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May Wrestling |OT2| We watch it so you don't have to
- Thread starter Professor Beef
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blackaroni
Member
Didn't they say it last night?
Dark Ninja
Member
Lol that finish.
serenewarfare
Banned
Surprising, but in retrospect it makes sense. Dolph needs credibility and AJ can more than afford the loss at this point. But I expect meltdowns over it.
The Strokes
Banned
Hidden One
Member
Dolph shouldn't be beating anyone clean. Ever.
serenewarfare
Banned
I mean like him or not he's in a big match at the PPV. So he needs credibility in the eyes of the audience.
I don't like Dolph that much, but it doesn't mean him winning is automatically terrible and/or illogical.
newdayrocks
Member
Vince's boner for having folks lose in their hometown is the worst. He apparently thinks it builds up the winners as heels, but that's bullshit.
The Strokes
Banned
Wait, what the fuck, Neville lost? How? Why?
At least they're making a big deal out of it, which it should.
At least they're making a big deal out of it, which it should.
Dolph is beyond salvaging. AJ is in position to being a brand carrying star. A win for Dolph means less than nothing. A win for AJ gives a homestate crowd a reason to be happy and cements AJ's position in the company as being above Dolph fucking Ziggler at the very least.
But I guess repeating a proven to not work pattern is all fine and dandy.
Dark Ninja
Member
But...but...wins and losses don't matter...right?
serenewarfare
Banned
Tyson Kidd was a nothing jobber for years and he was built back up to being over and legit.
You can always get credibility back if booked right.
ShadowSwordmaster
Banned
It's getting pretty bad.
He had credibility in his matches with the Miz. The title vs career match was great and people said should of main evented the show.
serenewarfare
Banned
A win for AJ means nothing more than a Dolph win. AJ winning would get a good reaction, yeah, but he's over to the degree that he's not losing anything with one loss to Dolph. And Dolph winning shows you that they are willing to put him over now, so you'll believe when he's in the ring with someone of that caliber next time, he has a chance. Therefore, more credibility.
slightconfuse
Banned
People defending dolph winning in 2017
How?
How?
What about pleasing the crowd and having a good episode? Before Mania SD was known as the good show for week-to-week storytelling.
WWE has shown time and again it doesn't care about long-term booking and building credibility. Jinder went from jobbing to Rob Gronkowski in the Memorial Battle Royal to WWE Champion in 7 weeks.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I don't get why Zayn wants to keep fighting Corbin after he finally beat a guy clean twice without losing.
serenewarfare
Banned
If you are basing the quality of the entire episode on who wins the main event, you need to re-evaluate.
And whether or not they are purposely doing it, it's a move that's not indefensible.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
How do you figure a font is racist? We might as well admit words don't mean anything if fonts are now racist.
Of course not but WWE want/need to retain audiences for all 2/3 hours on their shows. Getting a reputation of having crappy main events constantly makes people switch off.
serenewarfare
Banned
This is the easiest way to break it down. Going into that match, did you think Dolph or AJ would win? How confident were you in that pick? Now after the match, you would probably give Dolph more of a chance in future matches of that caliber because you know they are willing to put him over.
Again, it's not a matter of whether you like Dolph or not. I don't like Dolph at all. His character is fucking trash and I can't stand his promos. But in and of itself, his win makes sense as an idea to make fans consider him as more of a contender in the future and in the MITB match.
The main event wasn't crappy though. Match quality isn't solely based on who wins and loses. It was a good match, a good main event. The finish doesn't change that. It's not that dramatic a swing.
Again, it's not a matter of whether you like Dolph or not. I don't like Dolph at all. His character is fucking trash and I can't stand his promos. But in and of itself, his win makes sense as an idea to make fans consider him as more of a contender in the future and in the MITB match.
The main event wasn't crappy though. Match quality isn't solely based on who wins and loses. It was a good match, a good main event. The finish doesn't change that. It's not that dramatic a swing.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
People don't like the idea of portraying the WWE as being even mildly competitive because ???
SallyIsNow
Banned
Dark Ninja
Member
People got worked on Monday by Correy Graves looking at his phone getting up and leaving while being on camera in 2017.
Sweeney Tom
Banned
lol@sd
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
People would respond to Cedric if he was put in the main event of WrestleMania 4 years in a row and was invincible.
What's the point of Dolph being a heel if he beats a face clean though, a face who is in kayfabe still considered one of the top competitors.
It's not like there isn't a precedent for people winning the MITB briefcase through nefarious means.
I switched it on and TND interrupted an awesome Uso promo and I minimised the tab and forgot about it.
Raw is dead. SD is dead. 205 LIVE is an aborted fetus.
It's not like there isn't a precedent for people winning the MITB briefcase through nefarious means.
I didn't watch it, friend.
I switched it on and TND interrupted an awesome Uso promo and I minimised the tab and forgot about it.
Raw is dead. SD is dead. 205 LIVE is an aborted fetus.
He had no credibility in that match. Most people wanted him to lose. Like he when lost the belt the next ppv no one cared.
SallyIsNow
Banned
Whose side are you on, NewYork-Man?"Look at em, they're too busy watching Raw AND Smackdown to have friends!"
We did it!
I've been on this forum for almost 20 years in it's various incarnations. You are by *far* the laziest troll I've ever seen. You post the exact same dumb bullshit multiple times a day.
Yes OwensIsNow. People watch and discuss wrestling in the fucking WRESTLING DISCUSSION THREAD. No matter what year it is.
Fuck.
Tell me it wasn't ...
..oh....
#WomensRevolution
serenewarfare
Banned
Because not every heel has to cheat to win every match. He's a heel because he's an asshole. Not just because he cheats. Look at Roode in NXT. He wins all the time, but he's still a heel because he acts like a dick while he does it.
Credibility is not about people liking you. It's about people believing you can win.
God damn it
When did this happen? Like Tyson became so over that when he retired no knew or cared.
serenewarfare
Banned
You're right. I imagined his whole run with Cesaro where the crowd was cheering for them or his NXT run where he was in main events and getting big reactions.
It a wrestling thread...in 2017....
Pretending to be on a high horse (that is metaphoric not that the horse is actually high) while gimmick posting....on the internet..poorly ..in 2017
But No one believes in Dolph Ziggler can., There nothing they can do to change people minds cause at the end of the day we already know what the WWE think about Ziggy.
Professor Beef
Banned
Alicia with that Punch-Out knockdown animation lmao
By your logic then the crowd in the match would then not react at all to the match and bomb right?
that didn't happen.