MAYWEATHER VS. PACQUIAO Official May 2nd

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MVP said:
It's my first time picking against Floyd, but all signs point towards his first loss tonight.
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All signs except his unsurpassed defensive talent, you mean.

I'm still standing by my 8-4 Mayweather prediction, with the chance of a robbery however the fight ends up. Hell, Many could win 10 rounds to 2 and I can still imagine judges scoring it for Mayweather, haha.
 
_illmatic_ said:
I'm not even about to touch the ducking Pacman argument, but pretty much every single up and coming boxer wants a chance at Money. They all want to fight the P4P KING. They all pretty much have there own promotion company.

They are trying to emulate the fighter who got his first title at 98 and REMAINED at the top of the game #1 P4P for over a decade. I don't think any lost can erase that.
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It won't erase his legacy of being this generation's Pernell Whitaker with more business acumen, and his talent won't ever be disputed, but you're delusional if you think he will go down in history books above Pacquiao once he loses tonight. Tonight is for all the marbles.
 
Tenebrous said:
All signs except his unsurpassed defensive talent, you mean.

I'm still standing by my 8-4 Mayweather prediction, with the chance of a robbery however the fight ends up. Hell, Many could win 10 rounds to 2 and I can still imagine judges scoring it for Mayweather, haha.
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That would be sad
 
I don't see how anyone could say Manny has the better legacy right at this moment. Floyd's owned the welterweight division over the last 10 years, and has been P4P king for the greater part of that.

Manny did get knocked out cold not too long ago. Because of that, one could argue that Marquez has more than settled the score and won the war against Manny even though he lost more battles by really close decisions.

Whoever wins this fight takes the greater legacy though.
 
MVP said:
vs. Manny's unsurpassed offensive talent.
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Yep, but throw in Floyd's superior boxing IQ and I think, if he brings his A game, it's almost going to be too easy. He needs to bring his A game, though... If he doesn't, Pac can land enough to outscore him.

_illmatic_ said:
That would be sad
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Yeah. I hope for the future of boxing that the decision is right... I'd still love to see Floyd get robbed, though.
 
I'm glad this is happening. I don't hate Floyd. He sells himself very well and is an amazing fighter but my heart is with Manny and Freddy. I'm just happy it's finally happening and I hope it's a fantastic fight that lives up to the hype.
 
Tenebrous said:
Yep, but throw in Floyd's superior boxing IQ and I think, if he brings his A game, it's almost going to be too easy. He needs to bring his A game, though... If he doesn't, Pac can land enough to outscore him.
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That's a pre-emptive excuse, though. Pac won't let him fight his A-game, so he's gonna lose fair and square, not because Floyd "didn't bring his A-game". Same excuse people used for why he looked bad against Maidana in the 1st fight.
 
MVP said:
The first 3 fights vs. Marquez tell a different story. You keep hanging on to his lucky KO and then Mayweather's performance vs. Marquez as your last hope.
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I'm not sure I'd call it a lucky KO, to be honest. Obviously with a shot like that there's always going to be an element of luck involved, but the timing was perfect and the execution was flawless.

But yeah, Manny overall destroys JMM as an offensive boxer. It's not even up for debate.

MVP said:
That's a pre-emptive excuse, though. Pac won't let him fight his A-game, so he's gonna lose fair and square, not because Floyd "didn't bring his A-game". Same excuse people used for why he looked bad against Maidana in the 1st fight.
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We'll see. I'll be rooting for Manny, but if Floyd can adapt early enough, he'll win... That being said, Manny has a lot more stamina than the likes of Canelo & Maidana. He has the energy to be throwing in the championship rounds, and that might be the deal breaker.
 
MVP said:
The first 3 fights vs. Marquez tell a different story. You keep hanging on to his lucky KO and then Mayweather's performance vs. Marquez as your last hope.
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I never mention Mayweather vs Marquez though.......

And that damn sure wasn't a lucky punch, he hit Pacquaio with that SAME punch multiple times in the fight.
 
Tenebrous said:
I'm not sure I'd call it a lucky KO, to be honest. Obviously with a shot like that there's always going to be an element of luck involved, but the timing was perfect and the execution was flawless.

But yeah, Manny overall destroys JMM as an offensive boxer. It's not even up for debate.
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I call it lucky because you can see him throwing that shot repeatedly in the first 3 fights, I mean eventually you're gonna land that sucker flush, and it only took 4 fights lol. Now according to someone above, "the score is settled, Marquez won". Come on now.
 
MVP said:
I call it lucky because you can see him throwing that shot repeatedly in the first 3 fights, I mean eventually you're gonna land that sucker flush, and it only took 4 fights lol. Now according to someone above, "the score is settled, Marquez won". Come on now.
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So its luck that Marquez landed a shot on Manny that he KNEW about from previous fights? I'll call that a opening a flaw on Manny that he couldn't adjust to.
 
Everyone and their mom is suddenly picking Pac.

It just feels like everyone trying to convince themselves against the inevitable.
 
Tenebrous said:
That being said, Manny has a lot more stamina than the likes of Canelo & Maidana. He has the energy to be throwing in the championship rounds, and that might be the deal breaker.
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This is key. People are expecting the early rounds to be exciting, then Mayweather dictates the pace, gets into his rhythm, and dominates down the stretch like we've seen before. Question is, when has Pacquiao EVER faded down the stretch?

He doesn't get mentally tired and has been in some all-out wars with fighters who can bang and he's taken some nasty shots, been wobbled, etc. and he keeps coming, so Floyd hitting him with a few well-timed pitty-pat counters is not going to all of a sudden slow him down so Floyd can cruise the rest of the fight.
 
the dislike that Floyd gets...his reputation

is it more of something that he likes? he enjoys playing the "villain" was it something he crafted

or was it something that just happened because of his actions
 
He created the Money persona that everybody hates and it pushed him to selling more fights. He has been convicted of domestic abuse that have people hating him as a person. So some people don't watch boxing but just want the bad guy to lose.
 
RadioHammer500 said:
the dislike that Floyd gets...his reputation

is it more of something that he likes? he enjoys playing the "villain" was it something he crafted

or was it something that just happened because of his actions
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It's how he markets himself. It's all about the money and his arrogant persona combined with his skill has made him get the biggest payday in sports history. You love him or hate him you're gonna pay to see him fight.
 
RadioHammer500 said:
the dislike that Floyd gets...his reputation

is it more of something that he likes? he enjoys playing the "villain" was it something he crafted

or was it something that just happened because of his actions
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He crafted it by beating women on the side and being a racist.

"Once I stomp the midget, I'll make that motherfucker make me a sushi roll and cook me some rice", and also called him a "little yellow chump".

Class act, really.
 
MVP said:
This is key. People are expecting the early rounds to be exciting, then Mayweather dictates the pace, gets into his rhythm, and dominates down the stretch like we've seen before. Question is, when has Pacquiao EVER faded down the stretch?

He doesn't get mentally tired and has been in some all-out wars with fighters who can bang and he's taken some nasty shots, been wobbled, etc. and he keeps coming, so Floyd hitting him with a few well-timed pitty-pat counters is not going to all of a sudden slow him down so Floyd can cruise the rest of the fight.
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Does floyd have stopping power? I'm not so sure he can stop the likes of Manny. Neutralize him with his defense yes. Stop him I'm not so sure.
 
RadioHammer500 said:
the dislike that Floyd gets...his reputation

is it more of something that he likes? he enjoys playing the "villain" was it something he crafted

or was it something that just happened because of his actions
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He's brilliant at playing the heel.

The problem is he's a legitimately piece of shit person in reality, so it kind of sours the act.
 
BennyBlanco said:
Michelle Beadle and Rachel Nichols saying theyve been banned from the MGM Grand by Mayweather camp. Weird.
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Not really. They've been reporting on his past domestic abuse charges recently because of the super fight. When doing media coverage they kept asking him about beating women. (Which he was charged for before the Cotto fight.)
 
_illmatic_ said:
Not really. They've been reporting on his past domestic abuse charges recently because of the super fight. When doing media coverage they kept asking him about beating women. (Which he was charged for before the Cotto fight.)
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Michelle Beadle in particular is constantly making appearances on Jim Lampley's show to shoot the shit yet I don't remember once her asking him about his domestic violence issues...
 
Ninja Scooter said:
Michelle Beadle in particular is constantly making appearances on Jim Lampley's show to shoot the shit yet I don't remember once her asking him about his domestic violence issues...
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Wasn't she involved in some back and forth with Stephen A. Smith about the Ray Rice situation? That might be why.
 
MVP said:
Not a chance, especially losing against Pacquiao. He's fighting against the fighter that people have been clamoring for him to fight against for 5+ years, he's been using excuse after excuse to avoid it, and when it finally happens, he loses? Zero chance his legacy will be bigger than Pacquiao's after tonight. Zero.
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Your level of certainty is absurd and hilarious.

Industry vets are overwhelmingly choosing Mayweather, including all 5 fighters who have faced both fighters.
http://ringtv.craveonline.com/news/388167-floyd-mayweather-jr-vs-manny-pacquiao-fight-picks-wrap-up

I can't help but be reminded of this scene.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeWduNomDqY

I guess we'll know the answer in a few hours.
 
Tom_Cody said:
Your level of certainty is absurd and hilarious.

Industry vets are overwhelmingly choosing Mayweather, including all 5 fighters who have faced both fighters.
http://ringtv.craveonline.com/news/388167-floyd-mayweather-jr-vs-manny-pacquiao-fight-picks-wrap-up

I can't help but be reminded of this scene.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeWduNomDqY

I guess we'll know the answer in a few hours.
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The overwhelming opinion is what will make tonight so much sweeter. I'll side with Foreman on this one. He was in Mayweather's shoes, the undefeated fighter who looked unbeatable going up against Ali. He had already beat Frazier who beat Ali. What could go wrong? Easy win for Foreman, obviously.

Oh wait, undefeated records and industry vet opinions mean shit when you go up against a fighter with the style to beat you.

Over/under on the round Mayweather says he broke his hand in after he loses?
 
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