No point in a new OT until CW and stuff is in. I'll be an actual game then
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No point in a new OT until CW and stuff is in. I'll be an actual game then
Well, if you're disappointed with this launch, you can spend some time on this nice tumblr:
http://artofbattletech.tumblr.com/
http://artofbattletech.tumblr.com/
TransTrender
Gold Member
So are 8v8 matches just gone now?
SUBZERO-08
Member
Yeah. Replaced by 12v12.
Giolon
Member
Yep. The goal was always to get to 12v12 so you could have the full traditional 4 lance contingent on your team, but they had to get both graphical and network performance in line first. They were talking about heading towards it when I joined closed beta a year ago.
Some of the smaller maps can feel cramped with 12v12, and the deathball is now even more deadly, but I see more flanking tactics and lances sticking together and heading off in different directions far more prevalently than I did in the 8v8 days and the larger maps benefit from having the higher mech population on them.
It also makes deciding how much ammo to take a bit more of a tradeoff since there are 50% more mechs on the other team you might need to shoot at!
king picollo
Member
Is it me or when they say massive battles and you have loads of mechs storming down the hill does it look like more than 12 a side? more like to teams walking together down the hill to make it look like the battles are bigger than they seem.
It is a bit over the top but does look cool.
Giolon
Member
I counted, there's at last 16 mechs running down that hill, lol. That's part of why I said it's ridiculous. XD
I just dropped the stats from my MWO profile into Libreoffice and did a very quick-and-dirty graph. I am getting so, so so tired of Terra Therma, and now I know why.
Matchmaking, why do you hate me thus.
To leave this post on an uplifting(?) note:
PGI has had the ability to weight map selection since Alpine came out, and they tend to weight it towards the newer maps. I haaaaaaaaaaate Terra Therma with a passion I never thought possible because I already hated Alpine so much.
Yeah, there wasn't much point in calling this launch, but whatever.
Anyhow, still had a blast playing the game yesterday. I find the core gameplay to be in a good place right now. Pgi is horrendously slow at balancing/fixing things, but they tend to still get there eventually.
Flamer buff, wooooo. It was fun seeing a lance of hunchbacks backing me up, and I love the sound it makes. The sound of the lbx is pretty sweet now too - i guess it's been a while since i used it.
Orion is a decent mech. I think you can make a good balanced heavy out of it. In ways, it does feel like a poor man's atlas. It'll fell underarmed compared to the assault if you make it barely go faster than one. I decided to experiment a bit, and currently have a longrange harasser/brawler with 2ac5 LL ML. Not super firepower, but with a 325eng it goes pretty fast for a std heavy. Other build is a slower variant of my old dragon/centurion xl skirmisher, but with a std engine (300? 310? I forget). I combine lbx+2srm4art (torso only) into one weapon group, and top it off with 4 arm ML to finish off exposed parts. Going ~70kph pre-tweak gives it a nice mid-role btw the assault brawler and the med skirmisher/flanker. This guy can do a bit of both. Anyway, starting to enjoy the mech
Anyhow, still had a blast playing the game yesterday. I find the core gameplay to be in a good place right now. Pgi is horrendously slow at balancing/fixing things, but they tend to still get there eventually.
Flamer buff, wooooo. It was fun seeing a lance of hunchbacks backing me up, and I love the sound it makes. The sound of the lbx is pretty sweet now too - i guess it's been a while since i used it.
Orion is a decent mech. I think you can make a good balanced heavy out of it. In ways, it does feel like a poor man's atlas. It'll fell underarmed compared to the assault if you make it barely go faster than one. I decided to experiment a bit, and currently have a longrange harasser/brawler with 2ac5 LL ML. Not super firepower, but with a 325eng it goes pretty fast for a std heavy. Other build is a slower variant of my old dragon/centurion xl skirmisher, but with a std engine (300? 310? I forget). I combine lbx+2srm4art (torso only) into one weapon group, and top it off with 4 arm ML to finish off exposed parts. Going ~70kph pre-tweak gives it a nice mid-role btw the assault brawler and the med skirmisher/flanker. This guy can do a bit of both. Anyway, starting to enjoy the mech
That variant with the missile tubes in the arms looks pretty sweet when loaded up with lrms. Doesn't do to bad a job with them either. I found that the shoulder with the missile pod on it a lot like the hunch on the hunchback tho so i've had to learn to turn that side away every time or it gets pealed off pretty quick
king picollo
Member
The hunches always seem to take damage fast, not sure if that's due to people targeting it or the way the damage is distributed due to it's size.
ColonelSkills
Member
Definitely targeted. Each segment has a hitbox, and while there's some damage flow from one segment to the next in certain circumstances, The shoulder mount represents an easy to see, easy to target, and guaranteed location for the Hunch's main weapons array (or largest single weapon), so it's a no brainer to shoot it first.
Barrel Cannon
Member
Only found out today morning that the game was officially released. I haven't touched the game since July. Anything major change since then?
king picollo
Member
A couple of new Mechs (Kintaro & Orion), the Gauss now has to charge before firing, a new map maybe Terra Therma.
A few other balance changes but that's about it.
A few other balance changes but that's about it.
BattleMonkey
Member
And a 3rd person camera option! lolz
king picollo
Member
Oh yeah, forgot about that since it immediately got turned off by everyone lol.
Hunches are high priority targets. Keep yourself out of sight!
I've been warming up to the Orion. Made an AC20/2LL build, which makes for a good brawler with good longrange. But my favorite build is still the LBX/2srm4 combo. My previous run was LBX/2srm4art/4medlas 310eng (66-67kph+tweak). Trying out swapping the 310 for a 300 (2.5 ton freed up for the mere cost of 2kph), so that's AMS + a free ton. Removed 2 medlas from one arm + removed art and that frees up 4t extra. Thus, 1 LL. I don't like decreasing the speed on this type of build (lacking focused damage, I want to run it as a harassing brawler, but 2kph isn't massive and the net gain is significant), nor removing artermis, but the addition of the LL is invaluable since the original build lacked any sort of longrange.
king picollo
Member
I have a AC20, LPL, with 3 ml's 'Phract that is currently kicking butt.
I think LPL's get a bad rap.
I think LPL's get a bad rap.
ColonelSkills
Member
Oh man.
I maaaaaaaaaay have gone ahead and gotten a casting of that Dragon from the sculptor guy posted a few pages back.
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF is it nice.
I maaaaaaaaaay have gone ahead and gotten a casting of that Dragon from the sculptor guy posted a few pages back.
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF is it nice.
ColonelSkills
Member
It's not cheap.
At all.
I'll post a pic when I'm done painting it. I don't actually OWN an airbrush though, so it might be a bit before I'm making progress on that front.
At all.
I'll post a pic when I'm done painting it. I don't actually OWN an airbrush though, so it might be a bit before I'm making progress on that front.
I like the weapon hardpoint options the chassis presents and the distribution locations, but the thing is about the size of an atlas and not nearly as well armored. Sure I can do interesting things with it, but the survivability of the chassis in general blows. I've found that in many instances i would have done better in a stalker or something signifigantly smaller like a jager, phract, or centurion.
king picollo
Member
Do you think they'll be available for c-bills eventually?
Of course they will be, isn't this confirmed already? Just wait a few months...
EDIT non-Project Phoenix classic mechs that is.
There'll still be monthly mechs. So, 1 new phoenix mech for Oct, Nov, Dec, Jan. Then the saber mechs for Feb and March.
I'm pretty excited for tomorrow. 12 new mechs (ok, 9 relevant ones, screw you locust!) to tinker and mess around with in the mechlab <3
I'm pretty excited for tomorrow. 12 new mechs (ok, 9 relevant ones, screw you locust!) to tinker and mess around with in the mechlab <3
Some good points. It's very much an in-between mechs where you start considering taking a stronger heavier mech, or a lighter small faster mech. However, I still really enjoyed playing around with it as a fast (for an assault, anyway) assault. The extra speed allowed me to flank a bit more, rather than just dish it out in classic 'stand and take it' assault fights.
king picollo
Member
I'm debating spending my hard fought C-bills on one of the current batch or waiting to get one of the new ones.
Messed around with a few mechs so far. The locust, as expected, is a joke mech. That being said, at max engine it can go about 154 pre-tweak, so it'll be able to outrun jenners and ravens once it gets tweak. 1V can man 4 MGs+2t + either a med laser or a flamer (hahahaha) as well as AMS with max XL190. 3M can man 5 small lasers with 13DHS (which isn't a great idea since the jenner can do way better as a laserboat). It's a joke mech, but it's actually kind of fun...?
Shadowhawk is amazing. Enjoying all 3 variants. I mean, 55ton, ballistic slot, JJ, able to go 80-100kph. It's almost the ideal mech for me. Really really really enjoying this one.
Haven't tried the bigger mechs yet.
Shadowhawk is amazing. Enjoying all 3 variants. I mean, 55ton, ballistic slot, JJ, able to go 80-100kph. It's almost the ideal mech for me. Really really really enjoying this one.
Haven't tried the bigger mechs yet.
BattleMonkey
Member
Nothing really, just more mechs and stuff to buy. Larger matches, 3rd person, and maps would be it otherwise.
ColonelSkills
Member
If it wasn't for the machine gun nerf half a dozen patches ago, the locust might be borderline viable for spam for that, like the machine gun spider used to be.
Emphasis on used to, though.
A shame, I like the locust redesign aesthetically.
Emphasis on used to, though.
A shame, I like the locust redesign aesthetically.
Giolon
Member
Bryan Ekman streamed UI2.0 earlier today: http://www.twitch.tv/bryanekman/b/472237522
Lots of nifty stuff in there, like being able to set up your weapon groups, graphs w/ damage falloff, man I'm ready.
You know what? The Locust is still a fucking beast - as long as you stay away from anyone w/ Streaks or driving a Jenner. It doesn't quite have the screwed up hitboxes that the Spider has, but you are so small and fast most people can't hit you. And you're so maneurable you can stay behind anybody. I cored out an AC/40 Jager from behind last night solo.
I'm running my LCT-1V(P) w/ 4MGs and an MPL. It's vicious.
BTW, anybody watch me die in the tournament? lol They did give us cockpit medallions that say "Launch Event Attendee" on them in last week's patch which was nice.
Lots of nifty stuff in there, like being able to set up your weapon groups, graphs w/ damage falloff, man I'm ready.
You know what? The Locust is still a fucking beast - as long as you stay away from anyone w/ Streaks or driving a Jenner. It doesn't quite have the screwed up hitboxes that the Spider has, but you are so small and fast most people can't hit you. And you're so maneurable you can stay behind anybody. I cored out an AC/40 Jager from behind last night solo.
I'm running my LCT-1V(P) w/ 4MGs and an MPL. It's vicious.
BTW, anybody watch me die in the tournament? lol They did give us cockpit medallions that say "Launch Event Attendee" on them in last week's patch which was nice.
SUBZERO-08
Member
UI 2.0 is looking nice.
The new moon base map seems pretty sweet. Should be fun.
The new moon base map seems pretty sweet. Should be fun.
ColonelSkills
Member
This actually sounds pretty silly, I'll give it a shot. I'm glad it's not completely meritless as a chassis.
Thanks.
Except the idiot devs balance the game for casuals. Third person view. Balancing that isn't based on around the idea every knows and understands everything about mech customization (go a few pages back and you'll see what i mean).
EDIT check the last part of this post
Doesn't matter 3rd person view sucks, its existence is an abomination. It should not be in a mech simulator.
Tried going back to the game after being away for a couple of months. The third person view kind of ruins the whole thing for me, because I hate using it myself (isimulation is the entire reason why I play Mechwarrior). Meanwhile, it affects me to think that other people are potentially using it for tactical advantages.
it's kind of breaking the experience for me at the moment. But I am a sycophantic Battletech fan and I'm sure I'll play once I have more time availabe or when I am in a mood for Battletech again. Most certainly PGI has the extreme advantage of releasing Clan mechs and settings, and I'm admittedly a huge sucker for those things
it's kind of breaking the experience for me at the moment. But I am a sycophantic Battletech fan and I'm sure I'll play once I have more time availabe or when I am in a mood for Battletech again. Most certainly PGI has the extreme advantage of releasing Clan mechs and settings, and I'm admittedly a huge sucker for those things
They do force people to start in 3rd person which is kind of lame... (unless you uncheck the box)
Also, it's funny to see that no one that I have seen online uses 3rd person...
Seems everyone switches it to 1st person.
Would be cool if you could destroy the 3rd person camera that pops out of mechs.
1st time I played, I thought it was an enemy drone and tried shooting it down...
Also, it's funny to see that no one that I have seen online uses 3rd person...
Seems everyone switches it to 1st person.
Would be cool if you could destroy the 3rd person camera that pops out of mechs.
1st time I played, I thought it was an enemy drone and tried shooting it down...
Felsparrow
Neo Member
3rd person being a drone camera always sounded fine to me. Yes, even in simulators there are drones, get over it.
That said, I actually haven't played the game in a long time, stopped well before 3rd person was added, so I'd have to see what the implementation of it is.
But for the most part, people always find reasons to be upset.
I think they could have dealt with this via a better in-game HUD that would show not only a better indicator of torso twist and nearby objects, but also whether your guns were obscured from where your crosshair was pointing.
That said, I actually haven't played the game in a long time, stopped well before 3rd person was added, so I'd have to see what the implementation of it is.
But for the most part, people always find reasons to be upset.
I think they could have dealt with this via a better in-game HUD that would show not only a better indicator of torso twist and nearby objects, but also whether your guns were obscured from where your crosshair was pointing.
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