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Media Create 18 - 24 Dec

i look at the the wii as last gen cause its not like the wii controller is better then PS3 or 360 controller

:lol :lol :lol :lol

Alright kid, I feel sorry for you. That's akin to:

"i look at the ps3 as last gen because its not like the controller is any better than the NES's"

Although, perhaps a more fair thing to say is--"better than the ps1s"--in which case, it isn't really--it's slightly worse--no rumble. So, there kid, good job...you've just made a precedent that allows me to tout the "fact" that the PS1 is a newer gen console than the PS3. Congratulations.
 

dirtmonkey37

flinging feces ---->
Any Blue Dragon numbers or Lost Planet numbers? Some other thread talked about how Lost Planet sold about 20K or something, no?

EDIT: And what about the PS3? Is Armored Core 4 on there?
 
yea but PS3 n 360 have next gen graphics so that makes them next gen

Nope, they have HD graphics. Anyway, graphics isn't what makes a machine "next gen". It's the "cycle" that they are released in. If a new video game system were released next year with graphics comparable to the N64, it'd still be considered next gen.

DS vs. PSP--they're in the same generation, even though one has N64esque graphics and one has PS2 graphics, simply because they are from the same cycle.

And even if it WEREN'T based on the cycles, the Wii's controller functionality alone would make it next gen. Even though it's graphics aren't heavily upgraded (but noticeably so), the controller is DEFINITELY next gen. Actually, it's above and beyond.

Even though the Wii doesn't have what the PS3 and 360 have in graphics, it has something more important that neither of them have--and that's the Wii remote.

By your opinion, it may not be better. However, by majority opinion, it is. And even if it weren't so, it's uniqueness still makes it next gen styled.
 

ninja 3

Banned
:lol what ever just imagine if RE4 was made for the N64 instead of the gamecube thats how dated wii graphics are gonna be in 2 or 3 years
 

cvxfreak

Member
ninja 3 said:
:lol what ever just imagine if RE4 was made for the N64 instead of the gamecube thats how dated wii graphics are gonna be in 2 or 3 years

RE4 is still a good looking game after two years. RE3 after six months wasn't
 

Mario

Sidhe / PikPok
nintendorly said:
Although, perhaps a more fair thing to say is--"better than the ps1s"--in which case, it isn't really--it's slightly worse--no rumble. So, there kid, good job...you've just made a precedent that allows me to tout the "fact" that the PS1 is a newer gen console than the PS3. Congratulations.

Probably not wise to use this particular precedent as the PS1 shipped with a controller that had neither rumble nor analog sticks.
 

davepoobond

you can't put a price on sparks
nintendorly said:
Nope, they have HD graphics. Anyway, graphics isn't what makes a machine "next gen". It's the "cycle" that they are released in. If a new video game system were released next year with graphics comparable to the N64, it'd still be considered next gen.

DS vs. PSP--they're in the same generation, even though one has N64esque graphics and one has PS2 graphics, simply because they are from the same cycle.

And even if it WEREN'T based on the cycles, the Wii's controller functionality alone would make it next gen. Even though it's graphics aren't heavily upgraded (but noticeably so), the controller is DEFINITELY next gen. Actually, it's above and beyond.

Even though the Wii doesn't have what the PS3 and 360 have in graphics, it has something more important that neither of them have--and that's the Wii remote.

By your opinion, it may not be better. However, by majority opinion, it is. And even if it weren't so, it's uniqueness still makes it next gen styled.


so which gen is that LeapFrog thing in? guess it must be next-gen since it was released 2 years ago..
 

GaimeGuy

Volunteer Deputy Campaign Director, Obama for America '16
ninja 3 said:
yea but PS3 n 360 have next gen graphics so that makes them next gen
<insert 10-page long video games vs. video games argument here>
 

cvxfreak

Member
Pokemon total: 374,049 / 4,260,672

I think Diamond may outsell Sapphire in the next two weeks. Not sure about Pearl on Ruby though.
 

dirtmonkey37

flinging feces ---->
cvxfreak said:
RE4 is still a good looking game after two years. RE3 after six months wasn't


Yeah, agreed: RE4 is still stunning. I was watching someone play it again on the PS2 at the Metreon today. Amazing game. I need to pop it in again.
 
Yeah... I'm kinda interested in how these past two weeks have been treating it.

Absolute minimum, it should have broken 900K by now.
 

Terrell

Member
cvxfreak said:
PS3s are literally in stock on Amazon Japan right now. :lol
I think, after all the people who said that Amazon.co.jp preorders were an accurate measure of console demand in Japan... can we finally say with absolute certainty that preorder numbers and Famitsu Most Wanted lists are not an accurate way of predicting sales success? After all, PS3 preorders were kicking Nintendo's ass.
 

KINGMOKU

Member
ninja 3 said:
resident evil 4 looks good now but in 1 or 2 years it gonna look very dated
It's going to be nice having you around for the next couple days. A distraction of sorts from the norm.

Kinda bust's up the same arguments for a little while at least, and the same sales seemingly week in, and week out.
 
ninja 3 said:
resident evil 4 looks good now but in 1 or 2 years it gonna look very dated
who gives 2 shits
DS games don't sell for graphics
VC games don't sell for graphics
XBox live games don't sell for graphics.

You are making no sense at all. This is a media create thread not a graphic whore thread. Worldwide game sales and Hardware sales are telling you 'maybe graphics aint quite "AS" important as we thought'
 

KINGMOKU

Member
DefectiveReject said:
who gives 2 shits
DS games don't sell for graphics
VC games don't sell for graphics
XBox live games don't sell for graphics.

You are making no sense at all. This is a media create thread not a graphic whore thread. Worldwide game sales and Hardware sales are telling you 'maybe graphics aint quite "AS" important as we thought'
DR, dont burn him out so quick. Let him do all the work.

Its much more entertaining.
 
ninja 3 said:
:lol what ever just imagine if RE4 was made for the N64 instead of the gamecube thats how dated wii graphics are gonna be in 2 or 3 years
Considering the biggest Wii games worldwide are GameCube port Twilight Princess and the simple-looking Wii Sports and Wii Play, I don't think that's a concern. Hell, with those games as the immediate comparison, I'd say people will notice much more improvement in Wii graphics over the next 2 or 3 years than on X360 and PS3.
 

KINGMOKU

Member
ninja 3 said:
in japan wii is gonna do well but in the states i predict it will be the next dreamcast
Could you expand on why you think it's going to be the next Dreamcast?

You know, I read on the internet that the Wii has better ram then the 360, and the PS3 combined.
 

lyre

Member
ninja 3 said:
in japan wii is gonna do well but in the states i predict it will be the next dreamcast
You're a redundant character you now.

We already have someone doing your schtick, and he's a mod. Create your own gimmick pls.

moku said:
Could you expand on why you think it's going to be the next Dreamcast?
He probably means the Wii is gonna be the next console that all hardcore gamers will love years after it dies!!! *cheers*
 

Jammy

Banned
ninja 3 said:
in japan wii is gonna do well but in the states i predict it will be the next dreamcast

600,000 in eight days, positive press up the wazoo that the Dreamcast could only... well... dream of, and being called the hottest item of 2006 has something to say about that.
 
Jonnyram said:
1. Pokemon Diamond 209,379 / 2,329,227
2. MGS Portable Ops 178,370
3. Pokemon Pearl 164,670 / 1,931,445
4. New SMB 154,107 / 3,771,128
5. Wii Sports 152,756 / 471,229
6. Mana 4 152,062
7. Kirby Squeak Squad 149,350 / 706,984
8. Love & Berry 139,382 / 747,926
9. Wii Play 137,495 / 439,323
10. Jump Ultimate Stars 134,551 / 484,529

nintendomonopoly.jpg
 

ethelred

Member
ninja 3 said:
in japan wii is gonna do well but in the states i predict it will be the next dreamcast

Awesome! The Dreamcast rocks. The Wii could do a lot worse than follow in its footsteps.
 
ninja 3 said:
in japan wii is gonna do well but in the states i predict it will be the next dreamcast

Seeing as its sold more in the USA than it has in Japan so far, what do you base your prediction on?

EDIT

I wonder with the continuing great Nintendo reversal and its obvious link to Iwata, when the guy is gonna get some serious industry ass licking?
Or an industry achievement award?
 
haha only on a forum would you have a kid argue whether a console is "next gen" or not.
I'm happy that japanese gamers are loving wii sports and wii play too, hopefully it will convince some companies to make really innovative games.
*oh and every single sales thread has like 10 "OMG NINTENDO AM 3rd party" jokes withthin. is not really funny anymore yeh?*
 

lyre

Member
High jump boots (Metroid), Shell (Super Mario), Shield (Legend of Zelda), and DK Barrel.

APerfectCircle said:
haha only on a forum would you have a kid argue whether a console is "next gen" or not.
And only on this forum you have a moderator doing that.

*oh and every single sales thread has like 10 "OMG NINTENDO AM 3rd party" jokes withthin. is not really funny anymore yeh?*
So are 'PSP has no games' or the 'nongame' speel but do you see them ending? Until Nintendo is 3rd party or DNF is released, NEVER!
 

KINGMOKU

Member
DefectiveReject said:
Seeing as its sold more in the USA than it has in Japan so far, what do you base your prediction on?
I bet you he thinks its becuase of the waggle gimmick. I for one agree with him.

It had decent sales at launch in the states, but the demand has died down alot. Hell, I saw 5people returning Wii's today at my local Miejer, and all of them said it was becuase they thought the waggle-wand was a gimmick. True story, look it up.
 

dirtmonkey37

flinging feces ---->
I'm glad sales are so great. nothing in the stop 10 is below 130K. Very nice.


I wish there were some more PS3 titles there as well. That would be reassuring that JPN isn't becoming a....heh.

I also wish at BD stayed there longer. That would have been some nice and friendly Japanese support for a nice and friendly Japanese game.
 
dirtmonkey37 said:
I'm glad sales are so great. nothing in the stop 10 is below 130K. Very nice.


I wish there were some more PS3 titles there as well. That would be reassuring that JPN isn't becoming a....heh.

I also wish at BD stayed there longer. That would have been some nice and friendly Japanese support for a nice and friendly Japanese game.
there's not enough PS3 hardware out there for a game to chart that high yet, unless it was a game EVERYONE wanted!
 
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