CrunchinJelly
formerly cjelly
I can't believe all this Russo hate.
He created the greatest period in sports entertainment HISTORY.
He created the greatest period in sports entertainment HISTORY.
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May Wrasslin |OT| Vince McMahon doesn't give 5 million f**ks what you think.
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bean breath
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Russo loves to take credit for everything. What else is new. He actually claims he pitched the montreal screwjob to Vince in this interview.
We've all had co-workers like Russo, who can only do good, initiated every good idea in the company, ever. And in reality, were just a very small part of a larger team that works just as well with them as it does without them.
Bottom line, a pompous know-it-all that doesn't know how to work in a team.
The only miraculous thing about Russo is how he managed to stay employed in this rather small business for this long given his track record and rep.
We've all had co-workers like Russo, who can only do good, initiated every good idea in the company, ever. And in reality, were just a very small part of a larger team that works just as well with them as it does without them.
Bottom line, a pompous know-it-all that doesn't know how to work in a team.
The only miraculous thing about Russo is how he managed to stay employed in this rather small business for this long given his track record and rep.
SquashMatch
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All I can say about Russo and TNA is that TNA has been on a steady upward climb since Russo has left. Like it or not, and I really cant believe I am about to say it........the team of Hogan, Bischoff and Pritchard have done a pretty good job the last few months.
Net_Wrecker
Member
I'd argue the Paul Heyman and the NWO had just as much of a hand in that as Russo did. Not only were Heyman and Vince in cahoots under the table, but Shane was a fan of ECW. Plus all the wrestlers/gimmicks that originated in ECW and moved on due to financial reasons.
And the NWO gave them "the push" or else the WWF would've been dominated.
bean breath
Member
Wrong again, Net_Wrecker.
Billionaire Ted was the impetus for Russo's eventual greatness.
Are you saying that Russo created Kane? My goodness, people. Russo IS A HERO!!!!Vince created some great storylines and invented the attitude era.
But also invented and allowed some really bad things to happen.
Remember - No Russo - No Evil undertaker
no Evil undertaker
No need for his half brother.
Net_Wrecker
Member
Hush, bean.
Plus Russo takes credit for the Stone Cold gimmick when Austin was already a rambling badass during his short stint in ECW. Russo be lyin, yo.
Mr. Enigma
Member
I remember when Russo was Vic Venom in the WWF mags and would basically just use his article to shoot on people.
"Why did Diesel lose the WWF Title? Because he was BORING"
"Why did Diesel lose the WWF Title? Because he was BORING"
bean breath
Member
I thought it was Shane that did that because he was an ECW mark.
bean breath
Member
Never knew about this. Is that what the part about "Vince slamming down the Raw Magazine" is about? I'll have to look for these articles.
Net_Wrecker
Member
He was editor of the magazine at that time. I think Vince slamming the magazine down is more "let's move in THIS direction" in general.
funkystudent
Member
Russo interview is interesting.
I wonder if it will take another 2.0~ rating to get McMahon to pull his head out of his ass this time and change what needs to be changed.
I wonder if it will take another 2.0~ rating to get McMahon to pull his head out of his ass this time and change what needs to be changed.
bean breath
Member
Take the initiative, funkystudent. Answer the call:
http://www.wwe-careers.com/wwe/jobboard/JobDetails.aspx?__ID=*2B010C34DEC11FA9
Keyser Soze
Member
THE FOURTH ANNUAL CHAIR MATCH!
So Exciting!!
So Exciting!!
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
funkystudent
Member
I meet a lot of this job requirements. I could probably fudge a few things on my CV and meet the rest.
If only I knew where my passport was.
But I couldn't think of a worse job for a wrestling smark then being a member of current WWE creative.
CrunchinJelly
formerly cjelly
Vince doesn't give a shit about anything but getting his rocks off. And if Cena inspirational speeches, midget comedy involving hornswaggle, and squash matches involving generic musclehead #381952 are what Vince wants, then damn it, that's what WWE is going to be.
CM Punk's shoot promo before he faced Cena at MitB should have ushered in a new era for WWE. And I'm serious when I say that. Over the years, we've seen worked shoots and programs based on real backstage heat. HBK vs. Bret Hart was loaded with that kind of stuff, and even brought the crowds into the damn thing depending on their nationalities. Austin 3:16 was a shoot smack-talk jab at Jake Roberts by austin after his KotR victory over Roberts (Roberts was pretty religious). CM Punk's promo should
have shifted WWE to be centered around those kind of worked storylines.
But it didn't happen. It never happens. Because Vince wants a live-broadcast soap opera instead of a truly dynamic product where the performers and the crowds feed off each other.
If Vince understood this, we'd have seen various dolph-ziggler-can-sell-anything merchandise . We would have seen ice cream bars. We would not see someone like The Masterpiece or Ryback get no reaction and continue to get TV time week after week. We would not see faces that constantly get booed (like john cena) continue to be faces for 7 years after the boos begin.
We would not have seen evan Bourne stuck in limbo after all the crowd reactions he'd get during his matches. We would not have seen Kofi stuck in the lower mid card after the reaction he got when he was given a little room to work the crowds during his feud with Randy Orton and Legacy. We would have seen Christian be in the title picture instead of defecting to TNA back in 2005-2006. We would have seen Shelton Benjamin get a PERMANENT mouthpiece and pushed to the title picture
The audience does not matter much in the current WWE. And so they feel disenfranchised and unappreciated, and gradually tune out.
That is why the ratings have been in steady decline over the last 7 years, gradually dropping from 3.7-4.5 to 2.7-3.3
And they will continue to decline until something changes.
Keyser Soze
Member
They should advertise jobs for plants
Carnby
Member
German version?
There's a Russo Defense Force? Now I can say I've truly seen everything.
The guy was a one hit wonder, and gets way more credit for that hit then he contributed. Not to mention he helped shove WCW into an early grave, and we've all witnessed the absolute abomination that TNA has become.
The guy was a one hit wonder, and gets way more credit for that hit then he contributed. Not to mention he helped shove WCW into an early grave, and we've all witnessed the absolute abomination that TNA has become.
CrunchinJelly
formerly cjelly
And we've all witnessed the absolute shite the WWE has become. What is your point?
WWE was nowhere near as bad as the putrid, wretched trash that TNA was at it's worst.
Net_Wrecker
Member
I beg to differ. They're different kinds of trash, but equally bad IMO. TNA was over the top latter years WCW kind of trash, WWE is just boring nonsensical trash. Both of them bad but most people are less critical of the WWE because they're in arenas every week, get Cee-lo to perform, have pyrotechnic displays, and because CM Punk/Daniel Bryan are there.
BoboBrazil
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Russo did alot of good and some bad. He was never given free reign in WCW because of creative control in wrestler contracts, Turner coming down on him, and standards and practices not allowing anything to go through. In WWE he did great with Ferrara working under Vince. Yes there was alot of bad, but even the bad more often than not was entertaining tv. Has TNA improved since Russo left? It's hard to say. Much of the recent good from TNA stems from Eric Bischoff being written off tv. Not having to deal with him in segments all night has improved the show. Pacing is also slower which is good, but stuff like the X division and tag division are being forgotten, the stupid finishes are still happening although less frequently, and there are still heel and face turns happening randomly like with Angle recently. Also there is a lack of those intriguing storylines that Russo was good at crafting. He definitely is at his strongest working with Ferrara and preferably under Vince with the talent they have at his disposal. He probably would never come back to WWE with the huge writing team they have now of 20+ writers, but if he did and they gave him control with maybe 1 or 2 other people, the change would be very noticeable and everyone would start having storylines again.
BoboBrazil
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Also I just realized Sting vs Roode is NOT for the title! YES! Probably setting up the rematch at Slammiversary.
Keyser Soze
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Arrowgigantic
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bean breath
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I like the part where Booker T. admitted to Michael Cole that he didn't understand what Damien Sandow was talking about during his monologue.
Professor Beef
Banned
Dat hoverhand.
What's the name of the black-haired girl?
What's the name of the black-haired girl?
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
That woman's crotch is on fire. Help.
Professor Beef
Banned
She's a cutie.
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