone of what hatred is doing.
I dunno, when I look at Hatred i pretty much just see a slightly more serious take on Trevor Phillips from GTAV.
Are you the one that hates all the indy/NXT chants?
Fairly certain Data Zord just universally hates everything, except Power Rangers.
Roland_Gunner
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Except they're kind of doing the opposite
Then what about GTA, where you can just walk down a road gunning everyone down?
Are they? I don't see anyone except for you talking about it. To be fair, my exposure to gaming "culture" is pretty much limited to neogaf.
slightconfuse
Banned
LLucha underground comparison to MK makes so much more sense. We got a stage fatality last night
PENTAGON JR armbar is a brutality
PENTAGON JR armbar is a brutality